Society/Culture AI - The SRP Artificial Intelligence Thread

[Cmarsh]

Telstra cutting nearly 10 percent of its workforce largely from AI driven streamlining of services. Boom.

Telstra's 'massive change' has 'blindsided' workers, but will it pay off for customers and shareholders?

Telstra reveals plans to sack up to 2,800 workers as part of its latest cost-cutting measures, with most of these job losses to occur by the end of this year.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Chief]

AI driven streamlining of services

i.e. export the work to poorer countries and pretend it's AI driven.

 

[Cmarsh]

i.e. export the work to poorer countries and pretend it's AI driven.

Except there is nothing in the Telstra example saying thay are exporting the jobs overseas.

 

[Chief]

Except there is nothing in the Telstra example saying thay are exporting the jobs overseas.

Wait for it...

 

[burge13]

Is our government going to be forward thinking enough to tax large companies an AI tax, or efficiency tax? Of course not but its the obvious

Local small business, whatever. Theyre exempt
Woolworths culling service staff and banks getting rid of branches costing 1000s of jobs. Tax them companies out the arse to cover the incoming welfare need

 

[Engimal v3]

That one eatery at Marvel Stadium where you get the food and you simply walk out is actually just 100 people in a room in Bangalore

 

[Captivating]

Telstra cutting nearly 10 percent of its workforce largely from AI driven streamlining of services. Boom.

Telstra's 'massive change' has 'blindsided' workers, but will it pay off for customers and shareholders?

Telstra reveals plans to sack up to 2,800 workers as part of its latest cost-cutting measures, with most of these job losses to occur by the end of this year.

www.abc.net.au

Fair enough. These are the accumulators at Telstra that add no value other than accumulate information from others. These people are at risk across all organisations because AI can accumulate information that already exists faster and cheaper.

 

[Leeda]

Changes everything. I welcome the arrival of our silicon overlords. All hail the machine!!!

Flipping burgers are you...serios issues not yourself and feeling rough and ready...
AI will send us into tha abyss...i know who I am....who are you?

 

[CD Xbow]

Flipping burgers are you...serios issues not yourself and feeling rough and ready...
AI will send us into tha abyss...i know who I am....who are you?

Look at the state of the world. What a mess we have made. Our silicon friends can't do any worse.

 

[Chief]

AI - peaked?

Some papers show the diminishing margin of returns and a point where the next improvement won't be worth the effort to achieve it, if there is even enough training material available.

 

[barreness]

AI - peaked?

Some papers show the diminishing margin of returns and a point where the next improvement won't be worth the effort to achieve it, if there is even enough training material available.

Yep, It was never intelligent to begin with, glorified chatbots or image amalgamators, cool sure

Any company that uses it will just end up with worse services and a lower labour budget, gotta love capital

Some brilliant uses so far in 'AI' targeting of civilians in Israel and schemes like robodebt

 

[Seeds]

Yep, It was never intelligent to begin with, glorified chatbots or image amalgamators, cool sure

Any company that uses it will just end up with worse services and a lower labour budget, gotta love capital

Some brilliant uses so far in 'AI' targeting of civilians in Israel and schemes like robodebt

Capital in the long run improves the living standards of everyone. Capital doesnt create unemployment. It just relocates workers to better uses of our time and pays us higher wages. Without capital 95 percent of us would all be working on farms earning basically nothing like everyone did back before the industrial revolution. so yes. Gotta love capital.

 

[Chief]

It just relocates workers to better uses of our time and pays us higher wages.

Data says different.

 

[Seeds]

Data says different.

No it doesnt. In the era of capital real wages continually grow. Its just expected. That hasnt always been the case.

And you dont even need to make the case overtime. If you were to rank countries based on quality adjusted capital intensity you would find that order would be almost exactly the same as the country ranking of average pre tax real wages.

 

[barreness]

Capital in the long run improves the living standards of everyone. Capital doesnt create unemployment. It just relocates workers to better uses of our time and pays us higher wages. Without capital 95 percent of us would all be working on farms earning basically nothing like everyone did back before the industrial revolution. so yes. Gotta love capital.

The invisible hand is around your throat too seeds, or will be soon enough

Capital in the long run ends up with a couple of trillionaires and a dead planet, it seeks to expand and extract ever more to the detriment of all else. There are no other long term considerations.
This is why it needs to be regulated, shackled, nationalised, and put to use for the '95% of us that would be on farms'

Farm life doesn't sound too bad with some good union representation tbh

 

[Chief]

In the era of capital real wages continually grow.

Whose wages?

 

[Engimal v3]

Copilot and Gemini suck at writing code in comparison to ChatGPT

 

[happy_eagle]

Copilot and Gemini suck at writing code in comparison to ChatGPT

I havent used Copilot for it, but Gemini sucked when I tried that. Will usually just go with ChatGPT if I need some code written.

 

[Seeds]

The invisible hand is around your throat too seeds, or will be soon enough

Capital in the long run ends up with a couple of trillionaires and a dead planet, it seeks to expand and extract ever more to the detriment of all else. There are no other long term considerations.
This is why it needs to be regulated, shackled, nationalised, and put to use for the '95% of us that would be on farms'

Farm life doesn't sound too bad with some good union representation tbh

Have you heard of wealth taxes? Inheritance taxes? Things I strongly advocate for. Private sector creates and runs capital (with government regulation) and then wealth is redistributed through taxes afterwards.

Nationalism tends to lead to gross waste, failure to technologically innovate and either high prices or long queues. Just look at the national broadband roll out. The nationalised nuclear roll out will be even worse.

 

[barreness]

Have you heard of wealth taxes? Inheritance taxes? Things I strongly advocate for. Private sector creates and runs capital (with government regulation) and then wealth is redistributed through taxes afterwards.

Cool, how's that going? oh yeh it's probably the highest inequality in human history, sweet

Nationalism tends to lead to gross waste, failure to technologically innovate and either high prices or long queues. Just look at the national broadband roll out. The nationalised nuclear roll out will be even worse.

If it's a natural monopoly then it should be nationalised, pretty basic economics tbh thought you'd be all over smith and co.

How has privatisation of these natural monopolies gone? oh that's right terrible, profit is extracted, maintenance is skipped, infrastructure is degraded, the consumer pays more

 

[Cmarsh]

Would people consider leasing a humanoid robot to do all their housework for $10 a day?

I think I would.

Humanoid Robots: Here Are The 16 Leading Manufacturers

“If you lease it like you lease a car, a $30,000 car, your price point per month is 300 bucks,” says Diamandis. “That translates to $10 a day and 40 cents an hour."

www.forbes.com

 

[Chief]

Of course it would send a constant stream of data back to the manufacturer.

 

[Cmarsh]

Of course it would send a constant stream of data back to the manufacturer.

Not dissimilar to modern smartphones that everyone uses.

 

[Carringbush2010]

So I've just watched a netflix documentary

'The social dilemma', very disturbing............

Find more info here:

Google Search

The manipulation, you wanna know how I come to deliberately view this? Even though conscious of this manipulation well before I knew of these docos.

Well, on this very social media platform, on another thread, another poster (forget who, apologies) linked a video, also on netflix

'The antisocial network' - a video into the origins of the chans, Qanon, 'anonymous' etc. and their use of platforms to manipulate. Also very disturbing.

More info here:

Google Search

I suggest watching both.

In short 'The social dilemma' basically explains, algorithms and ai and how these work, and how they're engineered to make you 'click' and more disturbingly the why. < Profiteering.

The origins of the why ARE designed to create revenue, more detailed explanations in the doco. The overlap is the antisocial network has used social media as a tool to influence, rightly or wrongly.

Also explained, the original intent has been derailed, this wiki page provides a fair summary.

The Social Dilemma - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We have a roll call of pioneers who are now (or in 2020 - near enough) explaining the existential threat of what essentially they themselves have created.

I could go into detail of the glaring (should be!) epiphany for humanity, but I don't want to create a TLDR.

So, theirs always been manipulators since time immemorial, the difference now are the platforms are allowing much further reach for revenue creating purposes.

To dumb it down.

• Village, a person provides news about the community around the campfire
• The town cryer
• Written print
• TV and radio
• Internet < exponential reach.

Probably best that you all judge for yourselves from digesting the content of these docos............ then again as explained, one's truth will vary from another - because we all will have different opinions, and those opinions are manipulated to suit one's narrative, as designed by algorithm and ai think tank creators.

These same people in these docos now seemingly explaining the existential dangers of their own previous self interests.

 

[Not Important]

worth the time. disregard the clickbait headline.