Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[SJ17]

and the alternative is ??...Brazil ?

Yes because Australia and Brazil were essentially the same country pre-covid. Thank **** we didn't half arse lockdowns.

 

[burge13]

Neanderthal level IQ to compare our living situation to other countries. Why this continues i have no idea but you only prove how stupid you are by continuing to do so

 

[giggler99]

and the alternative is ??...Brazil ?

lol you keep bringing up Brazil do you know how most Brazilians live?

More than a third of the country live under the poverty line, they live in slumps on top of each other and survive on scraps, with next to no clean water and hygiene or Vitamin intakes, most of these peoples immune systems are so poor that the common cold/flu kills thousands each year!
You think they can lock themselves up like yourself in fear of a virus and be safe or even survive? They are pretty much living to survive daily from muggings, shootings, kidnappings and gang rapes than worrying about any virus.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Neanderthal level IQ to compare our living situation to other countries. Why this continues i have no idea but you only prove how stupid you are by continuing to do so

I keep asking for the alternatives everyone here hopes for and all I get is

 

[BlueE]

The WHO are experts in mistakes, seeing as it was their failure to act that caused the widespread deaths around the world. They were the ones who sat on their hands, proclaiming that their was no risk of airborne transmission and travel bans were unnecessary. I don't recall masks being recommended early on either.

Research finds huge impact of interventions on spread of Covid-19

Study suggests number of cases could have been cut by 66% if China had acted a week earlier

www.theguardian.com

Effect of non-pharmaceutical interventions for containing the COVID-19 outbreak in China

Background The COVID-19 outbreak containment strategies in China based on non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) appear to be effective. Quantitative research is still needed however to assess the efficacy of different candidate NPIs and their timings to guide ongoing and future responses to...

www.medrxiv.org

According to the research, if china had of instituted lockdowns earlier the spread would have been massively curtailed, one week earlier 66% less infections and 95% at three weeks earlier. Yet we had the WHO running damage control for the CCP in the early days of the outbreak. If the WHO had of done what they are there to do, instead of the corrupt political games they played, the world wouldn't be in the mess it is. They failed to react, and are now going around trying to deflect the blame.

Or without any of the publicity for the fake projections, it would have had the effect of a bad flu year with no lockdowns, closing of businesses or vaccines.

 

[BlueE]

I keep asking for the alternatives everyone here hopes for and all I get is

You've ben given heaps of alternatives. Professor Clancy a vaccine supporter, says the COVID injections are not needed to open borders and move forward because there are safe and effective therapeutics like IVM +Zn that have been shown in peer reviewed research to have a 100% positive effect.

 

[Hawk Dork]

You've ben given heaps of alternatives. Professor Clancy a vaccine supporter, says the COVID injections are not needed to open borders and move forward because there are safe and effective therapeutics like IVM +Zn that have been shown in peer reviewed research to have a 100% positive effect.
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lol

still the flu shit.... tell the dead people and the ones with long covid its just the flu

Everyone here bangs on I want my freedoms but cant give me an example of where giving people their freedoms worked....Brazil is the closest you can get to a country who followed the guidelines from this thread
show me a country we need to copy to have our freedoms

 

[GuzzLG]

lol

still the flu sh*t.... tell the dead people and the ones with long covid its just the flu

Everyone here bangs on I want my freedoms but cant give me an example of where giving people their freedoms worked....Brazil is the closest you can get to a country who followed the guidelines from this thread
show me a country we need to copy to have our freedoms

Florida vs California?

 

[burge13]

Still living in bizarro world where no one ever died before 2020. Ignoring life expectancy vs average age of deaths and health issues of most of the deaths also. Just laughably stupid.

 

[burge13]

Florida vs California?

Texas opened up against "experts guidance" too. Alls fine

 

[BlueE]

I just found out a guy I went to school with (38), had the vaccine and died the next day. He wasn't the healthiest fella, but seems too coincidental. For someone who is on the fence about the covid vaccines, (though I vehemently disagree with forced vaccinations), it raises some serious concerns. I don't know anyone who has ever died from taking the pill

The comparison to blood clots from the pill is incorrect, as if it was just blood clotting without an immune reaction on platelets, then they should be comparing the 10,000 quoted by Pfizer and AZ in the EU adverse effect reporting. There are a few that die from blood clots from the Pill, 538 quoted deaths in England in the last 58 years, around 10 a year.

The clots being connected to AZ (also happens with Pfizer), are vaccine caused immune platelet disorder causing clots that's stopped AZ roll out that has been quoted causing 1 in 100,000 deaths and 10 times as many occurrence without deaths, but the latest evidence from Denmark which has banned AZ injections completely is that it's causing 1 in 60,000 deaths. If we're talking just about these clots, and not ones that occur with the pill, then that's a potential 80 deaths a year in Australia, if we rolled out all 50 mil injections, and many more in other countries.

It's interesting that we hear nothing about any other deaths after the injections like your friend and I'd think at only 38 years old this should be publisised. In the trials and the adverse affect reports from UK, US and EU there were many other causes of death from the injections with heart attacks being one main causes.

 

[MrKK]

Articles you won't see from our ABC.

Magufuli’s Covid response saved thousands

Ex-WHO scientist Dr David Bell defends Tanzania's handling of Covid-19 and says President Magufuli saved thousands of lives by refusing to lockdown.

www.newsafrica.net

"He rightly predicted that Covid-19 mortality in Africa would be very low compared to other major killers like malaria, tuberculous (TB) and HIV-Aids, and followed good public health principles in prioritising these higher burden diseases that particularly afflict the young, while telling Tanzanians not to panic.

He also prioritised keeping the economy growing, which is in the long term the most effective way of improving life-expectancy and health. In short, he acted as you would expect a well-trained scientist and rational public health expert to act in the Tanzanian context.

Throughout the Covid-19 pandemic, the media has demanded longer and harder lockdowns, as if they were normal – or helpful.

But they rarely point out that no pandemic plan recommended mass business closures and restrictions on religious freedom, travel, or normal societal function before 2020, because removing these is expected to cause greater harm, and impinges greatly on fundamental human rights."

GDP rose in Tanzania for 2020, which will have a much better impact on public health than obsessing about a single disease.

 

[BlueE]

All those death stats are based off estimates and expected figures. I could predict 1 death for April and say there has been excess deaths.
The 2020 numbers are not published.
In the USA there were 2900689 deaths in 2019. In 2020 there were 2487350 deaths up to mid November. Figures than stop. So from Jan- Nov less US people died in 2020 than 19.

Faucci used the same argument warning Australia we couldn't go back to normal unless the world was vaccinated.
The guys a ******* lunatic. Even now sitting on a train listening to constant announcements stay safe get on top of the virus is North Korea esk.
People are that blind to their ideology desperate to prove their credentials or blindly trusting experts without questioning advice or their motivations.
How can critical thought be so lacking as a species?

Under rated post! They give a complicated interpretation of what they mean by "excess deaths" so they can continue with the fear mongering headlines which the Hawkies of the world (no offence) gobble up.

In total, approx 400,000 less people died in 2020 than 2019 in the US.

Deaths per 100 million of population give an even better idea as you could expect more people to be alive at the start of 2020 so more deaths than 2019 could have been expected.

CNN have admitted posting deaths from COVID constantly on screen was good for ratings. The CDC show many other causes when COVID 19 was accredited for the death, as well as a Johns Hopkins analysis that saw decreases in heart attacks, respiratory diseases, pneumonia and flu to be equal to increases in COVID 19 deaths.

 

[Kurve]

Get ya vaccines

NSW woman, 48, dies a week after getting Covid-19 vaccine

Daily Mail Australia understands the woman, who was diabetic but otherwise previously in good health, was placed in an intensive care unit and died yesterday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

No idea what I'm doing yet re the vaccine but for curiosity. Say for example, you don't get the vaccine and you want to go to a birthday party with all your close friends and it's in a closed space. You know that at least out of the forty there, ten of them have covid.

What do you do? Do you stay away or do you go and take some precautions, mask, keeping some distance etc, or do you go and be hugging on everybody there?

 

[BlueE]

Hardly mysterious. People have been working on coronaviruses for many years and a pandemic brought a global response.

As for HIV, you've got a much, much better chance with it now than compared to 40 years ago. Again, due to a scientific response around the world.

Unsuccessfully for 30 years, with horrific deaths resulting in all animals in the comprehensive animal studies. SO why didn't any of the Big Pharma companies complete comprehensive animal studies this time to rule out the serious adverse effects that happened.

Tens of thousands of experts around the world are saying there are safe and effective therapeutics, so there was no need to rush the emergency approvals and use humans as lab rats. Phase 3 testing isn't even going to be reported on before January 2023.

A similar push happened with swine flu in 2009 when a "vaccine" was pushed on the population. There were many adverse reactions, that governments or big pharma were not indemnified for in the many countries were forced to buy injections, because WHO had declared a Pandemic. Media listened to Drs warnings and stopped the vaccines, and just like a normal but serious virus ( like SARS 1, MERS and the 4 other common cold corona viruses), it went away. However the fear narrative has taken hold now with Big Pharma having indemnity, media refusing to give

Canada has recognised the danger of Oxford AZ, banning for anyone under 55, along with many European countries and totally banned in Switzerland, South Africa, Denmark Finland and not approved in US. Pfizer also has many adverse effects and an unusual immune effect on blood platelets, but they've been able to say so far, "Death by Co-incidence"

AstraZeneca vaccine: Denmark stops rollout completely

It is the first European country to fully withdraw the jab over possible links to rare blood clots.

www.bbc.com

 

[zill]

It's interesting that we hear nothing about any other deaths after the injections like your friend and I'd think at only 38 years old this should be publisised. In the trials and the adverse affect reports from UK, US and EU there were many other causes of death from the injections with heart attacks being one main causes.

Do you really expect deaths and serious reactions to be publicised? The official line is that the vaccine is safe, and the deaths are coincidental. Listening to the radio just now i heard that the 48 year old who died had "diabetes, as well as serious underlying health problems" . If a 94 year old in aged care died, it was "died of covid". This will get swept under the rug, media will stop reporting on any further reactions and AZ vaccine will be reinstated for use.

 

[burge13]

But the beaches were closed in summer...

 

[Fwoy]

 

[BlueE]

Do you really expect deaths and serious reactions to be publicised? The official line is that the vaccine is safe, and the deaths are coincidental. Listening to the radio just now i heard that the 48 year old who died had "diabetes, as well as serious underlying health problems" . If a 94 year old in aged care died, it was "died of covid". This will get swept under the rug, media will stop reporting on any further reactions and AZ vaccine will be reinstated for use.

The US, UK and EU have comprehensive adverse effects from the COVID injections that are published. They can say after that they're all a co-incidence (except those specific blood clots) but they've kept public record.

That being said I'm not surprised if Australia doesn't have a record of adverse effects, or is not making it public.

I've said before, I'm sure there are many from aged care who have died within days of getting their injections and we won't hear of it, because it's a co-incidence and any death was called COVID-19 within 30 days of having symptoms and you didn't even have to have a positive test.

It's a lot harder to sweep under the rug when many countries around the world now have stopped giving the AZ injections to under 55s or banned it completely. All this with safe and effective therapeutics available, but they and Big Pharma have indemnity so don't care.

 

[BlueE]

Hahahaha. But wait, didn't he get sick initially not long after getting his jab??? Think someone posted about it!

 

[BlueE]

But the beaches were closed in summer...

Not allowed outside to sit and enjoy the sun, unless it was one hour a day of exercise and had to cover up with a mask!!

 

[Tiger Toffee]

No idea what I'm doing yet re the vaccine but for curiosity. Say for example, you don't get the vaccine and you want to go to a birthday party with all your close friends and it's in a closed space. You know that at least out of the forty there, ten of them have covid.

What do you do? Do you stay away or do you go and take some precautions, mask, keeping some distance etc, or do you go and be hugging on everybody there?

I'll hug people, covid doesn't scare me, for 90% of the world who get it it's virtually the common cold. Have you allowed the governments to frighten you is the question you should be asking yourself.

 

[Fwoy]

No idea what I'm doing yet re the vaccine but for curiosity. Say for example, you don't get the vaccine and you want to go to a birthday party with all your close friends and it's in a closed space. You know that at least out of the forty there, ten of them have covid.

What do you do? Do you stay away or do you go and take some precautions, mask, keeping some distance etc, or do you go and be hugging on everybody there?

‘more likely my friends will cancel it over fears. I work hospo and am not really worried about it tbh

 

[Run n Spread]

No idea what I'm doing yet re the vaccine but for curiosity. Say for example, you don't get the vaccine and you want to go to a birthday party with all your close friends and it's in a closed space. You know that at least out of the forty there, ten of them have covid.

What do you do? Do you stay away or do you go and take some precautions, mask, keeping some distance etc, or do you go and be hugging on everybody there?

I'd go. Assuming people with Covid are at the party and not locked down.

 

[Bender20]

don’t drive your car

Seriously your standards have dropped to embarrassing lows.
I had the time initially to read and understand your posts.
Its not a cool way of looking at it, periods, cars, dude you've slipped to the gutter critics level.

Lift your game!.