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The answer is nearly 1 trillion chicken nuggets, with complimentary soda, fries and salad with every 24 nuggets. That was around the answer you needed to give. Not some insanely psycho "achktually it's this and this money for every australian over 30 years and this much every week"
Who misses a joke that bad to go full on nerding? Holy hell
Btw I'll take the 1 trillion chicken nuggets thank you very much
Ask the Vietnamese if they think it was a border dispute.
Ask the indians if they think losing 15000 sq miles or 39000 sq kms is a border dispute. Tasmania is just under twice that size btw.
Ask the tibetans if they think it was an intervention.
Ask the 339 dead australians about korea. They were there in an action voted and passed by the united nations.
You glossed over the million plus uighurs in concentration camps for the crime of wanting independence from a country they have nothing in common with. Not ethnically, not linguistically, not genetically.
The reason this is so important is there has been a partisan push by LNP and the media to force Australia into this position. Labor have had to bow to this policy given the media partisanship.
There has been zero discussion in the public discourse on this issue that for a multi decade financially devastating decision - that’s a huge problem.
The US are trying to protect their power in the region and we are paying for it.
How much proof is there actually of this? Is it possible the US have overplayed this to enhance their geopolitical interests?
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Just like a lot of myths about military history, it was a myth that anti war protesters spat on returning soldiers from Vietnam:
The Spitting Image - Wikipedia
Inaccurate recollections of war only serve to increase the likelihood of future ones.
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Xinjiang is a bit of a distraction. These submarines aren't being used to stop any "genocide" happening in Western China.
This is my concern. We are going to be cannon fodder for an imperial US empire.
Btw has anyone checked on Peter Dutton? He must've had a giant erection over this news
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Be a bit more honest. A lot are there for supporting jihadist movements, not all Uyghurs want an independent state (the East Turkestan movement is a tiny minority group), and it just so happens that it's happening in a key region of the nation that if it became independent would cut off the majority of China's population in the East from the Silk Road land trade routes to the East, further boxing the nation in. Obviously some neocons would love for Xinjiang to break off from China for their own geopolitical goals.
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Except he didn't get to announce it. He's probably thinking about what other social welfare they can cut to fund it.
We can also buy 500 million PS5s with the money, everyone gets a PS5
This cannot be overemphasised enough.
Scott Morrison informed this policy to Anthony Albanese (leader of the opposition at the time) 4pm one day and announced it with a joint preset conference with Biden and Johnson the following morning.
That is the "democracy" we are fighting for. * off.
On Albanese - he has a huge problem. If we are going to behave like complete campaigners (China, environment, social issues, etc.) then we might as well have a Liberal government doing it - then at least we don't have to pretend we are not complete campaigners.
I could be completely wrong, there could be information they haven't told the public, but shouldn't the media be pushing for what this is?
We don't need more sweaty players online
I'm with you except for the Korean war, which was a case of the US committing unimaginable war crimes.
They were depopulating the North of the country, via use of incendiary explosives, chemical and biological weapons, in a way few states ever have.
There is a reason the "forgotten war" narrative is pushed so aggressively. Truly behaviour that would have been worthy of the axis powers.
Amnesty international believes it is happening and they are certainly not American puppets.
China: Draconian repression of Muslims in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity
Hundreds of thousands of Muslim minority men and women subjected to mass internment and torture Millions of Muslims subjected to systematized mass surveillance Muslim ethnic groups forced to abandon their religious traditions, cultural practices and local languages More than 50 former camp...
www.amnesty.org
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The subs aren't a bad idea in principle, but in reality it's just a massive waste of money and transfer of wealth from the Australian public, to the US MIC.
Who knows what threats and bribery was used, for a likely terrible deal that won't produce any subs. Just money out the door to UK and US defence contractors.
I'm very very wary of either state maintaining the political stability or productive capacity to deliver. The truth is, we should have stuck with the Japanese subs, way back when. But this really isn't about national security, it is about fleecing taxpayers.
Who knows what threats and bribery was used, for a likely terrible deal that won't produce any subs. Just money out the door to UK and US defence contractors.
I'm very very wary of either state maintaining the political stability or productive capacity to deliver. The truth is, we should have stuck with the Japanese subs, way back when. But this really isn't about national security, it is about fleecing taxpayers.
