Andrew Demitrio
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Sure he's a good bloke now, however as soon as he gets the keys to AFL house, he will turn into a horrible ogre that no-one likes.
He is destined for critisism, being laughed at and to be the cause of all AFL evil.
It's a grand timeless AFL tradition which ain't gonna change.
Wayne the pain is dead, long live Andrew I'llGiveThemTheShh!tsToo Demitrio
He is destined for critisism, being laughed at and to be the cause of all AFL evil.
It's a grand timeless AFL tradition which ain't gonna change.
Wayne the pain is dead, long live Andrew I'llGiveThemTheShh!tsToo Demitrio
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Demetriou was actually a damn good player for North Melbourne in the early to mid 80's..... I remember him well as a player.
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I don't have much time for him given his "come clean about the lot and we'll go easy on you" trick.
I don't have much time for him given his "come clean about the lot and we'll go easy on you" trick.
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He also stated that teams have to earn blockbuster games so looks like Carlton and Richmond will not be playing Collingwood and Essendon twice as crowds are down.
Gee this policy wasn't in when Collingwood were down a bit of a hypercritic how do you earn blockbusters these clubs have marketed them for years so now the AFL is going to decide pathetic.
He also stated that teams have to earn blockbuster games so looks like Carlton and Richmond will not be playing Collingwood and Essendon twice as crowds are down.
Gee this policy wasn't in when Collingwood were down a bit of a hypercritic how do you earn blockbusters these clubs have marketed them for years so now the AFL is going to decide pathetic.
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Imagine how much worse it would have been if you didnt come clean and got caught anyway!!
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I don't have much time for him given his "come clean about the lot and we'll go easy on you" trick.
Imagine how much worse it would have been if you didnt come clean and got caught anyway!!
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Fact is even when the pies had the leanest period in their history from 95-2000, we were still drawing crowds that earned the so-called "Blockbuster" tag.
Blues and Tigers drew just over 30-35K the other week didnt they?? Hardly deserving of 2 games a year at the G.
But in saying that, things CAN change very quickly and the AFL wouldnt want to get caughtout by a re-surgence from either or both teams. No matter how bad things are, the big 4 will still draw the big crowds.
Fact is even when the pies had the leanest period in their history from 95-2000, we were still drawing crowds that earned the so-called "Blockbuster" tag.
Blues and Tigers drew just over 30-35K the other week didnt they?? Hardly deserving of 2 games a year at the G.
But in saying that, things CAN change very quickly and the AFL wouldnt want to get caughtout by a re-surgence from either or both teams. No matter how bad things are, the big 4 will still draw the big crowds.
I thought this thread was gonna be a good old "let's take the pss outta Demitrio" - now it's turned into another "Blockbuster" squabble... 
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Mr Ed summed the situation up perfectly. Andy has used dirty politics all the way up, and will more than likely employ them all the way down.
Carlton won't be the only club burnt by him. Self serving ****s don't generally discriminate.
Carlton won't be the only club burnt by him. Self serving ****s don't generally discriminate.
Do any of you know him personally?
How can you debate his character if you don't know the man. I think right now he is the man AFL needss, strong, and determined and not prepared to take crap from the Clubs etc
Looking forward to the ride. Who gets his gig wwill be interesting as Buckley is in with a show. There will be some changes to the AFL executive.
How can you debate his character if you don't know the man. I think right now he is the man AFL needss, strong, and determined and not prepared to take crap from the Clubs etc
Looking forward to the ride. Who gets his gig wwill be interesting as Buckley is in with a show. There will be some changes to the AFL executive.
I have seen and heard him interviewed a lot over the last couple of years. Every single time he has bees spectacularly unimpressive. He has rarely answered a question and always been clumsy on sensitive issues. He also has told blatant lies. I am talking about answers I know are false and reasons that clearly do not stack up. I also do not trust his politics and his use of the media leak. The media leak is standard AFL policy though and has been since Aylett's time at the VFL.
On Monday night I was very surprised. He was actually quite impressive. It was the first time I though he handled himself and the issues well. He can't win me over with one good performance and for all we know the answers may have been pre prepared but I have to admit to being pleasantly surprised for once.
On Monday night I was very surprised. He was actually quite impressive. It was the first time I though he handled himself and the issues well. He can't win me over with one good performance and for all we know the answers may have been pre prepared but I have to admit to being pleasantly surprised for once.
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Opinions are based on the actions of an individual. I don't need to have a cup of tea with John Howard to know he's a f#*wit.
Melbourne is a small town aswell. The degrees of seperation are fine.
Melbourne is a small town aswell. The degrees of seperation are fine.
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And why is that a good thing? The clubs are the lifeblood of the competition... without them and their fan support the AFL has nothing. Now that Carlton aren't worth anything to them through attendances and thus $$$, they completely heck up their future and I mean completely, this team is not going to be good for 10 years at least, if they survive that long.
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I think the AFL did go easy on Carlton. Carlton are in the situation they are in because of their awful recruiting in the last 5 to 10 years. No more chequebook recruiting so they are struggling.
So they have missed out on a couple of first and second round picks.... that penalty shouldn't even be affecting their on field performances yet because they would be only 1st and 2nd year players. Hardly ones you would base your team around. Look at other clubs in the AFL.... Brisbane... Port... etc... their 1st and 2nd round picks haven't been getting regular games yet they are still at the top of the ladder. Carlton only have themselves to blame.... and its just going to get worse.
Originally posted by KnaveyBlue
I don't have much time for him given his "come clean about the lot and we'll go easy on you" trick.
I think the AFL did go easy on Carlton. Carlton are in the situation they are in because of their awful recruiting in the last 5 to 10 years. No more chequebook recruiting so they are struggling.
So they have missed out on a couple of first and second round picks.... that penalty shouldn't even be affecting their on field performances yet because they would be only 1st and 2nd year players. Hardly ones you would base your team around. Look at other clubs in the AFL.... Brisbane... Port... etc... their 1st and 2nd round picks haven't been getting regular games yet they are still at the top of the ladder. Carlton only have themselves to blame.... and its just going to get worse.
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He wasn't the best candidate for the job, he got the job because he already had his foot in the door. I have no respect for butt-kissers. You'll see what a bumbling fool he is when his buddy Jacko leaves the building.
Are you serious, how much ccontrol does one Collingwood Preshave over the whole comp, with inequities in the draw (Pies never go to WA), etc etc . The Clubs should toe the line more.
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No, I can't think of a single club which would like to base its future around Brendon Goddard and Daniel Wells... The priority pick this year is minor compensation, but nothing on the level that those two should amount to.
St Kilda has the likes of those two, multiplied by about 5, who are getting a go... and should be the league's best team over the next decade. Carlton on the other hand, were robbed of this opportunity due to an incompetent board, which clearly did not act in the best interests of the club. So much for equalisation! Carlton serve little to no use to the AFL, and even since those who are responsible are G-A-W-N, and never coming back, surely it could put the club back on its feet. God knows the AFL have done it before.
No, I can't think of a single club which would like to base its future around Brendon Goddard and Daniel Wells... The priority pick this year is minor compensation, but nothing on the level that those two should amount to.
St Kilda has the likes of those two, multiplied by about 5, who are getting a go... and should be the league's best team over the next decade. Carlton on the other hand, were robbed of this opportunity due to an incompetent board, which clearly did not act in the best interests of the club. So much for equalisation! Carlton serve little to no use to the AFL, and even since those who are responsible are G-A-W-N, and never coming back, surely it could put the club back on its feet. God knows the AFL have done it before.
Wake up, AD has been running the show for the last 18 months anyway, Jacko is alwayd conspicuous by his abscence, he's the bumbling fool
Collingwood don't control the draw. They play where the AFL want them to play. The Vic clubs want home games against Colingwood and the AFL schedule them. It suits Collingwood but it isn't because Collingwood dictate anything. Never going to WA is simply wrong anyway. Less than most is correct though. We also play Port in Melbourne less than most too. Do we also dictate that?
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Like Andy D would try to stem Eddie McGuire's influence... that's one of his major sources of income right there - the Collingwood drawcard! Not Collingwood's fault they have a lot of fans that a worth a ****eload of cash to Andy D and co... His problem is, that he doesn't give equal footing to those who aren't worth as much to him, unlike Edward. I don't see anywhere that part of the AFL's equalisation policy is to deliver a fair draw... they only care about the money. Why would they want two Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne clashes? There would be no need for handed-out 'blockbusters' per se with a fair draw, because everyone would play eachother twice... but who cares about fairness when you can take the money and run?
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Obviously some sort of dig at my team so in order to make it worth your while, do you want to explain what the hell it means?
Obviously some sort of dig at my team so in order to make it worth your while, do you want to explain what the hell it means?
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So you think Brendon Goddard and Daniel Wells would be the difference between the Carlton team out there now and the Roos and St Kilda? Of Course they aren't. They are excellent young players but they are still 1st and 2nd year players. Like I said... they will not affect the way Carlton are playing NOW. Maybe in 2 to 3 years they will be the best players at their clubs.
People are saying Carlton are too hardly penalised. What crap. They are crap now because of their previous bad recruiting.... its just that it coincided with a period where they were going to inevitably be on the bottom of the ladder because lets face it..... Bradley, etc... were all cheque book recruits who have now retired. Carlton are in the same position as St Kilda and Fremantle were when they were crap for so many years due to poor recruiting. It has nothing to do with penalties the AFL rightly handed out.
So you think Brendon Goddard and Daniel Wells would be the difference between the Carlton team out there now and the Roos and St Kilda? Of Course they aren't. They are excellent young players but they are still 1st and 2nd year players. Like I said... they will not affect the way Carlton are playing NOW. Maybe in 2 to 3 years they will be the best players at their clubs.
People are saying Carlton are too hardly penalised. What crap. They are crap now because of their previous bad recruiting.... its just that it coincided with a period where they were going to inevitably be on the bottom of the ladder because lets face it..... Bradley, etc... were all cheque book recruits who have now retired. Carlton are in the same position as St Kilda and Fremantle were when they were crap for so many years due to poor recruiting. It has nothing to do with penalties the AFL rightly handed out.
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Chris_Judd, I never posted that Carlton are where they are now due to the penalties. Nobody has. You've gone off on that tangent on your own.
Yes we'd still have finished at the bottom end of the ladder, but at least the rebuilding process would have been in place.
And as for saying we didn't get hit hard enough, that's just pure stupidity. We'll have lost Picks 1, 2, 5, 2 2nd round picks, and enough money in fines to damn near makes us shut up shop. About the only thing more they could do is take this year's priority pick, and every player's first born child.
And Dillo_9, I wouldn't have been too worried about us getting caught if Demetriou hadn't tricked a confession out of us. Paper trails were fat Jack's specialty. The incident that started the whole 'investigation' was Fraser Brown. And they couldn't find a thing, so they made O'Reilly a lucrative offer to squeal. In the end they resorted to trying to have Fraser Brown banned from attending games as they couldn't pin him for receiving money under the table. How petty.
The whole thing was a rushed, bumbling midnight affair to get our picks by the time the draft started the next morning. Have you ever noticed the AFL has never released any details as to what they found? Or how much was apparently paid? And whenever anyone is asked about it their only reply is "They got off light." Notice how they never actually specify how they could have hit us any harder?
Aside from Demetriou's poor handling of the Carlton affair, as others have posted he's fouled up every contract he's touched. The MCC idiocy alone is enough to show he's unfit for the job IMO.
Chris_Judd, I never posted that Carlton are where they are now due to the penalties. Nobody has. You've gone off on that tangent on your own.
Yes we'd still have finished at the bottom end of the ladder, but at least the rebuilding process would have been in place.
And as for saying we didn't get hit hard enough, that's just pure stupidity. We'll have lost Picks 1, 2, 5, 2 2nd round picks, and enough money in fines to damn near makes us shut up shop. About the only thing more they could do is take this year's priority pick, and every player's first born child.
And Dillo_9, I wouldn't have been too worried about us getting caught if Demetriou hadn't tricked a confession out of us. Paper trails were fat Jack's specialty. The incident that started the whole 'investigation' was Fraser Brown. And they couldn't find a thing, so they made O'Reilly a lucrative offer to squeal. In the end they resorted to trying to have Fraser Brown banned from attending games as they couldn't pin him for receiving money under the table. How petty.
The whole thing was a rushed, bumbling midnight affair to get our picks by the time the draft started the next morning. Have you ever noticed the AFL has never released any details as to what they found? Or how much was apparently paid? And whenever anyone is asked about it their only reply is "They got off light." Notice how they never actually specify how they could have hit us any harder?
Aside from Demetriou's poor handling of the Carlton affair, as others have posted he's fouled up every contract he's touched. The MCC idiocy alone is enough to show he's unfit for the job IMO.