Australia v Ireland match?

[passmark]

Hello folks.

With 45 Irish women now in the league could we have Australian rules first real international match?

I know there has been modified Gaelic and Ausssie rules in the men’s but with the number and skill of the Irish women, plus those that haven’t made the journey, could it be a worthwhile endeavour?

 

[Teen Wolf]

Well, we could. And in fact we might, as soon as next year.

Doing it against a full-strength Australian team would be very silly though, because the Irish team would never win a clearance.

That aside, an annual Indigenous All-Stars game should be first priority. Ireland as a potential opponent might make sense, supposing the best Irish players are available.

 

[passmark]

Well, we could. And in fact we might, as soon as next year.

Doing it against a full-strength Australian team would be very silly though, because the Irish team would never win a clearance.

That aside, an annual Indigenous All-Stars game should be first priority. Ireland as a potential opponent might make sense, supposing the best Irish players are available.

You don’t know who the Irish could draft in for an international. There’s be nothing to stop them bringing in a tall athlete from another sport.

The AFLW was built on such practices.

 

[Teen Wolf]

You don’t know who the Irish could draft in for an international. There’s be nothing to stop them bringing in a tall athlete from another sport.

I have a feeling it's not going to be somebody who can compete around stoppage with players like Garner, Prespakis, Riddell, etc. Otherwise they'd already have an AFLW contract.

The AFLW was built on such practices.

It most certainly was not built on drafting players who had never played the game before.

 

[CURVE]

Last night's edition of the W Debrief they were discussing the possibility of an Australia and Ireland game, and these were the theoretical teams selected by Kelli Underwood and Lauren Wood.

‘Mouth-watering’ AFLW fixture option revealed; crowd call looms for league — Talking Points



‘MOUTH-WATERING’: AUSTRALIA VS. IRELAND FIXTURE GAINS MOMENTUM

State of Origin is back for the AFL next February, but for the AFLW, they may just go one step greater than that.

The league’s recent confirmation that women’s representative football will be played in 2026 has sparked curiosity over the finer details of the fixture, such as whether or not the match would be played as state vs. state, or even Australia vs. Ireland.

Some of the AFLW’s best talents hail from the ‘Emerald Isle’, and given their prominent presence league-wide, an exhibition match between the two sides now looms as a genuine possibility.

“Can they play tomorrow? I would love that!” Herald Sun journalist Lauren Wood said on The W Debrief.

“At a Marvel Stadium, completely unhampered by wind or anything, just let these two teams so absolutely hard at it. You know what, I actually wouldn’t put it past the Irish team. These are the players that have taken this competition to the next level.

“I think we can start the campaign here ... I think this would be a huge exhibition event for the game. It would take the game global, and it would be a heck of a contest, wouldn’t it?”

“It’s mouth-watering!” Fox Footy commentator Kelli Underwood added when taking a look at the theoretical sides.

Within the current framework of the AFLW season, any fixture would likely come post-season given the number of Irish players with commitments to their Gaelic football counties back home.

When probed on a preferred time for any clash between the two countries, Hawks star Aileen Gilroy was in favour of seeing the match take place a couple of weeks after the grand final — which currently would align with around mid-December.

“It’s hard to know (when to play)... obviously if we were going to do it, we’d want to do it properly. Maybe towards the end of the season after the All-Australian, after the Grand Final,” Gilroy said. “I would definitely think at the end of the season is where you’d get best.”

 

[passmark]

Looking forward to my cheque from Andrew Dillon.

 

[timokane]

Love to bring back the international series.
Aussies and Ireland.
First game to be played at the MCG.
Best of 3 games.
Play at Croak Park in Dublin.
I miss the international series.
Has to go ahead this idea now.

 

[Sphynx]

I think it would be much much smarter to play this in Ireland first off if they are thinking about it.

The interest over there because of the number of girls coming over has reportedly exploded.

Games are televised etc.

Would really drive home the interest in the womens game over there, Im sure they would turn out given the hiatus that has occurred between the mens version.

They would also be confident of a victory given the relative strength of the girls game.

Getting 40k-50k to Croke Park would ram home the momentum over there imo.

 

[weevil]

I'm a massive sucker for the international games. On paper we would kill them, but you just know the insanity level the Irish girls would bring would be off the charts. We'd be doing well to have all our players still alive by quarter time.

 

[jarrod_island_doggies]

I'm a massive sucker for the international games. On paper we would kill them, but you just know the insanity level the Irish girls would bring would be off the charts. We'd be doing well to have all our players still alive by quarter time.

International Rules we'd kill them? Those are some mighty powerful green and gold tinted sunnies you have on. I think it'd have to be footy; the Gaelic skills and history of women's football in Ireland would suggest the Irish would destroy the Aussie girls at a hybrid game.

I reckon it'd be a fairly likely chance that in a game of footy the Aussie girls would win 7-8 times out of 10, but it would have a higher chance of being a contest.

 

[weevil]

International Rules we'd kill them? Those are some mighty powerful green and gold tinted sunnies you have on. I think it'd have to be footy; the Gaelic skills and history of women's football in Ireland would suggest the Irish would destroy the Aussie girls at a hybrid game.

I reckon it'd be a fairly likely chance that in a game of footy the Aussie girls would win 7-8 times out of 10, but it would have a higher chance of being a contest.

I said international games not rules, taking both into account.

 

[jarrod_island_doggies]

I said international games not rules, taking both into account.

Yeah fair enough soz, I was basing my response on the graphics above

 

[TheTassieHawk]

Speaking of Rep Footy with mens AFL Origin played tonight this article suggests potential women’s sides for WA and the Vics if they played an equivalent fixture

From Fish to Kearney, what AFLW Origin teams would look like

Sarah Black assesses what AFLW Origin teams would look like for Victoria and Western Australia

www.afl.com.au

 

[Teen Wolf]

Picks Sabrina Frederick on the WA bench over Emma Swanson which itself is a joke. But then balances it out on the Big V bench with... Emily Bates?? Not a vaguely comparable player who's actually from Victoria like Brea Harrington, cos that'd be nuts.

Fwiw if Bates could be classified as anything other than a Queenslander, one wonders why Nanscawen, Brazill or numerous Irish players can't be in the WA team.

Annnyway, more to the point: Has anybody noticed how, whenever the dude footballers get to do something*, the media always reports "the AFL are considering the concept for AFLW"? But time and time again, all it results in is a half-arsed hypothetical article by Sarah ****ing Black.

*such as Gather Round, Indigenous All-Stars, State of Origin, International Rules, grand final at a big venue, etc.

 

[Bombdemon]

Just like the AA team there is zero respect for the wing as a specialist position. If you are selecting a team with the view that it would actually play, you have to include wings and not extra mids who can’t do the running defensively. Any actual team for Victoria would have to include Eliza McNamara and Tess Craven

 

[Teen Wolf]

Reports of the league considering a return to women's representative footy date back to at least July 2023. Tonight, newsbreaker extraordinaire Xander McGuire can tell us the league is still considering it.

How can it be so hard, how can it take so long. There are easy open slots during the middle of the men's season:


Could play an Indigenous vs Irish match in Alice Springs as a curtain-raiser to Melb v GWS.




And/or play SA v VIC (the two states home to the most AFLW premierships) in Adelaide, early arvo of the following weekend:

 

[Aardvark]

Garry Lyon and Ebony Marinoff on 360 pushing for Aflw Australia V Ireland during gather round. 50k at Adelaide oval would be spectacular. Make it happen AFL!

 

[Biggie]

Historic first as AFLW gears up for inaugural International Rules fixture mid-year

Some of the best women's talent from Australia and Ireland will square off in at least one fixture on Australian shores in either June or July

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[Teen Wolf]

Reaction to the headline: Nice!

Reaction after reading the whole article: That... isn't international rules. That's Australian rules. ffs.

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The AFL involving the GAA under any circumstance is illogical, even more so if they're using a Sherrin.

And I'll say it (at least) one more time. To think Ireland would be competitive with AFLW rules, even just against Victoria, is to buy into some pretty absurd and hateful rhetoric about the quality of the league.

I wouldn't be surprised if some other unpleasant detail gets thrown into the mix to counter for the assured competitive imbalance, especially if the GAA is in fact involved (for instance, tackling wasn't allowed for the women's IR series in 2006). Oh dear.

 

[jarrod_island_doggies]

Reaction to the headline: Nice!

Reaction after reading the whole article: That... isn't international rules. That's Australian rules. ffs.

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The AFL involving the GAA under any circumstance is illogical, even more so if they're using a Sherrin.

And I'll say it (at least) one more time. To think Ireland would be competitive with AFLW rules, even just against Victoria, is to buy into some pretty absurd and hateful rhetoric about the quality of the league.

I wouldn't be surprised if some other unpleasant detail gets thrown into the mix to counter for the assured competitive imbalance, especially if the GAA is in fact involved (for instance, tackling wasn't allowed for the women's IR series in 2006). Oh dear.

If it was IR the blowout would be 3x more than using AFLW rules. The LGFA has 40 years on the AFLW and if you watch the skills it shows.

 

[Teen Wolf]

If it was IR the blowout would be 3x more than using AFLW rules. The LGFA has 40 years on the AFLW and if you watch the skills it shows.

The IR series back in 2006, wherein the rules were ludicrously lopsided in favour of Ireland, was more competitive than what Victoria did to the Allies team in 2017 with AFLW rules.

An Irish AFLW team would be around the level of Fremantle, who lost a game by 100 points last year to... not Australia, not Victoria, but just another fellow club.

 

[jarrod_island_doggies]

The IR series back in 2006, wherein the rules were ludicrously lopsided in favour of Ireland, was more competitive than what Victoria did to the Allies team in 2017 with AFLW rules.

An Irish AFLW team would be around the level of Fremantle, who lost a game by 100 points last year to... not Australia, not Victoria, but just another fellow club.

Hmm...the first clash was a blowout the likes of which had never been seen before. 134 to 15. Ireland felt bad, offered the Sherrin for the second game and in all likelihood told their All Stars to ease up and not risk injuries in the second game while the Aussie women put in a bigger effort defensively...to still get more than double their score put on them.

With the average rates of scoring (at an estimate) between the codes, the equivalent results would be something like 400 to 48 in the first game and the second (close) game 124 to 58.

 

[jarrod_island_doggies]

Anyway, time will tell. Ultimately international competition is sorely missing and should be welcomed.

I also hope the snowball effect will be down the line more options for an International Cup revival of sorts or - who knows - a tri-series with a PNG (men) or USA (women) in 20-30 years.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Hmm...the first clash was a blowout the likes of which had never been seen before. 134 to 15. Ireland felt bad, offered the Sherrin for the second game and in all likelihood told their All Stars to ease up and not risk injuries in the second game while the Aussie women put in a bigger effort defensively...to still get more than double their score put on them.

With the average rates of scoring (at an estimate) between the codes, the equivalent results would be something like 400 to 48 in the first game and the second (close) game 124 to 58.

You're applying a pro-rata scoring estimate to a non-tackling IR series based on what is usually scored in a men's IR series that has tackling (among other things, like being allowed mark the ball anywhere on the ground). Silly.

 

[jarrod_island_doggies]

You're applying a pro-rata scoring estimate to a non-tackling IR series based on what is usually scored in a men's IR series that has tackling (among other things, like being allowed mark the ball anywhere on the ground). Silly.

I'm just trying to put things in perspective. An 8-0 soccer match is more of a blowout than a 40-18 rugby league game, despite the scores. Of course they are completely different games, but respective fans know a belting when they see it.

Also you don't think 134 is a colossal score for an IR match? Reportedly Cora and co had the cue in the rack from midway through the second too. Silly