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Andy Carrazzo

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Kouta_legend

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Now that we are most likely to pick up murphy, and maybe even 1 0r 2 of these players salopek/bartel/power.
Will carrazzo go back to the back pocket, because id rather carrazzo is reserved a spot in the midfield for the whole game, i hate when he plays in the back pocket its such a waste.
Hes a prolific ballwiner and id love to see him all year in the midfield.

This is our midfield next year:
Kouta, Scotland, Stevens, Simpson,Walker, Bentick, Carrazzo, Camporeale, Chambers (DUD) ,Murphy*,Atleast 1 of Salopek/Bartel/Power*

Dont we have too many midfielders?
 
I think he is more suited to player a half flanker role running out of defence, similar to what Lappin used to do so well. Don't think he is suited in the midfield as we have plenty other up and coming midfielders.
Hes been playing in the back pocket to cover for the fat we lack defenders.
 
Take a look at the midfielder types in the 2005 premiers lineup. They rotate off the bench but also rotate off the flanks. Crouch, Williams, Buchanan, Fixter, Bevan, Ablett, Schneider, J Bolton, Dempster, Fosdike, Kennelly, Kirk, with O'Keefe and Davis also taking the occasional stint there and ex skipper Maxfield missing out but also a midfielder. So most of their side are rotating midfielders. Makes you think. Mind you, they are an exception to the rule that dictates what makes a successful side so we can't go to their extreme.

You can never have too much run and Carlton will be wise to build up a stockpile of these players. Camporeale should be coming off half back and spending time in a forward pocket. His best midfielder days are behind him assuming he is still there next season. Kouta will be eased in wherever he fits best at the time.
 

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Kouta_legend said:
Now that we are most likely to pick up murphy, and maybe even 1 0r 2 of these players salopek/bartel/power.
Will carrazzo go back to the back pocket, because id rather carrazzo is reserved a spot in the midfield for the whole game, i hate when he plays in the back pocket its such a waste.
Hes a prolific ballwiner and id love to see him all year in the midfield.

This is our midfield next year:
Kouta, Scotland, Stevens, Simpson,Walker, Bentick, Carrazzo, Camporeale, Chambers (DUD) ,Murphy*,Atleast 1 of Salopek/Bartel/Power*

Dont we have too many midfielders?

With the likes of Kouta & Campo nearing retirement, we need to get as many quality young midfielders as we can right now. If some of these younger players don't step up in the next two years, we're back to square one in terms of the midfield. The more players we can rotate through the middle with confidence the better.
 
Whilst our midfield could do with another couple of players (Murphy and one of Power/Salopek/Bartel) our main problem is our backline.

Carrazzo would be terrific running off half back and appears to have enough footy smarts to be able to both defend and attack.

We need to start structuring a backline ASAP, Carrazzo next to Thornton @ CHB would be a start.
 
Kouta_legend said:
Now that we are most likely to pick up murphy, and maybe even 1 0r 2 of these players salopek/bartel/power.
Will carrazzo go back to the back pocket, because id rather carrazzo is reserved a spot in the midfield for the whole game, i hate when he plays in the back pocket its such a waste.
Hes a prolific ballwiner and id love to see him all year in the midfield.

This is our midfield next year:
Kouta, Scotland, Stevens, Simpson,Walker, Bentick, Carrazzo, Camporeale, Chambers (DUD) ,Murphy*,Atleast 1 of Salopek/Bartel/Power*

Dont we have too many midfielders?

No, I think you're missing the "quality" component. Salopek is staying too.
 
Kouta_legend said:
Now that we are most likely to pick up murphy, and maybe even 1 0r 2 of these players salopek/bartel/power.
Will carrazzo go back to the back pocket, because id rather carrazzo is reserved a spot in the midfield for the whole game, i hate when he plays in the back pocket its such a waste.
Hes a prolific ballwiner and id love to see him all year in the midfield.

This is our midfield next year:
Kouta, Scotland, Stevens, Simpson,Walker, Bentick, Carrazzo, Camporeale, Chambers (DUD) ,Murphy*,Atleast 1 of Salopek/Bartel/Power*

Dont we have too many midfielders?
you can never have too many midfielders,
most of the players mentioned can play other postions/roles

Kouta key position
Scotland fwd - run with
Stevens fwd
Simpson fwd
Walker fwd - run with
Carrazzo, back - run with
Camporeale fwd - back
Chambers fwd
 
good call bibi01. much easier for midfielders to play elsewhere than it is for forwards and backs to play in the midfield. they will also draw more attention and potentially leave other players more unnoticed.
 
bibi01 said:
you can never have too many midfielders,
most of the players mentioned can play other postions/roles

Kouta key position
Scotland fwd - run with
Stevens fwd
Simpson fwd
Walker fwd - run with
Carrazzo, back - run with
Camporeale fwd - back
Chambers fwd

sorry to be the one to tell you this, but most of the players mentioned can't play at all!

scotland, simpson, walker, campo, chambers.
 
as0l0 said:
sorry to be the one to tell you this, but most of the players mentioned can't play at all!

scotland, simpson, walker, campo, chambers.

Scotland - Agree
Simpson - Strongly disagree
Walker - Give him time
Campo - Bit Harsh (our leading kick getter this year)
Chambers - Agree
 
as0l0 said:
sorry to be the one to tell you this, but most of the players mentioned can't play at all!

scotland, simpson, walker, campo, chambers.

Ur an absolute ****************,
Asif Simpson cant play WAKE UP
 

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Allen's Blues said:
Scotland - Agree
Simpson - Strongly disagree
Walker - Give him time
Campo - Bit Harsh (our leading kick getter this year)
Chambers - Agree

I think we need to look at how Campo gets his kicks, how many his opponents get and how little he contests the one percenters. I dont believe his form warrants a midfield role and perhaps not even a regular game.
 
as0l0 said:
playing a couple of half decent, half games is not enough to 'announce' yourself as a good player.

i hope he does more next year.
But you said he can't play at all. If he can't play at all how did he managed a couple of half decent games?

And Campo, you don't find many All Australians who can't play at all.

Walker is 19 years old and Scotland was probably our best player during the second half of the year after a poor first half.

You are a grade A idiot.
 
gandaal said:
But you said he can't play at all. If he can't play at all how did he managed a couple of half decent games?

And Campo, you don't find many All Australians who can't play at all.

Walker is 19 years old and Scotland was probably our best play during the second half of the year after a poor first half.

You are a grade A idiot.


Scotland is a good solid AFL player. Anyone who thinks he cant play has no idea.
 
Carrazzo should be used as a permanent back pocket and eventually be one of the first selected each week as a BACK POCKET!!!

Look at all the great sides of the modern era, Chris Johnson owns the back pocket.... would have looked good in midfield, but was too valuable back there. Essendon had Gary O'Donnell and Mark Thompson.

Don't fall into the trap of moving defenders into the midfield as they can become lost and be as ineffective as the guy before him.
 
Snoozer said:
Carrazzo should be used as a permanent back pocket and eventually be one of the first selected each week as a BACK POCKET!!!

Look at all the great sides of the modern era, Chris Johnson owns the back pocket.... would have looked good in midfield, but was too valuable back there. Essendon had Gary O'Donnell and Mark Thompson.

Don't fall into the trap of moving defenders into the midfield as they can become lost and be as ineffective as the guy before him.

Agree with that...he is quite strong, has poise under pressure and pretty good skills. Has been most convincing running out of defence from my perspective...when we fill out the midfield with talent he will move to backpocket with guys like McGrath and Teague getting squeezed out.
 

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as0l0 said:
with all these good players it's amazing we didn't win more games?

Are you for real, i'll go easy on you 'cause your new. You obvioulsy didn't get to to many games this year, particularly in the second half of the year. Scotland was one of our better players in the second half of the year, Simpson really kicked on and so did Bentick (to a lesser degree).

Kouta kept going as a ball winning/clearance king and Stevens and Campo were injured for the majority of the year.

Our midfield isn't the problem, its our backline
 
i'm not new, i just don't post much.

anyway, i watched every game from start to end and I didn't see what you saw. in my opinion our midfield is the problem. The ball was taken into our defence without any resistance on a regular basis in almost every game. Our midfield is not only responsible for getting the ball and moving it forward, they are also responsible for making sure the opposition midfield can not move forward.

I don't think that Scotland is a good player. I think at his best he can play a solid game, but his best does not come around very often.

I think Simpson has suffered a major setback because of one simple tackle where he tried to outrun an oponent. I don't remember the game or the tackler, but I remember the look on Simpsons face. He realised that he doesn't have the pace that he thought he had.

Kouta can't continue for much longer, but I am amazed at what he was able to achieve this year.

Campo is past it, but I think he has a future in a back pocket.

Stevens may well have been injured, but so was half of Sydneys team and it didn't slow them down. That's what makes someone a champion.
 
as0l0 said:
I think Simpson has suffered a major setback because of one simple tackle where he tried to outrun an oponent. I don't remember the game or the tackler, but I remember the look on Simpsons face. He realised that he doesn't have the pace that he thought he had.

I know what you are talking about but I think your wrong. Simmo tried to take too many on with his pace and ran into trouble. The look on his face was probably more due to that fact that there was a lack of talk and a lack of forwards presenting themselves(making him have to try and take them on).

This kid shouldnt be discouraged from trying to break the lines and create opportunities. Id prefer to see our kids all doing this then at least the losses would have some excitment in them.

Also carrots in the back pocket is fine, we need players who can create as well as defend. With a more cohesive defense you would see blokes of his ilk leaving opponents on the sly and creating mayhem further up the ground. With our present defense opposition forwards know they dont how to worry about being very accountable. The other thing to remember was Ratten was a back pocket before blossoming late.
 
i think you should open your eyes u idiot walker is nineteen years old and is playin aginsts people twice is size scotland was our best player for the seccond half of the year and simpson is an absolute gun and for the others give them a chance campo has been 1 of carltons greats u idiot mayb u should watch a bit more footy :confused:
 
as0I0 has some good points but others are jus very wrong.
And also its lucky Walker started young because if he was drafted at 19 and he was 21 he would be under heaps of pressure.
The thing thats saving his the most os his ages, i hope next year he kills everyone. I think Xavier Eliis in this years draft will be the same.

Carrazzo is such a gunn i think he is a future player, we should start to rebuild around the likes of Carrazzo, Fisher, Fevola, Waite, Stevens, Walker, Simpson, Bentick, Thornton, Whitnall*, Betts and Others that i may have forgotten.

Add Marc Murphy there aswell
 

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