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HAWTHORN is sizing up another opportunity to tap into the famous Tuck bloodline.

Tucking in: the Hawks can take Travis Tuck with a third-round pick in this year's draft.

Travis Tuck – son of Hawks legend Michael and younger brother of emerging Richmond star Shane – has stamped himself as a genuine father-son candidate.

The Hawks can take the latest Tuck with a third-round pick in this year's draft.

Given Tuck's recent form – including a best-on-ground performance for Dandenong Stingrays on Sunday – the Hawks will come under pressure not to let the chance slip.

Hawthorn overlooked Shane as a father-son before taking him as a rookie. He left after two years, eventually returning to haunt the Hawks as a key Tigers midfielder.

Hawks recruiting manager Gary Buckenara said yesterday the newest Tuck was being watched, but so far from a distance.

"We are closely monitoring his progress. This is the second year we have been looking at him," Buckenara said.

"He is coming along quite nicely. If we feel he is worth a third-round pick, we'll look to talk to his parents Michael and Fay.

"There is potential down the track, but they (the Tuck family) have to agree."

Tuck, 17, has blossomed as a winger/half-back flanker. At 187cm and 75kg, he is a left-footer with the family trait of fearlessly putting his head over the ball.

Dandenong Stingrays regional manager Darren Flanigan said Tuck had developed in recent weeks. "People who have been around the club for a while say Travis is a bit ahead of Shane at the same age," Flanigan said.

"He is tall, strong overhead and has a good motor. His form lately has been a fair bit better."

Like his father and brother, Tuck is seen as a late developer.

"I would see him as a 20-year-old developer. Then again, that's a common trait with 95 per cent of draftees," Buckenara said.

Tuck has already played senior football with Berwick in the Casey Cardinia League, kicking two goals in a recent game.

He will not play in the national under-18 championships because his run-up to the selection trials was dogged by nagging injuries.

Considering his recent form, he will be an unlucky absentee when the under-18 carnival kicks off during the mid-season break.

The timing for the Hawks is impeccable, considering many believe it will not be a blockbuster draft.

Under father-son rules, the Hawks can have exclusive rights to Tuck in the third round, as long as he agrees.

Another positive for the Hawks is the fact that Josh Kennedy, grandson of the great John Kennedy and son of 1980s premiership hero John, does not qualify for the draft until next year.

Kennedy, who many believe is top-10 quality, appears certain to be heading to Glenferrie with a third-round pick in 2006.

If both Tuck and Kennedy had been eligible in the same year, the Hawks would have had to use a second and third-round pick to nab them. It would be considered a gamble to go with two father-sons in the one year.

But the Hawks now have the luxury of continuing the Tuck and Kennedy dynasty with third-round picks in successive years.

Michael Tuck is the all-time AFL games record-holder, playing 426 games for the Hawks from 1972-91.

Shane Tuck was cursed with injury and illness at Glenferrie, but reinvigorated his career with a strong season at West Adelaide in the SANFL in 2003.

The Hawks considered taking Tuck in the 2003 draft, but instead took Matthew Ball at pick 51 and Doug Scott – son of Don – in the following pre-season draft.

Richmond grabbed Tuck with a speculative pick 73 in the 2003 national draft.
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How would it be if Michael says he'd rather have the brothers at the one Club - Richmond.
 
Definitely bring him to Richmond.
 
Tigerland said:
HAWTHORN is sizing up another opportunity to tap into the famous Tuck bloodline.

Tucking in: the Hawks can take Travis Tuck with a third-round pick in this year's draft.

Travis Tuck – son of Hawks legend Michael and younger brother of emerging Richmond star Shane – has stamped himself as a genuine father-son candidate.

The Hawks can take the latest Tuck with a third-round pick in this year's draft.

Given Tuck's recent form – including a best-on-ground performance for Dandenong Stingrays on Sunday – the Hawks will come under pressure not to let the chance slip.

Hawthorn overlooked Shane as a father-son before taking him as a rookie. He left after two years, eventually returning to haunt the Hawks as a key Tigers midfielder.

Hawks recruiting manager Gary Buckenara said yesterday the newest Tuck was being watched, but so far from a distance.

"We are closely monitoring his progress. This is the second year we have been looking at him," Buckenara said.

"He is coming along quite nicely. If we feel he is worth a third-round pick, we'll look to talk to his parents Michael and Fay.

"There is potential down the track, but they (the Tuck family) have to agree."

Tuck, 17, has blossomed as a winger/half-back flanker. At 187cm and 75kg, he is a left-footer with the family trait of fearlessly putting his head over the ball.

Dandenong Stingrays regional manager Darren Flanigan said Tuck had developed in recent weeks. "People who have been around the club for a while say Travis is a bit ahead of Shane at the same age," Flanigan said.

"He is tall, strong overhead and has a good motor. His form lately has been a fair bit better."

Like his father and brother, Tuck is seen as a late developer.

"I would see him as a 20-year-old developer. Then again, that's a common trait with 95 per cent of draftees," Buckenara said.

Tuck has already played senior football with Berwick in the Casey Cardinia League, kicking two goals in a recent game.

He will not play in the national under-18 championships because his run-up to the selection trials was dogged by nagging injuries.

Considering his recent form, he will be an unlucky absentee when the under-18 carnival kicks off during the mid-season break.

The timing for the Hawks is impeccable, considering many believe it will not be a blockbuster draft.

Under father-son rules, the Hawks can have exclusive rights to Tuck in the third round, as long as he agrees.

Another positive for the Hawks is the fact that Josh Kennedy, grandson of the great John Kennedy and son of 1980s premiership hero John, does not qualify for the draft until next year.

Kennedy, who many believe is top-10 quality, appears certain to be heading to Glenferrie with a third-round pick in 2006.

If both Tuck and Kennedy had been eligible in the same year, the Hawks would have had to use a second and third-round pick to nab them. It would be considered a gamble to go with two father-sons in the one year.

But the Hawks now have the luxury of continuing the Tuck and Kennedy dynasty with third-round picks in successive years.

Michael Tuck is the all-time AFL games record-holder, playing 426 games for the Hawks from 1972-91.

Shane Tuck was cursed with injury and illness at Glenferrie, but reinvigorated his career with a strong season at West Adelaide in the SANFL in 2003.

The Hawks considered taking Tuck in the 2003 draft, but instead took Matthew Ball at pick 51 and Doug Scott – son of Don – in the following pre-season draft.

Richmond grabbed Tuck with a speculative pick 73 in the 2003 national draft.
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How would it be if Michael says he'd rather have the brothers at the one Club - Richmond.

Very likely...............not!
 
He'd just love to play alonside his brother wouldnt he????? Although I cant see his dad being like Damir Cloke and send all his siblings to the one club.
 

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Hmmm lets see:

Turn down a Hawthorn deal where his father was made famous, and where it could guarantee staying in Melbourne or risk the draft, in which he could end up at Fremantle or Adelaide....

Lock in A thanks Eddie...
 
Nightwolf_69 said:
Hmmm lets see:

Turn down a Hawthorn deal where his father was made famous, and where it could guarantee staying in Melbourne or risk the draft, in which he could end up at Fremantle or Adelaide....

Lock in A thanks Eddie...
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here

Hawthorn have to decide whether they think he is worth a round 2 pick or not first .
 
3rd round pick IDGAF.

I don't think the Hawks will be swayed by the way Shane's career has gone either, they will base their decision on talent only. If they don't feel he's worth a 3rd round pick, then they won't use the F/S rule, but may well pick him up later in the draft or as a rookie perhaps.

We are in a very similar situation with Kym Monteath, he's playing some good footy at East Freo, but will need to have a good second half of the year to justify being a F/S selection.
 
jezza said:
We are in a very similar situation with Kym Monteath, he's playing some good footy at East Freo, but will need to have a good second half of the year to justify being a F/S selection.

Kym didn't even make the Under 18 WA squad so I'd say he wont be a father-son at this stage. However, if he rapidly improves in 2nd part of season then perhaps it'll be a different story.
 
BalmyArmy said:
Kym didn't even make the Under 18 WA squad so I'd say he wont be a father-son at this stage. However, if he rapidly improves in 2nd part of season then perhaps it'll be a different story.
Would not have to waste a father son on him , will get at the bottom end of the draft without much fuss ( famous last words , see Andrew Krakouer )
 
I don't necessarilyy think the Tigers vs Hawks issue between the Tucks will come to play.

I think Nightwolf is right, brave the draft and maybe turn up at Freo - or guaranteed pick and go to the Hawks.
 
53 players have been trialled for Vic Metro and Travis Tuck is not amongst them. He has played a couple of good games that is all. At this stage he would be rookie-list candidate at best.

The other problem is that he is so light and raw that the club that takes him would be commiting to a 4-year development program. Big gamble.
 
IDGAF said:
Has it always been third round or have they changed it ?

Pretty sure it was 2 nd pick once upon a time

Might have been, I'm not sure. Weaver would know.
 

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BalmyArmy said:
Kym didn't even make the Under 18 WA squad so I'd say he wont be a father-son at this stage. However, if he rapidly improves in 2nd part of season then perhaps it'll be a different story.

No he didn't which was disappointing, he has been featuring in the best players regularly which is a good sign, his recent stats are:

Round 7: 24 disp, 4 marks, 1 goal
Round 9: 18 disp, 5 marks, 2 goals, 1 behind
Round 10: 26 disp, 1 mark, 1 goal, 2 behinds
Round 11: 19 disp, 7 marks, 2 goals

So he is getting amongst it.
 
BalmyArmy said:
Kym didn't even make the Under 18 WA squad so I'd say he wont be a father-son at this stage. However, if he rapidly improves in 2nd part of season then perhaps it'll be a different story.

Even if he does we may not take him F/S. He is an outside HFF type player. With Brown, Krakouer, Meyer, Deledio, Raines, Pettifer, Roach, Tambling, Rodan and Gilmour we are not really in the market for his type. He also lacks leg-speed which is going to count against him.
 
jezza said:
Might have been, I'm not sure. Weaver would know.

The F/S rule changes heaps. It has been a 3rd round pick since 2001.

It now goes backwards. First f/s is 3rd round pick, second is 2nd round pick, third is 1st round pick. Effectively means that no one can take more than three f/s in one draft.
 
Weaver said:
Even if he does we may not take him F/S. He is an outside HFF type player. With Brown, Krakouer, Meyer, Deledio, Raines, Pettifer, Roach, Tambling, Rodan and Gilmour we are not really in the market for his type. He also lacks leg-speed which is going to count against him.

Do you think he could be a rookie list possibility? Given we are finally looking ok financially, we should be able to take on more rookies next year I would hope.
 
Shane Tuck is going to leave Richmond and play at Hawthorn with his brother, by the way Richmond fans, i hope you are prepared to choke in the rest of season 2005. No Brown No Richmond, dont even think about talking about last week, you couldn't even beat West Coast in Melbourne, even with your fowardline which was much stronger than that of the Eagles.

RICHMOND = NO TOP FOUR IN SEASON 2005
 
Allen's Blues said:
Shane Tuck is going to leave Richmond and play at Hawthorn with his brother, by the way Richmond fans, i hope you are prepared to choke in the rest of season 2005. No Brown No Richmond, dont even think about talking about last week, you couldn't even beat West Coast in Melbourne, even with your fowardline which was much stronger than that of the Eagles.

RICHMOND = NO TOP FOUR IN SEASON 2005
Is that Matthew ALLENS BLUES?

Shame you can`t change your nick
 

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Allen's Blues said:
Shane Tuck is going to leave Richmond and play at Hawthorn with his brother, by the way Richmond fans, i hope you are prepared to choke in the rest of season 2005. No Brown No Richmond, dont even think about talking about last week, you couldn't even beat West Coast in Melbourne, even with your fowardline which was much stronger than that of the Eagles.

RICHMOND = NO TOP FOUR IN SEASON 2005

I wanted to say No ***** No Carlton but I couldn't think of a Blues player who was consistently good enough to fill in the blank. BTW Whats the view like from down there?
 
jezza said:
Do you think he could be a rookie list possibility? Given we are finally looking ok financially, we should be able to take on more rookies next year I would hope.

Everything is a possability but I would be suprised. He has some talent but needs a lot more development.
 
Allen's Blues said:
Shane Tuck is going to leave Richmond and play at Hawthorn with his brother, by the way Richmond fans, i hope you are prepared to choke in the rest of season 2005. No Brown No Richmond, dont even think about talking about last week, you couldn't even beat West Coast in Melbourne, even with your fowardline which was much stronger than that of the Eagles.

RICHMOND = NO TOP FOUR IN SEASON 2005

Which position would you rather be in? Ours or yours?
 
Nightwolf_69 said:
Hmmm lets see:

Turn down a Hawthorn deal where his father was made famous, and where it could guarantee staying in Melbourne or risk the draft, in which he could end up at Fremantle or Adelaide....

Lock in A thanks Eddie...

We'll if he proves to be half as good as OUR shane you'll be laughing.
 
Allen's Blues said:
Shane Tuck is going to leave Richmond and play at Hawthorn with his brother, by the way Richmond fans, i hope you are prepared to choke in the rest of season 2005. No Brown No Richmond, dont even think about talking about last week, you couldn't even beat West Coast in Melbourne, even with your fowardline which was much stronger than that of the Eagles.

RICHMOND = NO TOP FOUR IN SEASON 2005

says a supporter from a club with the worst list in the last 5 years. We just had a dud coach last year. Your list is just schyte.
 
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here

Hawthorn have to decide whether they think he is worth a round 2 pick or not first .

Let's hope their judgment is as good as when they decided not to take Shane :D
 

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