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Brett Deledio

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Its amusing seeing ppl continually say things like being wasted off a HBF.


Goddard and Hodge are 2 of the best players in the game and have been in the system longer than deledio. Both these guys have played MANY seasons and most of their football off HB setting up their respective sides. Both are gun midfielders as well in their own rights but still spend more time off HB - are these guys "being wasted" too? lol
 
the HB line is ground zero of modern game, its the springboard for attack...think how well a team will go with a couple of nuff nuffs patrolling the HB line...well said that it is no coincidence that Goddard and Hodge regularly play there. With connors, lids and Newy back there we have the necessary silk to build a legit unit
 
Deledio = superman

started playing afl at 17 yoa. Has had no injurys bar a knee injury vs Geelong I think. Was sposed to miss 7 weeks and only missed one. His games played stats at this of his Football life would be 2nd to none.

He can play a bit too.
 
deledio not only stops the opposition but also creates so much off a hbf, but if we can have him doing what goddard does, that would be most beneficial to us. of course we cant allow a player such freedom at present, as the rest of the team isnt solid enough just yet.
 

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moving lids to HB was one of our biggest masterstrokes. Newman and Lids are our 2 best kicks and thats where i'd plonk them too.
 
For those who think Lids will do better in midfield once Cotchin and Martin improve and demand tags, I think it's a little more complex than that. Our midfield need to work better as a unit to help one another shake tags ie setting blocks etc around stoppages. Deledio (if/when in midfield), Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Jackson, Tuck etc should all be doing this for one another - that is how elite midfields (St Kilda, Collingwood, Geelong) operate and how they become elite. It's not all about burning off opponents though this would be an important element also. The two approaches compliment one another. Easier to burn off a tagger whose spent a lot of his afternoon running into hard blocks.
 
I've said it once and I'll say it again. I go to bed each night praying with all I've got that Deledio in the next 2 years morphs into Brendan Goddard.
 
paulvroc said:
I've said it once and I'll say it again. I go to bed each night praying with all I've got that Deledio in the next 2 years morphs into Brendan Goddard.
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For that to happen lids needs to get some C*** into him he is just not aggresive enough !

Fantastic player ............. champion potential but needs more mongrel in him.
 
Seems like everyone has forgotten just how good Deledio was as a midfielder under Rawlings, he was a dominant midfielder for those games and looked to have finally worked out how to deal with a tag. It was comfortably the best football he has played in his entire career. His tackling was up, he kicked goals and really took the game on, dare I say he looked Judd like at times.

Last year he was effective as a HBF, no where near as damaging as when he had good games as a midfielder and over the last 5 weeks was very effectively tagged by several teams. After Geelong were beaten by Adelaide in a large part because they shut down their HB line from rebounding the forward tag really took off and Deledio copped it and had no answer for it. The problem with him on a HBF is that there is no real answer to a hard forward tag, you have to remain accountable and do not have the freedom to run a man into the ground or setup blocking at clearances.

I certainly think Deledio is at his best as a midfielder. I'd love to see him in there with Martin and Cotchin as that would be the makings of a very elite midfield full of class. The value of an elite ball user that kicks goals in the midfield is just immeasurable, as a HBF he is really not a lot better than Newman.
 
WoGiTaLiA said:
Seems like everyone has forgotten just how good Deledio was as a midfielder under Rawlings, he was a dominant midfielder for those games and looked to have finally worked out how to deal with a tag. It was comfortably the best football he has played in his entire career. His tackling was up, he kicked goals and really took the game on, dare I say he looked Judd like at times.

Last year he was effective as a HBF, no where near as damaging as when he had good games as a midfielder and over the last 5 weeks was very effectively tagged by several teams. After Geelong were beaten by Adelaide in a large part because they shut down their HB line from rebounding the forward tag really took off and Deledio copped it and had no answer for it. The problem with him on a HBF is that there is no real answer to a hard forward tag, you have to remain accountable and do not have the freedom to run a man into the ground or setup blocking at clearances.

I certainly think Deledio is at his best as a midfielder. I'd love to see him in there with Martin and Cotchin as that would be the makings of a very elite midfield full of class. The value of an elite ball user that kicks goals in the midfield is just immeasurable, as a HBF he is really not a lot better than Newman.
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Very well said my friend. Especially the point on his goal kicking ability when playing as a midfielder. Very valuable.
 
WoGiTaLiA said:
Seems like everyone has forgotten just how good Deledio was as a midfielder under Rawlings, he was a dominant midfielder for those games and looked to have finally worked out how to deal with a tag. It was comfortably the best football he has played in his entire career. His tackling was up, he kicked goals and really took the game on, dare I say he looked Judd like at times.

Last year he was effective as a HBF, no where near as damaging as when he had good games as a midfielder and over the last 5 weeks was very effectively tagged by several teams. After Geelong were beaten by Adelaide in a large part because they shut down their HB line from rebounding the forward tag really took off and Deledio copped it and had no answer for it. The problem with him on a HBF is that there is no real answer to a hard forward tag, you have to remain accountable and do not have the freedom to run a man into the ground or setup blocking at clearances.

I certainly think Deledio is at his best as a midfielder. I'd love to see him in there with Martin and Cotchin as that would be the makings of a very elite midfield full of class. The value of an elite ball user that kicks goals in the midfield is just immeasurable, as a HBF he is really not a lot better than Newman.
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^ This. If Lids can perform at the level or even above of what he did under Rawlings he could easily be top 5 in the league no doubt.
 
WoGiTaLiA said:
Seems like everyone has forgotten just how good Deledio was as a midfielder under Rawlings, he was a dominant midfielder for those games and looked to have finally worked out how to deal with a tag. It was comfortably the best football he has played in his entire career. His tackling was up, he kicked goals and really took the game on, dare I say he looked Judd like at times.

Last year he was effective as a HBF, no where near as damaging as when he had good games as a midfielder and over the last 5 weeks was very effectively tagged by several teams. After Geelong were beaten by Adelaide in a large part because they shut down their HB line from rebounding the forward tag really took off and Deledio copped it and had no answer for it. The problem with him on a HBF is that there is no real answer to a hard forward tag, you have to remain accountable and do not have the freedom to run a man into the ground or setup blocking at clearances.

I certainly think Deledio is at his best as a midfielder. I'd love to see him in there with Martin and Cotchin as that would be the makings of a very elite midfield full of class. The value of an elite ball user that kicks goals in the midfield is just immeasurable, as a HBF he is really not a lot better than Newman.
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Impressive insight into the RFC from a poster from another club! Thanks.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dimma's ultimate plan is to use Lids more as a weapon in the Goddard mould once we have a back half which can both defend as well as initiate offense. Against the Pies and the Blues in NAB 1 (and I know it was our under 19's out there) we just couldn't get it past the half way point after the first half against the blues. Until the young blokes can play these roles effectively Lids almost has to play back.
 

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It will be interesting to see how Dimma uses Deledio, Connors, Newman & Batchelor over the next 2 years, even Conca as well. Obviously it will take a couple of years for Batchelor & Conca to be running out full games, but 4 or 5 doesn't go into 2 HBF spots, so I hope Lids is the one who either gets moved into the guts, or perhaps out on the wing so he gets forward a bit more.
 
:)I’D seriously like to see him play as a forward. Think he has the potential to boot 50 plus goals a season as a forward, but we need to develop another skilled and class half back to initiate the move. He’s playing where he is because that’s where he’s needed most. That’ll change in time.
 
Personally I think we had no other choice than to play Lids on a half back flank last season because we needed some quality across our back line because of the amount of ball that we had to deal with. So we therefore needed another quality ball user across half back to help newy out. If anyone can remember the game when Lids kicked 5 playing up forward against the pies in 07 i think it was. I believe that Lids best position is playing in the midfield and floating forward to kicked valuable goals. He has the ability to be a great goal kicking midfielder in the future. He has an exceptional leap and is lightening quick as we all know. He is a nightmare match-up for the opposition. They have to take Jack, Taylor, Griffiths/Vickery which leaves Lids with the fourth best defender. I trust that Dimma will play Lids the position that suits him and the team best.
 
Goldust said:
:)I’D seriously like to see him play as a forward. Think he has the potential to boot 50 plus goals a season as a forward, but we need to develop another skilled and class half back to initiate the move. He’s playing where he is because that’s where he’s needed most. That’ll change in time.
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I'm with you Goldy, even named him there for my Rd 1 line up (even though I know it won't happen). With Jack firing up front, Lids would be a sensational foil. Can never have too much class in the forward line.
 
Alot of people are getting delidio's best position mixed up with delidio's best position in the richmond current line up.

Possibly now & next year perhaps he is more required across half back but for arguments sake if lids was playing for say stkilda,collingwood,bulldogs or hawthorn where would he be the most dangerous !

Goal kicking mid/hf similar type of role to james hird played imo
 

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I think lids' defensive work is weak and is obviously far more valuable in the midfield another area the coaching staff needs to address.
 
As soon as our side becomes competitive on a regular basis it will be exciting to see where he will play. Right now his value is at its highest at HBF as we try and define our footy team ethos..... hopefully this year will see a number of young players we hope will make it, stamp themselves as career afl players. We need 6-7 to show they will at least be long term B graders
 
tigerfansince86 said:
I think lids' defensive work is weak and is obviously far more valuable in the midfield another area the coaching staff needs to address.
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which is exactly why playing down back is fantastic for his development as a player. Cant afford to have downhill skiers playing midfield - you get smashed the other way and the defence is under the hammer from a free wheeling attacking midfielder. The difference between top and bottom sides isnt just personel in defence - its defensive qualities of the midfield something we have always been disgraceful at
 
tigerT said:
which is exactly why playing down back is fantastic for his development as a player. Cant afford to have downhill skiers playing midfield - you get smashed the other way and the defence is under the hammer from a free wheeling attacking midfielder. The difference between top and bottom sides isnt just personel in defence - its defensive qualities of the midfield something we have always been disgraceful at
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So you are saying lids is a downhill skier then ! :rolleyes:
 
tigerfansince86 said:
I think lids' defensive work is weak and is obviously far more valuable in the midfield another area the coaching staff needs to address.
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Thats one of your more sedate posts. You've let me down. ;)

The whole team needs to be defensive the opposition team is moving it forward, and that goes for the forward line. Last year it was impressive to see JR improve in this area significantly. I don't really see Lids as weak in defensive work, more a bit lazy. While i like him playing of HB, and doing the chop-out, and play as more of a loose man, i do wonder if we are pandering to his ability (or non-ability) to play a hard tag, shake a hard tag, or be directly accountable.
 

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