Clark Keeting at Pies in 2007

[FadeAway]

In the Age this morning there is talk of the pies going over a physical with Clark Keating...

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/11/05/1162661552343.html

Last time they did this, was with Blake and they selecting him in the pre-season draft problem is St Kilda have a pick before us and they are also interested. If it adds a few more years to Josh's career i would give him a go, he just turned 30.

 

[MarkT]

The numbers say we won't use the PSD unless someone else gets the chop. If the thread about Walker is correct then you may be right otherwise I doubt it. I'd swap Walker for Keating.

 

[FadeAway]

Well apparantly Collingwood have their eyes on 4 established players and will use their PSD pick on one of them

 

[FIGJAM]

The numbers say we won't use the PSD unless someone else gets the chop. If the thread about Walker is correct then you may be right otherwise I doubt it. I'd swap Walker for Keating.

You'd have to say the Walker thread is correct unless Clarke goes in the actual draft.

We have to use the last pick.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

What if somebody snaps up Keating before us?

We'll be stuffed then!

 

[lenny&carl]

As it stands, we could use pick 63 in the draft to get Keating, and I'd be happy with that, (as long as we get a young ruck with an earlier pick also.) But if the Walker story is true then we would have pick76/psd10 as well, and I'd be even happier to get him at 76. Certainly better than Walker.

 

[HBF]

Well apparantly Collingwood have their eyes on 4 established players and will use their PSD pick on one of them

IMO, Keating would be a great pick up for the 'pies.

 

[daics cousin]

Keating would be good.Who are the 4 established players that the pies are interested in ?

 

[Dave The Man]

It says Intrested In Him not that we are getting him!

 

[Chase the Ace]

What if somebody snaps up Keating before us?

I think if that happens the rules say we can't take him. I think that is how it works, but I am happy to be corrected.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I think if that happens the rules say we can't take him. I think that is how it works, but I am happy to be corrected.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Chase the Ace]

Are you sure about that?

No, I'm not. Your knowledge on these things would be far better than mine. You are great and know everything that is going on. I think you must know there is a rule that says if another club talkes him, we will still be able to get him, or else you wouldn't have asked me. I think.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

As stated previously (and I'll explain clearly for the unintelligent), we may not get Keating and need to consider plan B, C and D, because we only have two ruckmen, one of whom is never fit and the other who is not really a ruckman and may be needed forward in place of Tarrant.

So I ask again, what happens if we miss out on Keating? Surely we cant rely on an 18 year old?

 

[driver 8]

No, I'm not. Your knowledge on these things would be far better than mine. You are great and know everything that is going on. I think you must know there is a rule that says if another club talkes him, we will still be able to get him, or else you wouldn't have asked me. I think.

It was mildly funny the first time

Shouldve quit while you were ahead

 

[Wayne91]

Why bother picking up keating, he is completely finished.

 

[Bay Pie]

I think if that happens the rules say we can't take him. I think that is how it works, but I am happy to be corrected.

We can play the wild card which allows us to swap any selected player with another teams pick.

We may use this card to get Bryce Gibbs though.

 

[Chase the Ace]

It was mildly funny the first time

Shouldve quit while you were ahead

What do you mean

 

[danielcan]

As stated previously (and I'll explain clearly for the unintelligent), we may not get Keating and need to consider plan B, C and D, because we only have two ruckmen, one of whom is never fit and the other who is not really a ruckman and may be needed forward in place of Tarrant.

So I ask again, what happens if we miss out on Keating? Surely we cant rely on an 18 year old?

Keating deserves a go. Plus with the great training regimen of Collingwood and state of the art facilities, and the bonus of playing lots of MCG games, Keating will thrive.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Keating deserves a go. Plus with the great training regimen of Collingwood and state of the art facilities, and the bonus of playing lots of MCG games, Keating will thrive.

Its not so much a matter of whether he deserves a go, its more what other choice do we have. But if somebody snaps him up before us, we'll be really thin on the ground for rucks.

 

[MarkT]

We have been thin on the ground for rucks for a very long time. If we don't take an experienced player in any of the drafts and if Walker has gone we will be down to Fraser who is average as a tap ruckman, Richards who isn't as good as Fraser and very injury prone and undersized makeshift options. In terms of the undersized makeshift options they probably won’t perform any worse than Fanning, Hall or Walker and possibly Cameron Cloke would have, although I would dispute that re Cloke.

The problem is we will go into a season with Fraser as the only remotely viable option and the probability that he will have a very heavy load with little chance of relief. After 22 games we'd head into September, if we got that far, knowing Fraser will be all but run ragged. I don't really have much issue with losing the ruck options we have lost (as I said I would have kept Cameron) but the recurring theme of underpowered rucks and the apparent lack of respect for the rile from the coach is pretty poor IMO.

If we make excuses about not have options to shore up the ruck now I will scream. The fact is we are now paying for the sins of the past and it is all our own fault. We are not very good at accepting that fact though.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

terms of the undersized makeshift options they probably won’t perform any worse than Fanning, Hall or Walker and possibly Cameron Cloke would have, although I would dispute that re Cloke.

Be under no illusion, Shane Wakelin is now our fourth ruck option behind Fraser Richards and T Cloke. Then somebody like Presti, or undersized youngsters like John Anthony or Shannon Cox, assuming Rocca cant do it any more.

Our options are far worse than when we had Fanning Hall, Walker, Cam and Jason Cloke.

We must recruit one experienced ruck and draft two others.

 

[Dazman]

Why bother picking up keating, he is completely finished.

agreed

 

[Coin_Toss]

Keating deserves a go. Plus with the great training regimen of Collingwood and state of the art facilities, and the bonus of playing lots of MCG games, Keating will thrive.

I can't believe I would agree with a Brisbane Lion supporter, you're right - he won 2 premiership medallions on the MCG, he's had past success on the ground where Collingwood play 15 games next season. Surely this amounts to something that is only good for the Club.

 

[BigCat2]

Keating may be past his best, but the question's been over his fitness, not his effectiveness.

We have Charman and Wood, and the club probably decided that 1 of Keating or Beau had to go - we kept Beau. Doesn't mean Crackers can't do a job for a team in need of an experienced ruck.

 

[danielcan]

I can't believe I would agree with a Brisbane Lion supporter, you're right - he won 2 premiership medallions on the MCG, he's had past success on the ground where Collingwood play 15 games next season. Surely this amounts to something that is only good for the Club.

agree, agree...

we all love footy and know a good player when we see one. plus many of us in Lions land will really miss Keating.