Science & Mathematics Cloning extinct animals

[rambopunisher]

I remember watching Tv snippets and reading about a few scientists somewhere in the world that reckon they can clone the Wolly Mammoth same goes for a scientist in Australia who thinks he can clone the Tasmanian Tiger/Thylacine. Any way the question i want to ask everyone is should cloning extinct animals be allowed when the technology gets better and if so what species of extinct animals would you like to see brought back from the dead or extinction.

Here is a few animals i would like to see brought back from extinction:

- Thylacine/ Tasmanian Tiger
- Dodo
- Archeopteryx
- Giant Wombat ( this is a real animal from Australia )

 

[r dub 19]

I remember in primary school a girl's mum was working on clonining a wooly mammoth I think. Not sure if it was clonining but I remember it involved said beast, this was at least 10 years ago though.

I'd love to see any dinosaur really, probably not possibly but still.

 

[Damon_3388]

Obviously it would be an interesting scientific achievement to see an entinct animal bought back to life, but I can't help but feel all the time, effort and money that would go into it would be better spent elsewhere. I mean, you bring back an extinct animal, and it's a nice novelty story at the end of the 6pm news, but what then? Around the world, there's still people who are homeless, people who are starving to death, people who are dying of diseases, etc. Why not spend the money on them instead?

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Obviously it would be an interesting scientific achievement to see an entinct animal bought back to life, but I can't help but feel all the time, effort and money that would go into it would be better spent elsewhere. I mean, you bring back an extinct animal, and it's a nice novelty story at the end of the 6pm news, but what then? Around the world, there's still people who are homeless, people who are starving to death, people who are dying of diseases, etc. Why not spend the money on them instead?

Hmmm... Maybe because people arn't f***ing extinct!! There will always be starving, dying people... But to bring back life from extinction and save an entire species is a miracal. I can't stand people who think that a human life is worth an entire biosphere.

 

[_JC_]

Won't happen anytime in the foreseeable future. As cloning still requires a surrogate to bear the cloned animal to birth.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Also. Why do we keep breeding? We are over-populated as it is. Our planet cannot sustain us. And yet there are still pricks like Damon that think that every human life is more precious than any other living creature.

Umm... NO! Without humans, this planet would be thriving right now. I'm not sure who decided that an animals life is worth less than a humans, but they are clearly delusional.

 

[r dub 19]

Won't happen anytime in the foreseeable future. As cloning still requires a surrogate to bear the cloned animal to birth.

I nominate octomum.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

That's how this shit started:

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Again... The USA has a defence budget of world conquest proportions. Why couldn't this money be used to feed the world's starving? We never had any right to take an entire species from this planet. We could at least replace it.

But no, build the tanks, burn the rainforest, and use spend the rest on the sick. The sick, who, by the way... We made sick with our cigarettes, fast food, polluted air... It goes on.

 

[ben_cats_fan]

Also. Why do we keep breeding? We are over-populated as it is. Our planet cannot sustain us. And yet there are still pricks like Damon that think that every human life is more precious than any other living creature.

Umm... NO! Without humans, this planet would be thriving right now. I'm not sure who decided that an animals life is worth less than a humans, but they are clearly delusional.

You could have the snip and make sure nobody else with your opinions on things respawn? That would be preferable.

 

[r dub 19]

I would honestly rage if such a thing ever happended. I couldn't care less about monetary issues associated with it more the fact that it goes against natures will. I genuinely think technology will be the downfall of mankind and technoligical advancements should be discouraged by no public funding.

 

[hamG]

Hey if we can clone and re-create Tasmanian Tigers we may as well bring back their other extinct species ... Tassie Abos.

High five for the white man

Personally I would like to bring back our giant kangaroos. The 2m tall ones, they would **** up your car.

 

[Damon_3388]

Hmmm... Maybe because people arn't f***ing extinct!! There will always be starving, dying people... But to bring back life from extinction and save an entire species is a miracal. I can't stand people who think that a human life is worth an entire biosphere.

Unless someone can provide evidence that extinct animals like the Tasmanian tiger or the dodo are the great missing link in the animal food chain, I just don't see what bringing them back would achieve, beyond a feel-good story at the end of the news. I feel the time, effort and resources can be better used elsewhere. If thinking that makes me a "prick", then so be it.

Also. Why do we keep breeding? We are over-populated as it is. Our planet cannot sustain us. And yet there are still pricks like Damon that think that every human life is more precious than any other living creature.

Umm... NO! Without humans, this planet would be thriving right now. I'm not sure who decided that an animals life is worth less than a humans, but they are clearly delusional.

Just so this planet can thrive again, maybe we should all top ourselves. You first, of course

 

[Leper]

Fitzroy Lions.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

If this takes place then Mr Darwin would be slightly peeved. Natural selection, pffffftttt.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

If this takes place then Mr Darwin would be slightly peeved. Natural selection, pffffftttt.

Science 1, Darwinism 0.

 

[BomberGal]

If this takes place then Mr Darwin would be slightly peeved. Natural selection, pffffftttt.

Goddammit!

I don't see why we should bring back extinct species. Yes, dinosaurs are awesome. But thousands of species are dying and always have. It's how the world works. I don't see why we should bring back one or two.

At any rate, we could bring more recent extinct species back to life I imagine, but long gone ones like the dinosaurs will probably never happen without massive, massive assumptions about the DNA code (no, you cannot fill it in with a frog's DNA!). And if you did, how would you ever know you were right?

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Goddammit!

I don't see why we should bring back extinct species. Yes, dinosaurs are awesome. But thousands of species are dying and always have. It's how the world works. I don't see why we should bring back one or two.

At any rate, we could bring more recent extinct species back to life I imagine, but long gone ones like the dinosaurs will probably never happen without massive, massive assumptions about the DNA code (no, you cannot fill it in with a frog's DNA!). And if you did, how would you ever know you were right?

Homo sapiens are an odd species in that we are attempting to take control of nature and in the process corrupting the process of natural selection. Somewhat paradoxically it is the process of natural selection that has given us the ability to take control/corrupt that very process.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Also. Why do we keep breeding? We are over-populated as it is. Our planet cannot sustain us. And yet there are still pricks like Damon that think that every human life is more precious than any other living creature.

Umm... NO! Without humans, this planet would be thriving right now. I'm not sure who decided that an animals life is worth less than a humans, but they are clearly delusional.

You are such a bloody loser, Are you typing this while in a tree? It'll all balance out, not enough food for all of us, there you have it, "Nature" Thins us out again with a lack of resources to feed 20+ Billion human

Anyways, the Animals are extinct for a reason, They couldnt survive in nature, sure it might be our fault for killing them, but hell we are not the first type of animal to completely wipe out another.

We're Nothing, i hate this self importance "Humans" have, we're very clever no doubt, however we're still ******ed at the same time

The Earth and nature is always changing Organisms will always live on the planet untill it gets destroyed by a meteor or aliens or whatever

The Earth is fine,

George Carlin, The MAN had this to say

We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these ****ing people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the ****ing planet? I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of ****ing Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are ****ed. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

However, Im waiting for the day that scientists start making real life pokemon, so i can go and become a pokemon master. Make it happen rather then clone dead animals so they can go and die again

 

[Brad Roo]

A Megaladon would be pretty cool and shouldn't be too hard to clone if some DNA were found.

 

[BomberGal]

^ lol. "Shouldn't be too hard to clone". I assume you are not familiar with the difficulties in cloning! Or that complete, intact DNA will probably never be found.

Homo sapiens are an odd species in that we are attempting to take control of nature and in the process corrupting the process of natural selection. Somewhat paradoxically it is the process of natural selection that has given us the ability to take control/corrupt that very process.

As true as that is - we seem to have evolved brains but not the ability to use them, a lot of the time - most species dying out has nothing to do with humans, so I see no reason to bring them back. We just know about the big ones that we happen to have killed.

*sits at top of food chain with smug grin*

 

[Upgrayedd]

As true as that is - we seem to have evolved brains but not the ability to use them, a lot of the time - most species dying out has nothing to do with humans, so I see no reason to bring them back. We just know about the big ones that we happen to have killed.

*sits at top of food chain with smug grin*

If we killed them off effectively its nature, we're apart of it, if we killed it its the stupid animals fault for not adapting to its enviroment, Every animal that has died did not adapt to nature, so we shouldnt care.

 

[BomberGal]

If we killed them off effectively its nature, we're apart of it, if we killed it its the stupid animals fault for not adapting to its enviroment, Every animal that has died did not adapt to nature, so we shouldnt care.

Evolution generally isn't 'designed' to adapt to bullets...I'd say rapid deforestation, too, but then plenty of species survived all the mass extinctions in the past caused by events like asteroid impacts and ice ages.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Evolution generally isn't 'designed' to adapt to bullets...I'd say rapid deforestation, too, but then plenty of species survived all the mass extinctions in the past caused by events like asteroid impacts and ice ages.

Evolution is about adaption to the enviroment, natural or unnatural, im sure the world freezing over wasnt really "natural" however if the animals died they died for a reason. A Beaver drowning several homes of other animals by making dams is hardly natural either.

All eventually goes around, if an animal evolves to have exploding acid for blood (xenomorphs rule!) and enjoyed human flesh and we dont adapt quick enough to survive, well everything will keep on going even when we are wiped off, the Thing shouldnt feel bad, Its Natural progression.

 

[BomberGal]

Evolution is about adaption to the enviroment, natural or unnatural, im sure the world freezing over wasnt really "natural" however if the animals died they died for a reason. A Beaver drowning several homes of other animals by making dams is hardly natural either.

These processes would continue with or without us, though. The world freezing over is a perfectly natural event, it has happened many times in the earth's history.

All eventually goes around, if an animal evolves to have exploding acid for blood (xenomorphs rule!) and enjoyed human flesh and we dont adapt quick enough to survive, well everything will keep on going even when we are wiped off, the Thing shouldnt feel bad, Its Natural progression.

I don't necessarily feel bad, but I still see a distinction between what nature causes and what humans cause, even if humans are a part of nature. The senseless deforestation in Indonesia and Malaysia, for example, is pushing millions of animals into homelessness, and for what? I think we should be concerned about this.

Evolution also occurs by a number of mechanisms. The main one is natural selection, but there are others called population bottlenecks and genetic drift. Sudden loss of habitat does not result in natural selection (it is too quick), but may cause a population bottleneck. If part of a species is lucky enough to survive and evolve, good for them. But I don't really see why we need to go around senselessly causing population bottlenecks.

Humans are destroying life on this planet. Part of it is the food chain, and that I don't mind. The other part of it will be the end of us, and as creatures formed by this earth as much as any other, I think we have some responsibility.