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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%
  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%

  • Total voters
    74

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When have I been ignorant before.
I believe vaccines cause side effects and deaths.
You claim vaccines are safe and effective.
I show data from official reporting sites.
You say Bill Gates says so.

you are defending the graphs’ clearly and demonstrably ignorant theory.

If that is depth of your analytical skill then you a clearly vulnerable to believing other equally invalid conclusions on data.
 
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The country has 16.3 million total coronavirus cases with the young predominantly taking up hospital beds.
Delhi alone has 65 per cent of infections under 40 years old.


Seems the new Indian strain gets the young
 
The country has 16.3 million total coronavirus cases with the young predominantly taking up hospital beds.
Delhi alone has 65 per cent of infections under 40 years old.


Seems the new Indian strain gets the young
Why are they relying on O2 for severe patients when it hasn't been recommended treatment for almost a year?

"The hospital had 4,000 cubic tons of oxygen on Friday morning that he said will last four to five hours if they use it “judiciously.”

How on earth can one hospital get through 1,000 tons of oxygen AN HOUR?

Propaganda fearmongering going on in this article.

There has been a cumulative total of 16 million cases with 15 million recovered and the sharp increased of deaths per day has only occurred after the COVID injections started to be given. Herd immunity reached for original infection as seen in previous graphs, but as in many other countries this is a new mutant correlated with COVID injections.

65% of infections in Delhi being under 40, is not related at all to the ages of people that die. Doesn't say how many young people are in hospital and only gives a biased picture when the facts show the steep increase in cases and deaths is directly correlated to COVID injections. Even then, deaths of 1000 a day is only one death per 13.9 million people!

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Could be exponential growth amongst the rest who took it a little more casually once they thought the problem would be solved

I doubt the testing in India is that thorough
 
Looks like this is the research that Drs in UK and US are relying on to say Pfizer and Modena injections are safe to give pregnant women.

This is what the media say

CDC recommends pregnant women get Covid vaccine after study shows it’s safe for mother and baby
PUBLISHED FRI, APR 23 20214:44 PM EDTUPDATED 4 HOURS AGO

The researchers found no “obvious safety signals” among any of the 35,691 women who were followed in the peer-reviewed study published Wednesday by The New England Journal of Medicine. Data used in the research was self-reported, and the participants’ ages ranged from 16 to 54 years old.

“No safety concerns were observed for people vaccinated in the third trimester or safety concerns for their babies,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Friday. “As such, CDC recommends pregnant people receive Covid-19 vaccines.”

Of the 827 participants who completed their pregnancy, rates of miscarriage were the same as rates observed before the pandemic.

The findings are preliminary and covered just the first 11 weeks of the U.S. vaccine rollout, from Dec. 14 to Feb. 28.


Wait what? Was there 35,691 pregnant women studied that had no safety problems in pregnancy with the jab or 827 that completed their pregnancy, with some having miscarriages equaling the normal miscarriage rate in third trimester?

These are the NEJM preliminary findings which aren't on 35,691 pregnant women who've been injected, but only 14% (5000). Of those, almost 1000 eligible are not reported on and could have had adverse effects or miscarriages but this wasn't followed up on. Of the remaining 4000, only 827 are reported on. The remaining 3180 were in first and second semesters and still to be reported on. It's hard to taken any of the findings seriously to give reliable information on COVID injections and pregnancy, even as preliminary report.

The authors note "As with all participant-reported surveillance systems, mistakes in completion of v-safe health surveys occur.

The registry data are preliminary, are from a small sample, and describe mostly neonatal outcomes from third-trimester vaccination; the findings may change as additional pregnancy outcomes are reported and the sample size increases, which may facilitate detection of rare outcomes.

We were unable to evaluate adverse outcomes that might occur in association with exposures earlier in pregnancy, such as congenital anomalies, because no pregnant persons who were vaccinated early in pregnancy have had live births captured in the v-safe pregnancy registry to date; follow-up is ongoing.

In addition, the proportion of pregnant persons who reported spontaneous abortion may not reflect true postvaccination proportions because participants might have been vaccinated after the period of greatest risk in the first trimester, and very early pregnancy losses might not be recognized. Whereas some pregnancies with vaccination in the first and early second trimester have been completed, the majority are ongoing, and a direct comparison of outcomes on the basis of timing of vaccination is needed to define the proportion of spontaneous abortions in this cohort. Because of sample-size constraints, both pregnancy and neonatal outcomes were calculated as a proportion instead of a rate.

Our preliminary analysis uses participant-reported data and has limited information on other potential risk factors for adverse pregnancy and neonatal outcomes. The VAERS is subject to the limitations of passive surveillance.12 Despite EUA mandatory reporting requirements and CDC guidance on VAERS reporting, there is probably substantial underreporting of pregnancy- and neonatal-specific adverse events. We also do not know the total number of Covid-19 vaccine doses administered to pregnant persons, which further limits our ability to estimate rates of reported adverse events from VAERS data.

Among pregnancy-specific conditions reported to the VAERS after Covid-19 vaccination, miscarriage was the most common. This is similar to what was observed during the influenza A (H1N1) pandemic in 2009 after the introduction of the 2009 H1N1 inactivated influenza vaccine, where miscarriage was the most common adverse event reported by pregnant persons who received that vaccine.



Preliminary Findings of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Pregnant Persons

From December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021, we used data from the “v-safe after vaccination health checker” surveillance system, the v-safe pregnancy registry, and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to characterize the initial safety of mRNA Covid-19 vaccines in pregnant persons.

A total of 35,691 v-safe participants 16 to 54 years of age identified as pregnant when given COVID injections.

Descriptive analyses were performed with the use of v-safe survey data for persons who identified as pregnant through February 28, 2021 (35,691 persons); persons enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry who were vaccinated through February 28, 2021 (3958 persons); and VAERS reports involving pregnant women received through February 28, 2021 (221 persons).

V-SAFE PREGNANCY REGISTRY: PREGNANCY OUTCOMES AND NEONATAL OUTCOMES

As of March 30, 2021, the v-safe pregnancy registry call center attempted to contact 5230 persons who were vaccinated through February 28, 2021, and who identified during a v-safe survey as pregnant at or shortly after Covid-19 vaccination. Of these, 912 were unreachable, 86 declined to participate, and 274 did not meet inclusion criteria.

The registry enrolled 3958 participants with vaccination from December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021, of whom 3719 (94.0%) identified as health care personnel. Among enrolled participants, most were 25 to 44 years of age (98.8%), non-Hispanic White (79.0%), and, at the time of interview, did not report a Covid-19 diagnosis during pregnancy (97.6%).

Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester.

Among 1040 participants (91.9%) who received a vaccine in the first trimester and 1700 (99.2%) who received a vaccine in the second trimester, initial data had been collected and follow-up scheduled at designated time points approximately 10 to 12 weeks apart; limited follow-up calls had been made at the time of this analysis.

Among 827 participants who had a completed pregnancy, the pregnancy resulted in a live birth in 712 (86.1%), in a spontaneous abortion in 104 (12.6%), in stillbirth in 1 (0.1%), and in other outcomes (induced abortion and ectopic pregnancy) in 10 (1.2%).

Among 827 participants who had a completed pregnancy, the pregnancy resulted in a live birth in 712 (86.1%), in a spontaneous abortion in 104 (12.6%), in stillbirth in 1 (0.1%), and in other outcomes (induced abortion and ectopic pregnancy) in 10 (1.2%). A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation.

700 of 712 pregnancies that resulted in a live birth (98.3%) were among persons who received their first eligible vaccine dose in the third trimester. Adverse outcomes among 724 live-born infants — including 12 sets of multiple gestation — were preterm birth (60 of 636 among those vaccinated before 37 weeks [9.4%]), small size for gestational age (23 of 724 [3.2%]), and major congenital anomalies (16 of 724 [2.2%]); no neonatal deaths were reported at the time of interview.

Among the participants with completed pregnancies who reported congenital anomalies, none had received Covid-19 vaccine in the first trimester or periconception period

ADVERSE-EVENT FINDINGS ON THE VAERS
During the analysis period, the VAERS received and processed 221 reports involving Covid-19 vaccination among pregnant persons; 155 (70.1%) involved nonpregnancy-specific adverse events, and 66 (29.9%) involved pregnancy- or neonatal-specific adverse events. The most frequently reported pregnancy-related adverse events were spontaneous abortion (46 cases; 37 in the first trimester, 2 in the second trimester, and 7 in which the trimester was unknown or not reported), followed by stillbirth, premature rupture of membranes, and vaginal bleeding, with 3 reports for each.
 
Could be exponential growth amongst the rest who took it a little more casually once they thought the problem would be solved

I doubt the testing in India is that thorough
Says he based on nothing. ;)Look at the evidence and it's not just on India.
 
Why are they relying on O2 for severe patients when it hasn't been recommended treatment for almost a year?

"The hospital had 4,000 cubic tons of oxygen on Friday morning that he said will last four to five hours if they use it “judiciously.”

How on earth can one hospital get through 1,000 tons of oxygen AN HOUR?

Propaganda fearmongering going on in this article.

There has been a cumulative total of 16 million cases with 15 million recovered and the sharp increased of deaths per day has only occurred after the COVID injections started to be given. Herd immunity reached for original infection as seen in previous graphs, but as in many other countries this is a new mutant correlated with COVID injections.

65% of infections in Delhi being under 40, is not related at all to the ages of people that die. Doesn't say how many young people are in hospital and only gives a biased picture when the facts show the steep increase in cases and deaths is directly correlated to COVID injections. Even then, deaths of 1000 a day is only one death per 13.9 million people!

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More misinformation- major season for Winter viruses in India is Jan - March which is exactly what the graph shows. Nothing to do with the jabs.
Add this rubbish to the graph for Portugal posted earlier.
Embarrassing gullibility by you guys.

 
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Catfish Alley Canada banned AZ for under 55s, but looking at their data it looks like this was based on reports from the many other mainly European countries that have reported the accepted rare thrombosis as it's hardly been administered to anyone in Canada.

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Similar rare vaccine related blood problems have been reported in the UK, US and EU adverse effect systems, but Pfizer has refused so far to say they're connected to their injection. Also there are many thousands (10,000 in Europe for AZ ad Pfizer) of abnormal thrombosis (normal kind) and blood problems, reported in the same systems that the makers haven't taken responsibility for causing.

Canada seems to have started up it's adverse effect reporting recently.


Interesting as in most countries the numbers of total deaths in Canada for 2020, is the same or less than in previous years, so what pandemic?

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Interesting as in most countries the numbers of total deaths in Canada for 2020, is the same or less than in previous years, so what pandemic?
Your problem is that you are using ACTUAL death numbers, if you were using the nebulous EXCESS death numbers you could almost make a case for a very mild pandemic
 
Republican senator claims there’s ‘no reason to be pushing’ Covid vaccines
Ron Johnson, who has no medical expertise or background, made comments during interview with conservative talk radio host
“For the very young, I see no reason to be pushing vaccines on people.” Johnson said. “I certainly am going to vigorously resist any kind of government use or imposing of vaccine passports … That could be a very freedom-robbing step and people need to understand these things.”





County executive Tom NelsonNelson tweeted that Johnson’s “scientifically illiterate beliefs are deadly and will only prolong the Covid crisis.
Time for a new Senator.”

State treasurer Sarah Godlewski also condemned Johnson, saying he “is literally campaigning against widespread vaccines.
His denial of science isn’t just irresponsible, it’s downright dangerous, and Wisconsinites deserve so much better.”


 
What's it like in Europe?
Not sure about western Europe but in the east, a lot of people here know the whole thing is bullshit.

Few people bother to wear masks and those that do, wear them under their nose.

Rare to see somebody wearing a mask over their nose anywhere.
 
Not sure about western Europe but in the east, a lot of people here know the whole thing is bullshit.

Few people bother to wear masks and those that do, wear them under their nose.

Rare to see somebody wearing a mask over their nose anywhere.
Eastern Europe knows what totalitarian looks like from first hand experience. I hope they all have the energy to fight back yet again
 
“Unprecedented strain on health services”

Get ****ed.

 

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Catfish Alley Canada banned AZ for under 55s, but looking at their data it looks like this was based on reports from the many other mainly European countries that have reported the accepted rare thrombosis as it's hardly been administered to anyone in Canada.

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Similar rare vaccine related blood problems have been reported in the UK, US and EU adverse effect systems, but Pfizer has refused so far to say they're connected to their injection. Also there are many thousands (10,000 in Europe for AZ ad Pfizer) of abnormal thrombosis (normal kind) and blood problems, reported in the same systems that the makers haven't taken responsibility for causing.

Canada seems to have started up it's adverse effect reporting recently.


Interesting as in most countries the numbers of total deaths in Canada for 2020, is the same or less than in previous years, so what pandemic?

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Yeah, they opened it up to everyone over 40 a little while ago. I’m 41 and had the AZ vaccine on Tuesday.
 
Republican senator claims there’s ‘no reason to be pushing’ Covid vaccines
Ron Johnson, who has no medical expertise or background, made comments during interview with conservative talk radio host
“For the very young, I see no reason to be pushing vaccines on people.” Johnson said. “I certainly am going to vigorously resist any kind of government use or imposing of vaccine passports … That could be a very freedom-robbing step and people need to understand these things.”





County executive Tom NelsonNelson tweeted that Johnson’s “scientifically illiterate beliefs are deadly and will only prolong the Covid crisis.
Time for a new Senator.”

State treasurer Sarah Godlewski also condemned Johnson, saying he “is literally campaigning against widespread vaccines.
His denial of science isn’t just irresponsible, it’s downright dangerous, and Wisconsinites deserve so much better.”


Good grief. Not much extrapolation there.
 
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