Brock McLean

[Viney]

Wallace Slams AFL for tanking

What a dick head. Says in the first instance he never under-performed as coach (yeah right......) and then later says during the Tigers / st Kilda game he felt compromised. The game where he famoulsy made no positional changes in the last five minutes, knowing full well Richmond would get steam rolled. THAT is blatant tanking as far as I'm concerned.

I also very much doubt the players were ever told to under perform, they would've been out there busting a gut week in week out

I wouldn't be in a hurry to bet on that.

So I suppose we'll see an investigation into West Coast's "experimentation" (and no, I'm not referring to the drugs) and putting key players out for minor surgery mid way through the season when it could've waited until years end?

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Your club will be standing beside us and four others if this blows up...

At least seven others mate, don't forget about that

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

So I suppose we'll see an investigation into West Coast's "experimentation" (and no, I'm not referring to the drugs) and putting key players out for minor surgery mid way through the season when it could've waited until year's end?

One can only hope, Comrade!

Eagles fans always have a hard time remembering anything about 2010 though, of course...

West Coast coach John Worsfold has defended the right of clubs to experiment with their players in different positions once their chances of making the finals are over.

Worsfold said his club, which recruited impressive forward Jack Darling with its own priority draft pick (No.26 overall) last year, had experimented with players' positions as a development tool, not to deliberately lose games.

The Eagles won just four games last year, collecting their first ever wooden spoon.

"We didn't complain, we didn't whinge about the fact we weren't getting pick one last year. We dealt with what we had in front of us."

http://www.afl.com.au/newsviews/dev...isplay/tabid/13144/newsid/120121/default.aspx

 

[Super Demon]

At least seven others mate, don't forget about that

My mistake

Even more reason as to why Turtle will be the one to wear this.

He should have waited till he retired before coming up with this tripe.

Very poor judgement on his behalf.

I bet Carlton have had more than just a "quiet word" to him behind the scenes to express their displeasure at his comments to the media.

 

[TheBoss]

I take it you don't know much about how the law operates.

I am suggesting that Turtle may have damaged branding etc, and potentially caused unspecified damages.
A bit of saber rattling might be in order is all I suggest.

From here on out, refer to me as TheBoss LLM

Please explain to me how the law works

 

[TheBoss]

So you're not a football club member. You don't care if or how we are punished. And you believe our players aren't trying.

Can I ask why you bother posting on our board?? It might be best for all if you move on and find an interest that doesn't sicken you.[/quote]

Former member and "Foundation Hero".

When I decided not to renew, I sent a strongly worded letter to then president Jim Stynes outlining my reasons. I never received the courtesy of a response. This was after myself and wife being members for over 15 years and all our kids were signed up at birth and tens of thousands of dollars wasted on charitable donations which are still yet to contribute to a winning season.

I can accept barracking for a losing team. If the team was genuinely trying their best and still losing then you need to wear it. But it was clear that MFC was trying to lose games with all their "experimenting". The sad thing is that some members supported it! Go back and read Demonland threads from circa 2009, users were already discussing which player to take with the priority selection prior to round 15.

 

[Super Demon]

Patrick Smith and Greg Denham are going to be awfully disappointed when all their posturing for penalties and sanctions against the club come to naught.

 

[Spirit of 39]

When I decided not to renew, I sent a strongly worded letter to then president Jim Stynes outlining my reasons. I never received the courtesy of a response. This was after myself and wife being members for over 15 years and all our kids were signed up at birth and tens of thousands of dollars wasted on charitable donations which I am still yet to contribute to a winning season.

I can accept barracking for a losing team. If the team was genuinely trying their best and still losing then you need to wear it. But it was clear that MFC was trying to lose games with all their "experimenting". The sad thing is that some members supported it! Go back and read Demonland threads from circa 2009, users were already discussing which player to take with the priority selection prior to round 15.[/quote]

Blah, blah, blah. All I read is "It has/is tough being a MFC supporter and I don't want to dig deep and support my club when the chips are down".

My question from my last post to you stands. If having Melbourne as the club on your sig provides you with such a miserable existence, why do you continue to post here?? Your constant negativity towards the club does nobody any good.

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

You know what........considering a Carlton player started this, I would piss myself laughing if only Carlton get found guilty.

 

[Moody Blue]

The AFL is a joke and they really need to stop drinking their own bath water.They bring in a law which seemed good at the time and it produced unintended conequences. Put your hand up and admit you made a mistake and move on AFL.The Kreuzer cup was the best example or had Demetriou forgotten about that match? Everyone knew and now Demetriou is pretending it never happened? The AFL should worry about why crowds are seriously in decline and the ever increasing gap between the top and bottom teams which effectively ends the season for 6 teams by Round 7.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Blah, blah, blah. All I read is "It has/is tough being a MFC supporter and I don't want to dig deep and support my club when the chips are down".

My question from my last post to you stands. If having Melbourne as the club on your sig provides you with such a miserable existence, why do you continue to post here?? Your constant negativity towards the club does nobody any good.

Damn right mate.

His actions here represent the exact opposite of what we stand for as Demons supporters. WE are the club. Anyone who turns on the club is turning on us. That's how it is.

And the only way we lift ourselves back up the ladder is through the same committed, determined effort and passion we've always shown as supporters and members of the club, pushing forward as hard as we can.

We are on a straight line and we will not deviate. Anyone who doesn't want to be on that line with us can G&GF.

 

[Captain Jack]

We are on a straight line and we will not deviate. Anyone who doesn't want to be on that line with us can G&GF.

Haha love it. Topical.

 

[Viney]

Damn right mate.

His actions here represent the exact opposite of what we stand for as Demons supporters. WE are the club. Anyone who turns on the club is turning on us. That's how it is.

And the only way we lift ourselves back up the ladder is through the same committed, determined effort and passion we've always shown as supporters and members of the club, pushing forward as hard as we can.

We are on a straight line and we will not deviate. Anyone who doesn't want to be on that line with us can G&GF.

Or **** off to Carlton

 

[TheBoss]

Damn right mate.

His actions here represent the exact opposite of what we stand for as Demons supporters. WE are the club. Anyone who turns on the club is turning on us. That's how it is.

So you stand for purposely losing games to give yourself an unfair advantage on draft day?

Take emotion out of it for one moment, and consider this hypothetical scenario:

You invested $1000 into a business. The company decides that it doesn't want to perform at 100% capacity and relies on government bailouts to stay viable. Twelve months later you have seen no return on your investment, and the company sends you a letter trying to raise more capital. Would you send another cheque?

I see football club memberships being no different. I pay my money and I want to see the club give 100% effort, with the return on investment being the club actually winning a few games. I had a light bulb moment after I had sent a cheque to contribute to Debt Demolition that I thought why am I giving all this money to a team that is actively trying to lose?!?

Maybe as a MFC I am asking too much to just simply want to barrack for a team that gives a genuine effort each week.

 

[Spirit of 39]

So you stand for purposely losing games to give yourself an unfair advantage on draft day?

Take emotion out of it for one moment, and consider this hypothetical scenario:

You invested $1000 into a business. The company decides that it doesn't want to perform at 100% capacity and relies on government bailouts to stay viable. Twelve months later you have seen no return on your investment, and the company sends you a letter trying to raise more capital. Would you send another cheque?

I see football club memberships being no different. I pay my money and I want to see the club give 100% effort, with the return on investment being the club actually winning a few games. I had a light bulb moment after I had sent a cheque to contribute to Debt Demolition that I thought why am I giving all this money to a team that is actively trying to lose?!?

Maybe as a MFC I am asking too much to just simply want to barrack for a team that gives a genuine effort each week.

We all understand where you're coming from. We don't agree with your sentiment, but to each their own. What we don't understand is why you keep coming back to this board with a negative attitude, and a propensity to kick the club at every opportunity???? We'd love to have you back on board. But if you're not one of us, move along and let the supporters support.

 

[Super Demon]

So you stand for purposely losing games to give yourself an unfair advantage on draft day?

Take emotion out of it for one moment, and consider this hypothetical scenario:

You invested $1000 into a business. The company decides that it doesn't want to perform at 100% capacity and relies on government bailouts to stay viable. Twelve months later you have seen no return on your investment, and the company sends you a letter trying to raise more capital. Would you send another cheque?

I see football club memberships being no different. I pay my money and I want to see the club give 100% effort, with the return on investment being the club actually winning a few games. I had a light bulb moment after I had sent a cheque to contribute to Debt Demolition that I thought why am I giving all this money to a team that is actively trying to lose?!?

Maybe as a MFC I am asking too much to just simply want to barrack for a team that gives a genuine effort each week.

So take your sad and sorry point of view elsewhere

You've had you're fifteen minutes of fame

No one is forcing you to stay

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Amen Comrades.

The foot is coming down.

The foot has spoken.

 

[Viney]

So you stand for purposely losing games to give yourself an unfair advantage on draft day?

Take emotion out of it for one moment, and consider this hypothetical scenario:

You invested $1000 into a business. The company decides that it doesn't want to perform at 100% capacity and relies on government bailouts to stay viable. Twelve months later you have seen no return on your investment, and the company sends you a letter trying to raise more capital. Would you send another cheque?

I see football club memberships being no different. I pay my money and I want to see the club give 100% effort, with the return on investment being the club actually winning a few games. I had a light bulb moment after I had sent a cheque to contribute to Debt Demolition that I thought why am I giving all this money to a team that is actively trying to lose?!?

Maybe as a MFC I am asking too much to just simply want to barrack for a team that gives a genuine effort each week.

The players gave their all week in and week out

The was perhaps 1 or 2 games where there was "experimentation" (most noticeably the Richmond game which we almost bloody won)

MFC is not a business mate, take that out of the equation. It's a passion. And you support them no matter what, except in your case.

You've made the decision to drop them, so feel free to vacate the premises. Or are you going to come back when the tide changes and we're winning games?

Fair weather.......

 

[mrmonkey]

Why not look at Collingwoods season home in 05 why we're at it?
Collingwood L L W L L L L L W W W L L W L L L L L L L L
losing last 8 games of the seasonbut Thomas and Pendlebury are worth it.
Then the AFL decided to change the rules so you have to be crap for over 2 seasons.

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

Why not look at Collingwoods season home in 05 why we're at it?
Collingwood L L W L L L L L W W W L L W L L L L L L L L
losing last 8 games of the seasonbut Thomas and Pendlebury are worth it.
Then the AFL decided to change the rules so you have to be crap for over 2 seasons.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/did-collingwood-tank-its-way-to-a-flag/story-fnelctok-1226440468746

The most dubious of all was a late-season game against North Melbourne.
Collingwood led by three goals 26 minutes into the final term of the match. It looked over, but a win would have robbed the Pies of that priority pick.
There was no sense of numbers behind the ball for a desperate lockdown. The Pies seemed to be giving up on the last four goals of the game.
The Magpies defended the decision to not flood the backline and protect the lead in the final minutes, declaring the young players would have learned nothing from being thrown en masse behind the ball.
The Pies were trumpeting the message that blooding future players was more important than wins and losses.
A week later, Nathan Buckley spent an unusual amount of time at full-forward as Carlton booted nine goals in a row after halftime to storm to victory.
Carlton was bottom of the ladder, yet the Pies allowed NINE goals in a row.
The media was on to it back then and the bookies smelled a rat.
Carlton started the game as favourite.