Attitude

[Dramoth]

I think that the old Carlton arrogance is starting to re-emerge now.

We have a good list but the attitude is still lacking slightly in the fans.

A few of us are starting to say "We are Carlton, ******** the rest" but there is something else that we can take pride in and I think that the attitude taken by the Millwall fans in England could by quite easily picked up and carried by us... the loyal blues fans, especially after the treatment handed to us by the league itself.

Nobody likes us
Everybody hates us
We dont care...

We are Carlton and we are coming for you all...

And another soccer chant we can use...

Carlton til I die,
I'm Carlton til I die,
I know I am,
I'm sure I am,
I'm Carlton til I die

This year is going to be our confidence building year. The year that we also destroy the confidence of some of our major enemies. If we can upset the opposition, then we have won and our confidence will grow... and if we, the fans, are up for it, then the team will start feeling up for it and in the end, it will keep growing.

 

[roly]

i am carlton to i die and i agree there is a little bit of the arrogance emerging but it does not win football games. when we start winning football games look out the arrogance will triple overnight and f#$$ the rest

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I'm all for showing some humility given our recent past, given the breaches, given the pain we have experienced that has previously been a way of life for some opposition fans. I now want the club to be powerful but smarter in the way it markets itself. Hawthorn market themselves as the family club for example and it works for them. I don't know that we can afford to market ourselves based on arrogance any longer. Market history, market future, market being smarter ... I hope we are not peddling arrogance first and foremost any longer.

 

[HBF]

ODN, I think Jack went along way "positioning" Carlton as the arrogant club that HE wanted us to be. Sure, alot of supporters followed suit (including me), but this comes from years and years of success.

I must say, i'm so sick and tired of going to football matches weeks in, weeks out, and continually losing.

In sure once we start to get some on-field success, that old Carlton arrogance will re-emerge, and i'm not sure the club will have much to do with that at all.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

I think that the old Carlton arrogance is starting to re-emerge now.

We have a good list but the attitude is still lacking slightly in the fans.

A few of us are starting to say "We are Carlton, ******** the rest" but there is something else that we can take pride in and I think that the attitude taken by the Millwall fans in England could by quite easily picked up and carried by us... the loyal blues fans, especially after the treatment handed to us by the league itself.

Nobody likes us
Everybody hates us
We dont care...

We are Carlton and we are coming for you all...

And another soccer chant we can use...

Carlton til I die,
I'm Carlton til I die,
I know I am,
I'm sure I am,
I'm Carlton til I die

This year is going to be our confidence building year. The year that we also destroy the confidence of some of our major enemies. If we can upset the opposition, then we have won and our confidence will grow... and if we, the fans, are up for it, then the team will start feeling up for it and in the end, it will keep growing.

I had to chuckle at this.

I really hope we never end up like those fools.

On one of their forums they were fighting with each other over some guy not punching a copper and causing a riot when they pulled another Milwall fan off a train.

 

[pumped]

I think that confidence and humility is much more needed than arrogance. To my mind I feel like arrogance brought us down.

If we are humble with success and confident in our abilities then we will have long term stability. At the moment we are a weak willed group and it is protection of reputation that is crushing us.

In my opinion we still have far too many egos in the club. Once people have the courage to look at their flaws and fix them the club will start to rise again.

Whilst it was not on the footy field I believe Kouta in dancing with the stars showed a great example. He was very confident but also very humble and in my opinion was inspirational. From a footy perspective I believe at his best he was similarly humble, confident and inspiring.

 

[Dramoth]

I had to chuckle at this.

I really hope we never end up like those fools.

On one of their forums they were fighting with each other over some guy not punching a copper and causing a riot when they pulled another Milwall fan off a train.

Well... we dont have to behave like the idiots from Millwall and cause a riot outside their home ground when they get knocked out of the FA cup a couple of years ago. The idiots destroyed about 5 cars on the isle of dogs when they went nuts.

 

[bluebrew]

I remember flying down from tennant creek in 87 to see the blues play they played fitzroy and were losing by 40 odd points early in the third quarter.
I had had enough of it and stood up in the middle of the cheer squad and yelled out come on carlton this aint good enough.

Next thing you know carlton had kicked the next few goals and ended up winning the game easily.
Same thing happened a week later against the dee's we were 56 down yelled out and they lost by 6 supporters can lift their team without arrogance to believe in my team i would have been silent like the rest of the crowd.

 

[HBF]

I had to chuckle at this.

I really hope we never end up like those fools.

On one of their forums they were fighting with each other over some guy not punching a copper and causing a riot when they pulled another Milwall fan off a train.

Thats pretty funny actually.

 

[btdg]

Arrogance was our downfall. It led us to believe we were right and everyone else was wrong - on player payments, on our home ground, on Elliott, on our failure to build for the future. Arrogance led to everything that has happened in the past 6 years.

And why would we want to be like Millwall? A team that has never won anything? Why not aim to be more like, say, Manchester United or Barcelona - big teams that win a lot, are commercially successful and a marketers dream? Surely thats better than aiming to be a team renowned for poor on-field performance and being a bunch of thugs off the field?

 

[HBF]

Arrogance was our downfall. It led us to believe we were right and everyone else was wrong - on player payments, on our home ground, on Elliott, on our failure to build for the future. Arrogance led to everything that has happened in the past 6 years.

And why would we want to be like Millwall? A team that has never won anything? Why not aim to be more like, say, Manchester United or Barcelona - big teams that win a lot, are commercially successful and a marketers dream? Surely thats better than aiming to be a team renowned for poor on-field performance and being a bunch of thugs off the field?

.....and big Jack was at the forefront of this.
Sure, we can still be arrogant like we once were, but this time we just need to play by the rules, and make good business decisions.