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Hey i beleive that bryce gibbs will not be anywhere near as good as murphy. They say he hasnt got that much speed just skill where as murphy has got both, i really hope that gibbs is as good as him due to all the rumours saying he is one of the best things to eva come out of a draft. Can anyone confirm that he will be better than murphy or was he better than murphy when murphy was in the draft?:)
 

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give the kid a go.

why shoot down our own?:thumbsd:

imo Gibbs will play a different role to Murphy because of his lack of leg speed. Prob more of a HBF or fwd of the wing, either way he will be a talent.

Murphy isn't lightning quick anyway but it's his poise and confidence with the ball that makes him so impressive imo
 
You can't exactly tell who will be better when one has played half a season of afl and the other has never played.

And please improve the spelling, it's painful to read.
 
Heff said:
give the kid a go.

why shoot down our own?:thumbsd:

imo Gibbs will play a different role to Murphy because of his lack of leg speed. Prob more of a HBF or fwd of the wing, either way he will be a talent.
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No. 1 pick for a slow flanker???
 
why are people so obsessed with gibbs 'lack of pace'.

firstly, he ran the 20 metre sprint in around 3.01 seconds (not slow)

more importantly, the best 3 on ballers in the last 10 years (hird voss buckley) didnt become superstars because of their pace.

gibbs looks/ most likely will be a super player, which renders it unjust to claim that carlton shouldnt take him because of his pace
 
JavaBlue said:
No. 1 pick for a slow flanker???
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not what i mean

he has the body size to be more agressive and dangerous running the ball from defence imo, and the smarts to use it.

picture Goddard but with tallent. lol

not saying he's slow either but when leuy's running the 20m in practically the same time there has to be some kind of question mark??????????
 
Firstly

Just allow yourself to believe that whatever Wayne Hughes selects is the best option for Carlton.

Secondly

When we use the terminology "lack of leg speed" we need to ask ourselves how much ? lack of leg speed are we talking about, and from draft camp results it appears nothing that the human eye could really detect, so in essence he doesn't really lack leg speed.

Thirdly

If you comibine leg speed with a big wind tank (stamina) it doesn't really matter, because in essence if a player can continue running they don't take off from a stationary position to often.

Therefore lag of speed can be negated by never really slowing down.

I think the first point is the one we should think about, Wayne Hughes is arguably in the top three recruiters in the country, and he has landed us some good kids in the last 12 months (murphy, Kennedy, Bower etc).

In his time at Fremantle he landed them some good kids as well.
 
The 20m sprint should not be used to judge how quick players are on a football field. Football speed is a combination of a high level of awareness, the abilty to move laterally and explosiveness over the first 3 steps. This manifests itself in a player's abilty to move through congested areas, side step tacklers, and react the quickest when a ball hits the deck. Over the years many ruckmen have tested well over the 20m because they can generate speed with big strides towards the end of the test, this doesn't mean they have the explosiveness to play in the midfield. Daniel Merret from the Lions is reported to be the quickest player at the club over short sprints; he may have been able to beat Aka in a straight line with the predictability of a starters gun, but have a ball spill from a contest and change its trajectory and I know who I'd back to pick it up and get the clearance.

The best test is to watch the player play, Gibbs rarely gets run down and he often finds the ball first; he's never going to burn players off like Lovett, Davey or Judd do, but he's aware of that and it's not a part of his game. He'll break lines with 50m passes to advantage and lightning quick hands in close
 

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HugeBluesFan said:
Have a look at Nathan Buckley, the guy everyone is comparing Gibbs to when Nathan was the same age. Now Buckley isn't slow, but he aint that quick either.
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Buckley is alot faster then most people think IMO but i agree look at Hird. Looks quite slow while running but then he seems to get the ball then have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of it. Brains are alot more important then speed.

Also i was just wondering if anybody knows Hansens 20m sprint time? i've had a look around but can't seem to find it.
 
Kenneth said:
Can anyone confirm that he will be better than murphy or was he better than murphy when murphy was in the draft?:)
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Nobody can confirm he will be better than Murphy. Give him a chance, leg speed isn't everything. Composure and being able to think under pressure is what seperates the great from the good moreso than legspeed alone.
 
smithos said:
The 20m sprint should not be used to judge how quick players are on a football field. Football speed is a combination of a high level of awareness, the abilty to move laterally and explosiveness over the first 3 steps. This manifests itself in a player's abilty to move through congested areas, side step tacklers, and react the quickest when a ball hits the deck. Over the years many ruckmen have tested well over the 20m because they can generate speed with big strides towards the end of the test, this doesn't mean they have the explosiveness to play in the midfield. Daniel Merret from the Lions is reported to be the quickest player at the club over short sprints; he may have been able to beat Aka in a straight line with the predictability of a starters gun, but have a ball spill from a contest and change its trajectory and I know who I'd back to pick it up and get the clearance.

The best test is to watch the player play, Gibbs rarely gets run down and he often finds the ball first; he's never going to burn players off like Lovett, Davey or Judd do, but he's aware of that and it's not a part of his game. He'll break lines with 50m passes to advantage and lightning quick hands in close
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Good post smithos, there's a lot more to running in a footy game than doing a 20m sprint.
 
I would say at the same age he is definitely better. Murphy's first AFL year was going great guns till he got injured, was just starting to hit some good form. Bit hard to gauge, Murphy has speed and skill perhaps his kicks can be a tad floppy occasionally, Gibbs will barely ever miss a kick and does things James Hird does, so much time, poise and sums up everything in 1/10th of the time it takes most players to.

In the long term both will turn out as exceptional players. Nothing to worry about.
 
If any of use go out and buy the "Inside Football" paper and go to the middle section about the draft, you will immediately begin to "froth" from the mouth. Each kid in the draft has a segment about them, with gibbs' longer than any other kid. It is qouted exactly as "has a great ability to read the game, great awareness, makes right decisions, great evasiveness, always keeps feet and can take a mark." Although not overly fast and not a run and carry player, his fast brain will rise him above the other players. Never fear the speed factor, as their is no match for brains and class. Like murphy they are not run and carry players liek walker and simpson. Bu the ability to put the ball on the "******" every time can never be matched
 
Thunderstruck said:
I would say at the same age he is definitely better. Murphy's first AFL year was going great guns till he got injured, was just starting to hit some good form. Bit hard to gauge, Murphy has speed and skill perhaps his kicks can be a tad floppy occasionally, Gibbs will barely ever miss a kick and does things James Hird does, so much time, poise and sums up everything in 1/10th of the time it takes most players to.
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completely agree with that assessment.
 

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Go_Blueboyzzz said:
Although not overly fast and not a run and carry player, his fast brain will rise him above the other players. Never fear the speed factor, as their is no match for brains and class. Like murphy they are not run and carry players liek walker and simpson. Bu the ability to put the ball on the "******" every time can never be matched
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The ability to nail long passes is more important than run & carry. A kick travels faster than anyone can run.

It's nice to have both though.
 
Word around the traps is that WH has finally settled on his number 1 and might even let the prospective player's family know soon enough.

You don't need to go too far from this thread to realise who I am talking about :D

Welcome to Carlton.......:)

Note: This is still a rumour at this stage obviously but an extremely strong one.
 
Hu$$ey said:
Word around the traps is that WH has finally settled on his number 1 and might even let the prospective player's family know soon enough.

You don't need to go too far from this thread to realise who I am talking about :D

Welcome to Carlton.......:)

Note: This is still a rumour at this stage obviously but an extremely strong one.
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Have heard this as well today, rest easy boys and girls Carlton will select Gibbs with pick 1............

Repeat after me Murphy and Gibbs............let the good times roll
 

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