Carlton Recruiting Manager

[HappyHawk]

How much confidence do you guys have considering the amount of duds you have wasted in top 10 picks. I think Kruezer could be great, but Rucks are ALWAYS speculative. Dean Cox was a rookie. Having said that I would have picked him.

How much confidence do you have in your selection committee. Is it time for a change. Have you guys considered poaching Pelchin?

 

[BluesRules]

I'm not a Hughes fan. Picking Kreuzer, Gibbs and Murphy isn't rocket science.

The problem is his lack of ability to select the right players in the late rounds. Saying that, I think he did very well picking up Browne at 36.

 

[LennyLeonard]

How much confidence do you guys have considering the amount of duds you have wasted in top 10 picks. I think Kruezer could be great, but Rucks are ALWAYS speculative. Dean Cox was a rookie. Having said that I would have picked him.

How much confidence do you have in your selection committee. Is it time for a change. Have you guys considered poaching Pelchin?

If we were to poach anyone it would be Hine from Collingwood. It is time for Hawthorn supporters to get their hands off it.
Murphy
Gibbs
Walker
All duds?

 

[marcmurphy3]

I certainly haven't been impressed with some of Wayne Hughes selections over the years but it is a bit hard to judge him on the last couple because they haven't really had time to delvelop yet. Some are looking pretty good from those years though.

I also think that 03 or 04 (bad draft for Hughes) were his first with Carlton so he isn't responsible for those early disasters.

Overall I certainly don't think Hughes is one of the best in the bussiness but certainly not one of the worst.

With regards to pick 1 this year, I was hoping for Cotchin, but am still very happy with Kreuzer and think he will be a great player. In saying that you can't really judge a recruiter based on 1st picks because they are guarantees anyway.

 

[XXX KINGS]

How much confidence do you guys have considering the amount of duds you have wasted in top 10 picks. I think Kruezer could be great, but Rucks are ALWAYS speculative. Dean Cox was a rookie. Having said that I would have picked him.

How much confidence do you have in your selection committee. Is it time for a change. Have you guys considered poaching Pelchin?

The only top ten pick Wayne Hughes has made that has question marks over him is Jordan Russell. Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Walker are all good players, Josh Kennedy will be a good player for West Coast.

Most people saw Kreuzer as being worthy of no.1 selection.

You're an idiot.

 

[AlecDuncan]

How much confidence do you guys have considering the amount of duds you have wasted in top 10 picks.

The only wasted top 10 picks we've made were from before 2001, and yes, we know all about them. No duds since 2000, so I wonder how much you know about the topic.

How much confidence do you have in your selection committee. Is it time for a change. Have you guys considered poaching Pelchin?

Plenty. No. Never.

 

[marcmurphy3]

If we were to poach anyone it would be Hine from Collingwood. It is time for Hawthorn supporters to get their hands off it.
Murphy
Gibbs
Walker
All duds?

You can't judge Hughes based on those selections. I could have picked Murphy and Gibbs while Walker isn't quite there yet.

 

[XXX KINGS]

You can't judge Hughes based on those selections. I could have picked Murphy and Gibbs while Walker isn't quite there yet.

That is what the thread starter did though.

I am very happy with Bower, Grigg, Hampson, Austin and Anderson and am also very happy with Michael Jamison. All of these guys could/should become good players in the AFL, I don't see that as a bad assortment of players who we have taken with more speculative picks.

 

[parrot]

How much confidence do you.....

I am confident this will happen over the next few years...

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Thinly veiled troll given the duds call and then the Pelchin call knowing Carlton supporters views on him. Then there is your main board opinions regarding Carlton and Pratt. I doubt you have a sincere interest at all.

I recommend you don't revisit.

 

[OZBomb]

How much confidence do you have in Chris Pelchen? I mean, given he just picked a bloke who looked like Darren Jarman 3 months ago.

And while we're at it, how confident are you that your players aren't tripping balls during the off-season? Where'd they go on the end of season trip, Ibiza?

Don't concern yourself with our team...

 

[Blue Dawn]

How much confidence do you have in Chris Pelchen? I mean, given he just picked a bloke who looked like Darren Jarman 3 months ago.

And while we're at it, how confident are you that your players aren't tripping balls during the off-season? Where'd they go on the end of season trip, Ibiza?

Don't concern yourself with our team...

Took the words right out of my mouth. Piss off and 'rack 'em up' with the boys you tosspot!

 

[borissey]

How much confidence do you guys have considering the amount of duds you have wasted in top 10 picks. I think Kruezer could be great, but Rucks are ALWAYS speculative. Dean Cox was a rookie. Having said that I would have picked him.

How much confidence do you have in your selection committee. Is it time for a change. Have you guys considered poaching Pelchin?

So the central theme of your post is to say that rucks are always speculative and that Dean Cox was a Rookie so therefore we should just recruit rucks through the Rookie Draft?

Clearly a Moron.

 

[HappyHawk]

Thinly veiled troll given the duds call and then the Pelchin call knowing Carlton supporters views on him. Then there is your main board opinions regarding Carlton and Pratt. I doubt you have a sincere interest at all.

I recommend you don't revisit.

Oh come come now old boy. Don't be like that. Pratt is a topic that everyone is passionate about. I can see why you guys want his money - who wouldn't. If you look at the Hawk's board, you will see I blasted Kennett and his mouthing about club's financially struggling. So you see, I do put my money where my mouth is.

You are wrong and right. I do want an opinion from the blues brothers regarding your recruiting manager. Murphy and Kruzer are no brainers. Gibbs, the jury's out; Walker not a pick 1; Livingstone we all know a wasted pick 4 and Kennedy I believe is highly doubtful (too lumbering and Whitnall like for mine). But yes it was also a thinly veiled troll too - it makes it a bit of fun. But I think the thread is still overall fair dinks.

 

[HappyHawk]

Any more swipes at me and I'll take my bat and ball and go home. I mean it.

 

[TOPBLUE_25]

Walker not a pick 1

No 2.

 

[Western Blue]

Any more swipes at me and I'll take my bat and ball and go home. I mean it.

No doubt you often bat off

 

[len_jet]

Any more swipes at me and I'll take my bat and ball and go home. I mean it.

you bowl left arm around the wicket? Not that there's anything wrong with that

 

[HappyHawk]

Seriously, though, your recruiting team reminds me of ours under the turnbull years. It could hurt you as you will now climb up the ladder and have tougher picks. Also, the club needs an astute list manager. The next 2 years selections will determine if Carlton hit top 6 material (and maybe better later on).

True it's not my club, but my mates are Blues' fans and they're not that happy overall. But hey, why listen to a Hawk troll?

 

[parrot]

Seriously, though, y...

Seriously though, your team relies on Franklin to kick a bag. The rest of your forwards are middle-of-the-road. You're also lacking quality in your defensive half. And now Pelican has added yet another aging top-up player to your list. lol. Freo got caught by pushing the top-up-draft policy a little too early, thinking they were close to a flag, but were in fact miles a way. Hawks have fallen for the same trap. Hawks 2008 could be a Freo 2007 repeat. If that happens, the Melbourne-Hawks merger plans will bubble to the surface again no doubt.

 

[HappyHawk]

Seriously though, your team relies on Franklin to kick a bag. The rest of your forwards are middle-of-the-road. You're also lacking quality in your defensive half. And now Pelican has added yet another aging top-up player to your list. lol. Freo got caught by pushing the top-up-draft policy a little too early, thinking they were close to a flag, but were in fact miles a way. Hawks have fallen for the same trap. Hawks 2008 could be a Freo 2007 repeat. If that happens, the Melbourne-Hawks merger plans will bubble to the surface again no doubt.

No guarantees to make the top 8 for any side, so I'm not counting my chickadees.

But.

Our forward line: Williams Roughead Boyle
Franklin Throp Rioli /Dew/Crawf/Dowler

You reckon that's a one dimensional forward line???????????

 

[parrot]

No guarantees to make the top 8 for any side...

Actually the Hawks reckon top-4 is a 100% certainty in 2008, and hence the reason Pelican pushed the top-up-player-recruitment-drive button this year. Is he right? Perhaps not. The Hawks have a good side, but they still need some quality KP defenders, and some quality KP forwards other than Franklin, who is pretty much carrying the Hawks forward line. The Hawks midfield is good, but a little one-paced, and lacks upside. It has pretty much peaked. There's still some development/drafting work to do at the Hawks, and I think Pelican's top-up policy will set you back. BTW, I had to laugh when Jeff managed to cover up the Hawks loss, with a once off grant from the Tassie Government. The Hawks are borderline viable, and will be the next to be targeted by the AFL, after they relocate North. You'll be clocking up some frequent-flyer points in the near future I suspect. Interesting times ahead.

 

[Pafloyul]

Seriously, though, your recruiting team reminds me of ours under the turnbull years. It could hurt you as you will now climb up the ladder and have tougher picks. Also, the club needs an astute list manager. The next 2 years selections will determine if Carlton hit top 6 material (and maybe better later on).

True it's not my club, but my mates are Blues' fans and they're not that happy overall. But hey, why listen to a Hawk troll?

What aren't they happy about?

I personally find Carlton's recruiting lacks subtlety; everything seems to be a reaction to the past. In Hughes's first two drafts he drafts a seventeen year old with a late selection. It's a good theory but because it doesn't work wonders in its early implementation he (apparently) abandons it. Last year we went for athletic taller players. It is not an instant success (how could it be) then we go the opposite way the next year. We also impulsively trade a late round selection for a recycled older player with limited success and place too much faith in the preseason draft.

Too few of our selections seem to be players that we rate for talents sake alone and too much is left to chance. We need to constantly take risks but they need to be well calculated ones. It is like as if we barely even dip our toes in one moment or we jump right in without even testing the water the next.

 

[tubes]

No guarantees to make the top 8 for any side, so I'm not counting my chickadees.

But.

Our forward line: Williams Roughead Boyle
Franklin Throp Rioli /Dew/Crawf/Dowler

You reckon that's a one dimensional forward line???????????

fair enough. but who are those guys when theyre at home?

 

[Silvagnis]

No guarantees to make the top 8 for any side, so I'm not counting my chickadees.

But.

Our forward line: Williams Roughead Boyle
Franklin Throp Rioli /Dew/Crawf/Dowler

You reckon that's a one dimensional forward line???????????

Dowler?

He's a muppet.

Boyle is average at best and Dew has a glandular problem.

That forwardline will never make up for a shithouse and and overlooking key defenders in every draft. A great and stable backline developing together is the cornerstone of every premiership side.

You have Gilham and Croad.