CBD cannabis

[Quixote]

For those who aren't aware, CBD is a very mild, organically grown weed used for anti-anxiety, relaxation and medicinal purposes. It does not get you stoned in the traditional sense, due to low THC content. Personally I haven't used it, but would have no hesitation. This strain is only recently developed, I believe.

In Ireland and the States, CBD cannabis is legal to sell if it's THC content is 0.2% or under.

Does anyone have experience with CBD?

Anyone know of other countries that have legalised selling CBD cannabis/hemp in bud/flower form?

With the recent repealing of the legislation in this area, there is significant potential for businesses I feel to open up stores/cafes selling buds/coffee, Etc.

CBD weed is booming in California, apparently.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Yeah I've been high in the CBD.

 

[Quixote]

https://quartzy.qz.com/1230456/cbd-the-next-big-thing-in-marijuana-wont-get-you-high/

 

[Quixote]

"Every 10 seconds, someone orders marijuana on Ease."


https://www.eaze.com/blog/posts/eaze-insights-2017-cannabis-data-report

 

[Power Raid]

For those who aren't aware, CBD is a very mild, organically grown weed used for anti-anxiety, relaxation and medicinal purposes. It does not get you stoned in the traditional sense, due to low THC content. Personally I haven't used it, but would have no hesitation. This strain is only recently developed, I believe.

In Ireland and the States, CBD cannabis is legal to sell if it's THC content is 0.2% or under.

Does anyone have experience with CBD?

Anyone know of other countries that have legalised selling CBD cannabis/hemp in bud/flower form?

With the recent repealing of the legislation in this area, there is significant potential for businesses I feel to open up stores/cafes selling buds/coffee, Etc.

CBD weed is booming in California, apparently.

I bought a few farms in California after partnering with noble prize winning ex big pharma. I was dead against it when it was first presented as a business opportunity but was convinced after hearing how big pharma works.

FTR the THC has to be with ALL the CBDs to be most effective. Each active CBD can be isolated and the THC removed but it often loses it's effectiveness.

We supply 100% of our product to the US dept of defence via the NIH.

 

[mr bagcroft]

CBD/THC all comes from the same stuff, CBD is not a recent invention. Any marijuana has varying ratio's of both.
The difference is what you do to it in preparation after harvest that either preserves the CBD with LOW THC, or converts the CBD into THC and you get the real good stuff.

Example if you want THC, and your making oil, you must pre heat the marijuana to activate the THC before you do anything else. Emphasis on "must" .

 

[Quixote]

CBD/THC all comes from the same stuff, CBD is not a recent invention. Any marijuana has varying ratio's of both.
The difference is what you do to it in preparation after harvest that either preserves the CBD with LOW THC, or converts the CBD into THC and you get the real good stuff.

Example if you want THC, and your making oil, you must pre heat the marijuana to activate the THC before you do anything else. Emphasis on "must" .

Yep understand it's a way of cultivating it. Probably didn't express myself all that clearly.

What I'm curious about is the LOW THC varietals. Anything under 0.3% THC. I believe these varietals might be newer to market perhaps.

Have you tried any? Do you think there's a market for it, drawing from people who wouldn't in the past use pot or only rarely?

 

[Quixote]

I bought a few farms in California after partnering with noble prize winning ex big pharma. I was dead against it when it was first presented as a business opportunity but was convinced after hearing how big pharma works.

FTR the THC has to be with ALL the CBDs to be most effective. Each active CBD can be isolated and the THC removed but it often loses it's effectiveness.

We supply 100% of our product to the US dept of defence via the NIH.

Wow, thanks. What role is big pharma playing in this? What sort of product(s) are you supplying, can you elaborate a bit about your business (whilst remaining anonymous)?

Also what are your topline thoughts on the market/industry landscape?

 

[Power Raid]

Wow, thanks. What role is big pharma playing in this? What sort of product(s) are you supplying, can you elaborate a bit about your business (whilst remaining anonymous)?

Also what are your topline thoughts on the market/industry landscape?

The noble prize winners were working for big pharma and found a plant in south america that had medicinal properties. After isolating the active ingredients, they spent $2(?)b and 8 years going through trials, patents and approval process. The drug generated $32b in profit and resulted in their award.

They then went on to say "the only issue is, simply eating the plant is better for you than taking the pill".

They then went on about cannabis and it's known benefits for cancer treatment, promotion of the healing of wounds, pain relief, anti-nausea, calming, epilepsy etc etc. They then went on to say that keep the plant whole (cbds and THC) was the way to go and and either absorbed through the thin parts of the skin like the back of the throat and noise.

The department of defence is looking at the promotion of healing of wounds (boots sores etc), anti-nausea in the case of nuclear war, calming and general pain relief.

There is no big pharma involved, rather ex big pharma individuals.

I remain a anti-legalising marijuana for recreational use. The idea of supporting drug addicts who sit around smoking dope and eating pizza isn't something society needs. I'm not against the occasional user who has a normal responsible life, but they aren't effected by it not being legal as long as they are discrete.

I'm cautious on the industry though as the regulatory framework internationally is volatile. ie in the US it is illegal at a federal level and legal at the state level. That means you can run a marijuana business within state borders provided you are small scale, don't use banks (they have a federal licence) and don't use US currency. The department of defence gets around it by paying off shore in foreign currency.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Happy to make money off it. Opposed to legalisation. Unsurprising. Your ethical code has always been driven by what's best for you.

 

[Quixote]

Hmmm prefer personal shitfights to be left at the door of this thread to be honest.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

With all the paranoia about thc , it seems you guys need to chill out and have a cone.

Cbd is so good. They made it illegal

Like hookers and fast cars

https://www.medicalcannabisclinic.com.au/medicinal-cannabis/epilepsy-treatment/

 

[Quixote]

With all the paranoia about thc , it seems you guys need to chill out and have a cone.

Cbd is so good. They made it illegal

Like hookers and fast cars

https://www.medicalcannabisclinic.com.au/medicinal-cannabis/epilepsy-treatment/

So good they're out of product!!




What has been your experience with CBD Tgg?

 

[Power Raid]

Happy to make money off it. Opposed to legalisation. Unsurprising. Your ethical code has always been driven by what's best for you.

it's not about my best interest. If I wanted to make more money, I would want to see it legalised so I could increase demand. How could you not understand such a basic concept?

It's all about being consistent. For example, I would be more than happy to grow poppies for medical purposes but wouldn't sell it to sell to junkies on the street.

Same with marijuana. I'm happy to sell to the dept of defence and NIH for medical purposes but would not sell to someone lighting up a bong.



oh and FTR I have inhaled.

 

[Quixote]

The noble prize winners were working for big pharma and found a plant in south america that had medicinal properties. After isolating the active ingredients, they spent $2(?)b and 8 years going through trials, patents and approval process. The drug generated $32b in profit and resulted in their award.

They then went on to say "the only issue is, simply eating the plant is better for you than taking the pill".

They then went on about cannabis and it's known benefits for cancer treatment, promotion of the healing of wounds, pain relief, anti-nausea, calming, epilepsy etc etc. They then went on to say that keep the plant whole (cbds and THC) was the way to go and and either absorbed through the thin parts of the skin like the back of the throat and noise.

The department of defence is looking at the promotion of healing of wounds (boots sores etc), anti-nausea in the case of nuclear war, calming and general pain relief.

There is no big pharma involved, rather ex big pharma individuals.

I remain a anti-legalising marijuana for recreational use. The idea of supporting drug addicts who sit around smoking dope and eating pizza isn't something society needs. I'm not against the occasional user who has a normal responsible life, but they aren't effected by it not being legal as long as they are discrete.

I'm cautious on the industry though as the regulatory framework internationally is volatile. ie in the US it is illegal at a federal level and legal at the state level. That means you can run a marijuana business within state borders provided you are small scale, don't use banks (they have a federal licence) and don't use US currency. The department of defence gets around it by paying off shore in foreign currency.

The US legislation does look convoluted in parts. I'm hoping other countries find a more clear cut path -- Irelands seems to be.

When was it you invested in the farms, quite a while ago?

What do you think about some of the delivery services that have cropped up in the States?

 

[William Wonka]

For those who aren't aware, CBD is a very mild, organically grown weed used for anti-anxiety, relaxation and medicinal purposes. It does not get you stoned in the traditional sense, due to low THC content. Personally I haven't used it, but would have no hesitation. This strain is only recently developed, I believe.

In Ireland and the States, CBD cannabis is legal to sell if it's THC content is 0.2% or under.

Does anyone have experience with CBD?

Anyone know of other countries that have legalised selling CBD cannabis/hemp in bud/flower form?

With the recent repealing of the legislation in this area, there is significant potential for businesses I feel to open up stores/cafes selling buds/coffee, Etc.

CBD weed is booming in California, apparently.

A fair bit wrong here:

Cannabidiol is just one of the plethora of cannabinoids that go into making weed the wonderful thing that it is.
It is responsible for the 'chill' effects of cannabis consumption, partly by effect and also because its a THC antagonist so it reduces the more 'high' aspects.
Some growers have started to focus on higher % CBD strains as many people are looking more for the medicinal side rather than the recreational.

CBD/THC all comes from the same stuff, CBD is not a recent invention. Any marijuana has varying ratio's of both.
The difference is what you do to it in preparation after harvest that either preserves the CBD with LOW THC, or converts the CBD into THC and you get the real good stuff.

Example if you want THC, and your making oil, you must pre heat the marijuana to activate the THC before you do anything else. Emphasis on "must" .

Yes and No.

The word you are looking for is decarboxylation, this pretty much amounts to just drying weed before you smoke/vape it and heating/vaping it before you eat it.
You cant turn CBD into THC.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

So good they're out of product!!

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What has been your experience with CBD Tgg?

They've known since the sixties everything cannabis does.

Doesn't make doctors any money so has been discarded. Even when hands and feet above anything else for things like cancer and epilepsy pain management and anxiety.

It's only with the advent of cyberspace has people become aware of the big con.

 

[Power Raid]

The US legislation does look convoluted in parts. I'm hoping other countries find a more clear cut path -- Irelands seems to be.

When was it you invested in the farms, quite a while ago?

What do you think about some of the delivery services that have cropped up in the States?

I was a late comer, starting in 2016 and the last acquisition in 2017. The average plant deliver 20-25 pounds of flower and averages 4-5m in height before cropping.



I must admit I raise eyebrows at what is described as medical use and some of the practices of the dispensaries. It will be interesting to see how the various states will evolve their drug laws and interesting to see how the federal government responds with a change of government.

I guess how much tax is paid, will ultimately determine whether a crack down comes or not.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

It was interesting. Colorado was raking in the taxes from pot. The feds decreed pot illegal so couldn't tax Colorado's profits

Once Oregon and Washington did the same the feds were always gonna legalise it. Losing to much revenue.

 

[Quixote]

Cannabidiol is just one of the plethora of cannabinoids that go into making weed the wonderful thing that it is.
It is responsible for the 'chill' effects of cannabis consumption, partly by effect and also because its a THC antagonist so it reduces the more 'high' aspects.
Some growers have started to focus on higher % CBD strains as many people are looking more for the medicinal side rather than the recreational.

Cool cool. So what's your opinion on the higher % CBD strains? EG, 0.2 - 0.3% THC.

 

[Quixote]

I was a late comer, starting in 2016 and the last acquisition in 2017. The average plant deliver 20-25 pounds of flower and averages 4-5m in height before cropping.

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I must admit I raise eyebrows at what is described as medical use and some of the practices of the dispensaries. It will be interesting to see how the various states will evolve their drug laws and interesting to see how the federal government responds with a change of government.

I guess how much tax is paid, will ultimately determine whether a crack down comes or not.

Top shelf. Agreed RE the taxes point too.

What does an average dispensary look like over in the States -- do they just sell flowers or do they do offer other things/services?

 

[Power Raid]

Top shelf. Agreed RE the taxes point too.

What does an average dispensary look like over in the States -- do they just sell flowers or do they do offer other things/services?

they range from a corporate feel, to a medical feel to a hippie thing

the trend is definitely an up market mainstream feel

https://www.leafly.com/news/lifestyle/beautiful-marijuana-dispensary-designs-and-layouts

 

[William Wonka]

Cool cool. So what's your opinion on the higher % CBD strains? EG, 0.2 - 0.3% THC.

As Power Raid mentioned before, isolating one particular element of a plant can mean a less effective result than just using the plant in its entirety (a very very basic example is a Vitamin C tablet VS an orange ) so using lowTHC/highCBD is preferable to artificially extracted CBD as you still get the 100 other cannabinoids that interact in unknown or hardly studied ways with the CBD.

THC should not be looked at as a villain btw. as it has a synergistic relationship with CBD.

The problem I see with the new strains being created through hybridization in Europe and the states is they are all coming from recreational strains of sativa and indica.
I think the best bet for medical cannabis lies in some of the ruderalis strains in S.E asia.
Contrary to popular belief there is some real potency to be found THC wise with copious amounts of naturally occurring CBD.

 

[Power Raid]

It was interesting. Colorado was raking in the taxes from pot. The feds decreed pot illegal so couldn't tax Colorado's profits

Once Oregon and Washington did the same the feds were always gonna legalise it. Losing to much revenue.

just because an activity is illegal, it doesn't mean you don't have to pay tax.

taxes have to be made in person though, as you can't use the banking system

 

[twotooto]

The noble prize winners were working for big pharma and found a plant in south america that had medicinal properties. After isolating the active ingredients, they spent $2(?)b and 8 years going through trials, patents and approval process. The drug generated $32b in profit and resulted in their award.

They then went on to say "the only issue is, simply eating the plant is better for you than taking the pill".

They then went on about cannabis and it's known benefits for cancer treatment, promotion of the healing of wounds, pain relief, anti-nausea, calming, epilepsy etc etc. They then went on to say that keep the plant whole (cbds and THC) was the way to go and and either absorbed through the thin parts of the skin like the back of the throat and noise.

The department of defence is looking at the promotion of healing of wounds (boots sores etc), anti-nausea in the case of nuclear war, calming and general pain relief.

There is no big pharma involved, rather ex big pharma individuals.

I remain a anti-legalising marijuana for recreational use. The idea of supporting drug addicts who sit around smoking dope and eating pizza isn't something society needs. I'm not against the occasional user who has a normal responsible life, but they aren't effected by it not being legal as long as they are discrete.

I'm cautious on the industry though as the regulatory framework internationally is volatile. ie in the US it is illegal at a federal level and legal at the state level. That means you can run a marijuana business within state borders provided you are small scale, don't use banks (they have a federal licence) and don't use US currency. The department of defence gets around it by paying off shore in foreign currency.

Re the bolded