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Boofa Maxfield

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IDGAF said:
Come on Weaver , your letting emotions get in the way of logic here .LMAOO

You're reading too much into the word 'walked'.

IDGAF said:
I know who made the right decision and who made a gross error in judgement

Personally I didn't mind the decision at all. Maxfield was not nearly as good for us as people would like to pretend he was. He was completely one-way, great with the footy in his hands but no interest whatsoever in his opponent.

Worth remembering that going into 1996 season we had just added Joel Bowden and Damien Ryan via the draft. Had Wayne Campbell, Nathan Bower, Michael Gale and Jason Torney so we were pretty well covered for wing types (by our standards of the time). Naish, Daffy, Powell up forward. Mereda, Free, Knights, Bond in the middle. Prescott, Kellaway, Rogers down back. Had just played finals with those midfielders.

On the other hand out key defenders were Paul Bulluss, John Howat, David Bourke and Scott Turner. No suprise that we did something to get someone in alongside Turner.
 
Weaver said:
You're reading too much into the word 'walked'.



Personally I didn't mind the decision at all. Maxfield was not nearly as good for us as people would like to pretend he was. He was completely one-way, great with the footy in his hands but no interest whatsoever in his opponent.

Worth remembering that going into 1996 season we had just added Joel Bowden and Damien Ryan via the draft. Had Wayne Campbell, Nathan Bower, Michael Gale and Jason Torney so we were pretty well covered for wing types (by our standards of the time). Naish, Daffy, Powell up forward. Mereda, Free, Knights, Bond in the middle. Prescott, Kellaway, Rogers down back. Had just played finals with those midfielders.

On the other hand out key defenders were Paul Bulluss, John Howat, David Bourke and Scott Turner. No suprise that we did something to get someone in alongside Turner.
Fair enough ... but aint hindsight a magical thing :p
 
Weaver said:
On the other hand out key defenders were Paul Bulluss, John Howat, David Bourke and Scott Turner. No suprise that we did something to get someone in alongside Turner.

While I feel your underselling the value in boofa's ability, I will concede that Gas was bloody good for us and was instrumental in our performance in 2001...but it wasnt exactly a trade..it just happened that way ..out went Boof, In came Gas..
 
Weaver said:
You're reading too much into the word 'walked'.



Personally I didn't mind the decision at all. Maxfield was not nearly as good for us as people would like to pretend he was. He was completely one-way, great with the footy in his hands but no interest whatsoever in his opponent.

Worth remembering that going into 1996 season we had just added Joel Bowden and Damien Ryan via the draft. Had Wayne Campbell, Nathan Bower, Michael Gale and Jason Torney so we were pretty well covered for wing types (by our standards of the time). Naish, Daffy, Powell up forward. Mereda, Free, Knights, Bond in the middle. Prescott, Kellaway, Rogers down back. Had just played finals with those midfielders.

On the other hand out key defenders were Paul Bulluss, John Howat, David Bourke and Scott Turner. No suprise that we did something to get someone in alongside Turner.


:) AGREE entirely. Was surplus to our needs at the time. We were well off for midfielders - Knights, Bondy, Campbell, Free, Merenda, Rogers when required and D. Kellaway in a negating role. IDGAF is right in saying hindsight is a magical thing, but no evidence to suggest he would have surpassed the likes of Knights, Bond, Broderick, Campbell etc. And you have to remember that Maxfield landed in Sydney at a pretty good time. The Swans were able to lure the likes of Lockett, Schwass and later Hall and had a pretty damn good side. Would Stuey have made us all that much better, I doubt not! 90% of AFL supporters would probably not remember the Richmond portion of Maxfield's career, which probbaly suggests he wasn't all that intergral to our line-up. Personally, at the time, I would have taken Bond over Maxfield. His departure to Freo was the one that gutted me.:)
 

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Goldust said:
IDGAF is right in saying hindsight is a magical thing, but no evidence to suggest he would have surpassed the likes of Knights, Bond, Broderick, Campbell etc.

Football also changed. Back in Northey-coached 95 the ability to play on and beat a man was very important. Fast forward 10 years and not too many midfielders go man-on-man. Someone like Maxfield who could break free and kick well was probably more valuable at the end of his career than at the start.

Conversely football has gotten harder and harder for Gaspar. When he came to us the idea of backmen who couldn't kick or run was commonplace. I mean we had Gaspar, D.Kellaway, Bulluss, Prescott, Rogers.

When they changed the rules to clamp down on defenders who fell on the ball or dragged it in to force ball-ups it made things much tougher for Gaspar and Kellaway. Every year that has gone by has seen Gaspar's type fall inch by inch out of fashion.

Goldust said:
Personally, at the time, I would have taken Bond over Maxfield. His departure to Freo was the one that gutted me.:)

Unfortunately we couldn't legislate for Justin Charles getting hurt, then 'suspended'. By the 1997 draft we knew we wouldn't have Charles in 98 and that he might not ever play again. Made the move for Ottens a bit more necessary than otherwise.
 
Bojangles17 said:
While I feel your underselling the value in boofa's ability, I will concede that Gas was bloody good for us and was instrumental in our performance in 2001...but it wasnt exactly a trade..it just happened that way ..out went Boof, In came Gas..

I made that point originally. Probably also true that if we had have contracted Maxfield we wouldn't have had the money for Gaspar. So in some sense it was an either / or decision.
 
Bojangles17 said:
It may have been at RFC it certainly wasn't amongst any of the sides that were consistently any good:confused:


:) AT the end of the day, Gaspar has had a pretty fine career at Tigerland. Sure the kicking skills were never quite there, but compensated by being a good mark and containing some pretty good forwards. Don't think you can overlook some of the wins he has had in battles against the likes of Chris Grant, Carey, Lloyd, Brown etc. Has a couple of All-Australian guernseys to show for that!!!

I guess the thing that drags peoples' opinions of him down is the fact he has always been very well compensated....read over-compensated. But if a club is willing to pay that price, I for one to do not blame the man. He gets what the market at the time says he commands and he has milked the sytem beautifully.

I for one feel he needs to do the Kellaway-type thing and give us one more season at a substantially reduced rate. Richmond has been good to Darren Gaspar, but wouldn't say we haven't got anything in return.:)
 
Bojangles17 said:
It may have been at RFC it certainly wasn't amongst any of the sides that were consistently any good:confused:

I was referring to 1996-7 when he came to us. Back then there were plenty of teams where kicking in the backline didn't mean much. Every year since it became more and more important and Gaspar became more and more exposed.

Big part of the problems at Richmond was that we missed the boat in seeing how football was changing. We were one the last teams with specialist HBFers (Kellway, Prescott, Tape), defenders who couldn't kick etc. At the other end we were one the last with slow, specialist small forwards (Naish, Daffy, Nicholls).
 
CharlieG said:
You got Gaspar who cost us a #1 pick. For nothing. Other clubs got Rocca, Grant, Heuskes and a dozen others. On top of that, Melbourne clubs poached all our senior talent from the late eighties as well.

The early nineties wasn't a one-way street, mate.


You sold all your players in the last 80's, Capper being a prime example.

You got Schwass for Grant, Mark orchard and Ben Wilson for Rocca they were genuine trades, yes lost Hueskes to Port for nothing.

It may not have been a one-way street but you guys got more than you lost, a lot better than other interstate teams.
 
The day Boofa left Punt Rd was sad and totally unexpected. I wonder what made him go, he was Under 19 captain and played some great seasons.

Those were the days after Northey left. Geez that was a big mistake to lose Swooper and get Walls instead. That 1995 was the start of something great which was quicky extinguished by typical Tigers mismanagement. Those mistakes cost us 10 years.
 

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