Rumour Ben King 2023

[BIGHAWK23]

He will be uncontracted you noobs

The Suns will take what we give them

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Elmer_Judd]

I am not sure to be honest. I think King might already be better than both, at least as a key forward.

Harry won the Coleman by missing 3 more games than his closest rivals/runners up.

And he still has several areas of his game he can improve on (most notably set shots directly in front of goal)

If Ben King actually becomes better than McKay, he will be one helluva footballer and a threat.

 

[ROOTA#6]

Harry won the Coleman by missing 3 more games than his closest rivals/runners up.

And he still has several areas of his game he can improve on (most notably set shots directly in front of goal)

If Ben King actually becomes better than McKay, he will be one helluva footballer and a threat.

McKay kicked less than 60 goals…it’s not even worthy of the Coleman really

 

[Jimmy Willis Jawline]

McKay kicked less than 60 goals…it’s not even worthy of the Coleman really

Oh. Silly me, I thought the Coleman medal went to whoever kicked the most goals.
Which player kicked more?

 

[The_Steadier]

Giants consider drafting mates to counter ‘go home’ factor

The Giants have been made aware that Sandringham Dragons duo Finn Callaghan and Blake Howes, who have shared a tight bond since early childhood, are likely to want to play alongside one another in future.

www.theage.com.au

Giants again demonstrating how infinitely better run they are; despite being lumbered with basically the exact same institutional headwinds as the suns.

It is idiocy for the expansion teams to draft for best available with zero recognition of the reality of their situation:
1. Almost all elite talent comes from interstate.
2. Elite and in demand players can and will go wherever they want regardless of contract or free agent status- and often back home.

The suns continuing to ignore go home factor in their drafting decisions is akin to denying gravity exists.

 

[burge13]

Giants consider drafting mates to counter ‘go home’ factor

The Giants have been made aware that Sandringham Dragons duo Finn Callaghan and Blake Howes, who have shared a tight bond since early childhood, are likely to want to play alongside one another in future.

www.theage.com.au

Giants again demonstrating how infinitely better run they are; despite being lumbered with basically the exact same institutional headwinds as the suns.

It is idiocy for the expansion teams to draft for best available with zero recognition of the reality of their situation:
1. Almost all elite talent comes from interstate.
2. Elite and in demand players can and will go wherever they want regardless of contract or free agent status- and often back home.

The suns continuing to ignore go home factor in their drafting decisions is akin to denying gravity exists.

"So you claim" - Tony Cochrane

 

[juss]

Obviously St.Kilda in the box seat if he wants to play with his brother.

Cant see him having any interest in going to Collingwood or Hawthorn, as they are looking at 5+ year rebuilds. Richmond wont have the space, Melbourne wont have the space.

North and Carlton both have key forwards who are progressing really well.

Essendon the obvious danger. Would the Bulldogs have a look as a long term target alongside Jammara??

Richmond will have the cap space freed from Cotchin, Edwards, Riewoldt and Caddy, so if we don't target him it won't be because lack of cap space.

 

[WillHayward]

Surely the Pies go all in here?

Haven't had a decent tall fwd since Travis Cloke and just freed up a heap of cap space from JDG.

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Giants consider drafting mates to counter ‘go home’ factor

The Giants have been made aware that Sandringham Dragons duo Finn Callaghan and Blake Howes, who have shared a tight bond since early childhood, are likely to want to play alongside one another in future.

www.theage.com.au

Giants again demonstrating how infinitely better run they are; despite being lumbered with basically the exact same institutional headwinds as the suns.

It is idiocy for the expansion teams to draft for best available with zero recognition of the reality of their situation:
1. Almost all elite talent comes from interstate.
2. Elite and in demand players can and will go wherever they want regardless of contract or free agent status- and often back home.

The suns continuing to ignore go home factor in their drafting decisions is akin to denying gravity exists.

Lol what?

2020 Elijah Hollands seems fine.

2019 we drafted Rowell & Anderson, and chosen Sam Flanders from Gippsland who Ben Ainsworth took under his wing. Jeremy Sharp was taken from WA who Wil Powell took under his wing.

2018 Lukoisus and Rankine went to school together, could of chosen Max and Ben yes, what a muck up that was in hindsight.

2017 Wil Powell & Charlie Ballard both interstate players and have signed long term

2016 Ben Ainsworth, Will Brodie & Jack Bowes were all close mates in the academy, Jack Scrimshaw was also in the academy but was a stupid pick.

2015 Callum Ah Chee & Josh Schoenfeld both from WA

The suns have tried to recruit mates, it's just because none of them are proper A Graders so they don't suit your agenda

Will the suns draft Mac Andrew with Mabior Chol there? Most likely

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Harry won the Coleman by missing 3 more games than his closest rivals/runners up.

And he still has several areas of his game he can improve on (most notably set shots directly in front of goal)

If Ben King actually becomes better than McKay, he will be one helluva footballer and a threat.

McKay does get underrated somewhat.

Overlooked.

 

[SnusCG]

Giants consider drafting mates to counter ‘go home’ factor

The Giants have been made aware that Sandringham Dragons duo Finn Callaghan and Blake Howes, who have shared a tight bond since early childhood, are likely to want to play alongside one another in future.

www.theage.com.au

Giants again demonstrating how infinitely better run they are; despite being lumbered with basically the exact same institutional headwinds as the suns.

It is idiocy for the expansion teams to draft for best available with zero recognition of the reality of their situation:
1. Almost all elite talent comes from interstate.
2. Elite and in demand players can and will go wherever they want regardless of contract or free agent status- and often back home.

The suns continuing to ignore go home factor in their drafting decisions is akin to denying gravity exists.

We took Lukosius and Rankine who were school mates and close friends and took King with our 3rd pick in that draft where the other available players left at that pick were Blakey (Sydney Academy), Thomas (North Academy) or Smith (Had a doctor declare him unfit to move interstate).

We are clearly taking the go home factor into consideration, but do you really not see a problem with a competition that says if you're not from Victoria you that you need to draft a highly rated players best friend or brother too if you want him to consider staying?

if anything it highlights how poorly run St Kilda is that they aren't limited by these ridiculous rules interstate clubs have to try and navigate, have open range at the draft without fear of the go-home factor or having to give additional list spots to friends and family of young players and yet they have still only won a single premiership in 130 years.

 

[CheapCharlie]

I don't. Melbourne had clubs chasing after our players for years until we actually made the place somewhere players actually want to play.

Like being located in Melbourne, Victoria?

 

[The_Steadier]

if anything it highlights how poorly run St Kilda is that they aren't limited by these ridiculous rules interstate clubs have to try and navigate, have open range at the draft without fear of the go-home factor or having to give additional list spots to friends and family of young players and yet they have still only won a single premiership in 130 years.

If you knew anything about football you'd know ~100 of those years were spent in an amateur competition where the rich clubs bought premierships at will via zone tampering and brown paper bags.

We've done pretty well since it became a professional, national sport.
Sure we haven't snagged that next flag yet, but we've been up there right in the mix more than most clubs in the last 30 years.

Your whining about the systemic problems you face are small potatoes given you have been spoon fed the best onfield talent in the country since inception and handed facilities, staff and a stadium for nothing.

Your 'club' wouldn't last a day standing on its own two feet- mine has for over a century.

 

[SnusCG]

If you knew anything about football you'd know ~100 of those years were spent in an amateur competition where the rich clubs bought premierships at will via zone tampering and brown paper bags.

We've done pretty well since it became a professional, national sport.
Sure we haven't snagged that next flag yet, but we've been up there right in the mix more than most clubs in the last 30 years.

Your whining about the systemic problems you face are small potatoes given you have been spoon fed the best onfield talent in the country since inception and handed facilities, staff and a stadium for nothing.

Your 'club' wouldn't last a day standing on its own two feet- mine has for over a century.

If you're considering 1987 as the year the AFL became a professional sport your club has won 0 premierships and 3 wooden spoons in that period. Being the only VFL team to have not won a premiership in the modern era isn't 'doing well'.

We currently have 14 first round picks on our list compared to 13 on St Kilda's list so it's hardly being handed the best onfield talent. The only reason we seem to always be prominent at the draft is compensation we get for losing players to the 'go-home factor'.

We also trained out of tin sheds for the first 8 years of our existence and our stadium was paid for by the Queensland government, which if I recall we pay more to rent the use of than any other club in the AFL does for a home ground. We also only got it 'for free' because our training base became the hub of the commonwealth games, it had nothing to do with AFL favouritism.

You also don't have a leg to stand on re. AFL handouts and distribution and you're totally wrong about your club being able to stand on it's own two feet. in 2020 your club received the second most financial handouts from the AFL (16.8M) only marginally behind us (17.2M) - More even than GWS or Brisbane. 2016 you received the most AFL distribution of any club including us and you currently have one of the highest debts of any club in the AFL including the suns. St Kilda has proved even after 100+ years to be financially unviable in an AFL dominant market, which is significantly worse for the AFL than a club in a non-AFL dominant market struggling financially during its infancy.

theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-business-model-is-starting-to-turn-st-kilda-ceo-20210313-p57afu.html

"Saints received $16.8 million through AFL distributions in 2020, placing them second behind only Gold Coast ($17.2 million) on the club distributions table in the recently released AFL Annual Report, which saw the Giants receive $15.9 million and the next Victorian club, the Western Bulldogs receive $13.9 million."

Rating every AFL club's viability during shutdown crisis

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" the reality is the Saints have been struggling financially for years and have depended heavily on AFL handouts. Last year, they received $20.6 million from the league, which was the most of any Victorian club."

No more excuses: Saints pay off $3m, now about that flag drought...

Saints chiefs Matt Finnis and Andrew Bassat declare the recent spate of drought-breaking premierships hasn't increased the pressure on the club

www.afl.com.au

"Club CEO Matt Finnis said when accounts were finalised for the 2021 AFL season, the Saints would be able to take their overall debt to less than $10 million."

 

[Taylor Moss]

If you're considering 1987 as the year the AFL became a professional sport your club has won 0 premierships and 3 wooden spoons. Being the only VFL team to have not won a premiership in the modern era isn't 'doing well'.

We currently have 14 first round picks on our list compared to 13 on St Kilda's list so it's hardly being handed the best onfield talent. The only reason we seem to always be prominent at the draft is compensation we get for losing players to the 'go-home factor'.

We also trained out of tin sheds for the first 8 years of our existence and our stadium is paid for by the Queensland government, which if I recall we pay more to rent than any other club in the AFL for a home ground. We also only got it 'for free' because our training base became of the commonwealth games, it had nothing to do with AFL favouritism.

You also don't have a leg to stand on re. AFL handouts and distribution and you're totally wrong about your club being able to stand on it's own two feet. in 2020 your club received the second most financial handouts from the AFL (16.8M) only marginally behind us (17.2M) - More even than GWS or Brisbane. 2016 you received the most AFL distribution of any club including us and you currently have one of the highest debts of any club in the AFL including the suns.

theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-business-model-is-starting-to-turn-st-kilda-ceo-20210313-p57afu.html

"Saints received $16.8 million through AFL distributions in 2020, placing them second behind only Gold Coast ($17.2 million) on the club distributions table in the recently released AFL Annual Report, which saw the Giants receive $15.9 million and the next Victorian club, the Western Bulldogs receive $13.9 million."

Rating every AFL club's viability during shutdown crisis

Healthy, battling or on the breadline: Every AFL club's chances of surviving shutdown

www.foxsports.com.au

" the reality is the Saints have been struggling financially for years and have depended heavily on AFL handouts. Last year, they received $20.6 million from the league, which was the most of any Victorian club."

No more excuses: Saints pay off $3m, now about that flag drought...

Saints chiefs Matt Finnis and Andrew Bassat declare the recent spate of drought-breaking premierships hasn't increased the pressure on the club

www.afl.com.au

"Club CEO Matt Finnis said when accounts were finalised for the 2021 AFL season, the Saints would be able to take their overall debt to less than $10 million."

Hot. Damn.

Well done you. Hit them outta the park.

 

[KingCoasters]

Word is he very likely to re-sign early next year

 

[Mat Mann]

* me how a thread on Ben King

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Ben King

Age

23

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

becomes an attack on the StKilda FC. small petty minds.

I hope we get him, oh no wait, only the bigger clubs are allowed to poach good players from other clubs.....

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Keep the potshots coming plebs

Saints future looks brilliantly bright with our debt coming down, an amazing facility in RSEA Park and a young squad most of you opposition shitecans would absolutely die for

It's gunna fun watching you all cry into your beers over the next 50 years

 

[Deadly Darcy]

If the suns had a coah who didn’t eat the entire Macca’s menu In one sitting it would help. Bloody unprofessional when you are trying to get senior athletes to listen to you. The Greenwood affair might be the last nail in this coffin if Ben was wavering as well. AFL house needs to step in and shake this club by the bloody neck. #sacktony

 

[Taylor Moss]

fu** me how a thread on Ben King becomes an attack on the StKilda FC. small petty minds.

I hope we get him, oh no wait, only the bigger clubs are allowed to poach good players from other clubs.....

I would say because of the entitlement of some of yours fans.

Also; after being the driving force in rejecting Port’s application to the comp in the 1890’s, I’m quite chuffed you’ve been a basket case and a horrible organisation throughout history.

 

[Down at K Park]

If you're considering 1987 as the year the AFL became a professional sport your club has won 0 premierships and 3 wooden spoons in that period. Being the only VFL team to have not won a premiership in the modern era isn't 'doing well'.

We currently have 14 first round picks on our list compared to 13 on St Kilda's list so it's hardly being handed the best onfield talent. The only reason we seem to always be prominent at the draft is compensation we get for losing players to the 'go-home factor'.

We also trained out of tin sheds for the first 8 years of our existence and our stadium was paid for by the Queensland government, which if I recall we pay more to rent the use of than any other club in the AFL does for a home ground. We also only got it 'for free' because our training base became the hub of the commonwealth games, it had nothing to do with AFL favouritism.

You also don't have a leg to stand on re. AFL handouts and distribution and you're totally wrong about your club being able to stand on it's own two feet. in 2020 your club received the second most financial handouts from the AFL (16.8M) only marginally behind us (17.2M) - More even than GWS or Brisbane. 2016 you received the most AFL distribution of any club including us and you currently have one of the highest debts of any club in the AFL including the suns. St Kilda has proved even after 100+ years to be financially unviable in an AFL dominant market, which is significantly worse for the AFL than a club in a non-AFL dominant market struggling financially during its infancy.

theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-business-model-is-starting-to-turn-st-kilda-ceo-20210313-p57afu.html

"Saints received $16.8 million through AFL distributions in 2020, placing them second behind only Gold Coast ($17.2 million) on the club distributions table in the recently released AFL Annual Report, which saw the Giants receive $15.9 million and the next Victorian club, the Western Bulldogs receive $13.9 million."

Rating every AFL club's viability during shutdown crisis

Healthy, battling or on the breadline: Every AFL club's chances of surviving shutdown

www.foxsports.com.au

" the reality is the Saints have been struggling financially for years and have depended heavily on AFL handouts. Last year, they received $20.6 million from the league, which was the most of any Victorian club."

No more excuses: Saints pay off $3m, now about that flag drought...

Saints chiefs Matt Finnis and Andrew Bassat declare the recent spate of drought-breaking premierships hasn't increased the pressure on the club

www.afl.com.au

"Club CEO Matt Finnis said when accounts were finalised for the 2021 AFL season, the Saints would be able to take their overall debt to less than $10 million."

Cripple fight.

 

[Taylor Moss]

If the suns had a coah who didn’t eat the entire Macca’s menu In one sitting it would help. Bloody unprofessional when you are trying to get senior athletes to listen to you. The Greenwood affair might be the last nail in this coffin if Ben was wavering as well. AFL house needs to step in and shake this club by the bloody neck. #sacktony

Yes, a coach that is violent towards AFL media is a far better approach.

 

[freddy mercury]

Suns should apologize for drafting him and let him walk from that train wreck.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Yes, a coach that is violent towards AFL media is a far better approach.

Bevo? The blokes a pussycat. You telling me you wouldn’t want to throat Purple if you got the chance? Biggest flog in the media landscape and there are plenty out there. Regardless, how do you do a skinfolds test on the players who had a loose offseason when you’ve been eating double-quarterpounders for breakfast? Someone needs to make him officeshare with the club dietician….

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

Dodoro would probably offer a 2nd rnd pick for him.

And then carry on about how unreasonable GC are to deal with.