Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[yebiga]

Its because we don’t censor that posts need to be challenged for their veracity.
Are you happy to be sucked in by the charts on Saturday?
I proved the claims were wrong and if one person breathed a sigh of relief then I’ve done my job.
You sit around pontificating on censorship but don’t have the balls to acknowledge that there’s a lot of rubbish and scare mongering on this forum that deserves challenge.

And spare me the “ what about msm”.

This sums up your posts here

 

[No SPIN]

You proved that you understand very little
Except to make ambit claims
this the 10th successive post where you claim to have proven something no one noticed. White noise

"no one noticed" serves your narrative.

The people who put up the graphs were silenced. Why?
Clearly because they couldn't defend the indefensible.

That's job done, as far as I,m concerned.

You gullibility in accepting these lies, says a lot about your lack of insight.

Clearly you are just one of many happy to accept everything thrown up to you by your brethren - which is ironic given how you chose to hammer msm peddling misinformation.
So you consider yourself a thinker in not accepting MSM, but accept the lies of posters here. And worse, have the gall to challenge me for exposing the lies.

I think that sums up your hypocrisy perfectly.

 

[Lethal Knights]

Troubling

 

[yebiga]

"no one noticed" serves your narrative.

The people who put up the graphs were silenced. Why?
Clearly because they couldn't defend the indefensible.

That's job done, as far as I,m concerned.

You gullibility in accepting these lies, says a lot about your lack of insight.

Clearly you are just one of many happy to accept everything thrown up to you by your brethren - which is ironic given how you chose to hammer msm peddling misinformation.
So you consider yourself a thinker in not accepting MSM, but accept the lies of posters here. And worse, have the gall to challenge me for exposing the lies.

I think that sums up your hypocrisy perfectly.

 

[yebiga]

"no one noticed" serves your narrative.

The people who put up the graphs were silenced. Why?
Clearly because they couldn't defend the indefensible.

That's job done, as far as I,m concerned.

You gullibility in accepting these lies, says a lot about your lack of insight.

Clearly you are just one of many happy to accept everything thrown up to you by your brethren - which is ironic given how you chose to hammer msm peddling misinformation.
So you consider yourself a thinker in not accepting MSM, but accept the lies of posters here. And worse, have the gall to challenge me for exposing the lies.

I think that sums up your hypocrisy perfectly.

 

[Bender20]

Interesting , from the UK government adverse reaction site.

The MHRA has played an active role in responding to the coronavirus pandemic. In relation to COVID-19 vaccines, the MHRA has authorised their supply following a rigorous review of their safety, quality and efficacy. The clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines have shown them to be effective and acceptably safe; however, as part of its statutory functions, the MHRA is responsible for monitoring these vaccines on an ongoing basis to ensure their benefits continue to outweigh any risks.

A rigorous review?
The drugs are still being tested, there is missing data that needs to be presented, including studies of blind trials.

There has been no data presented so far regarding the contents (safety)which some have never been used before. This data needs to be presented within the next few months.

Stability of the vaccine, no data has been produced as to the stability, batch quality and consistency over many producing plants.

Effective, well talk of the 3rd and the seasonal shots basically answers that.

Acceptably safe. Well here's a new one, it use to be safe, now they term it acceptably safe. Who determines acceptable, and what is deemed acceptable.

MHRA is responsible, MHRA isnt even investigating deaths and serious side effects, where is the responsibility.

MHRA are active, yes actively gaslighting with BS like this.

 

[Bender20]

How things could have got for Perth. This is the governments predictive modelling

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The blue line is how things went. Weird that, it's so wicked and contagious and dangerous and super duper mutant

Computer modelling is very ummmm clairvoyant.

 

[No SPIN]

Well, the facts are that the virus originated in China, whether in a lab or a market the laughingly named "WHO investigative team" were unable to establish; China immediately stopped internal travel but allowed plane loads of their people to travel to Italy, Australia, USA and elsewhere before inbound flights were banned by those countries - against the advice of the WHO on the grounds of discrimination ie racism.

In a country of 1.4 billion, where the virus allegedly started, their extreme lockdown measures (or cooking the books) have resulted in a mere 90,000 cases and 4600 deaths. Can we believe this?

Deliberately started the virus? I lean towards no, but there's no doubt they are taking full advantage of the situation to put pressure on the rest of the world, economically and strategically. The disarray of the US must be music to their ears.

Recommend this book:

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Thanks for the recommendation - I've seen the book previously
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Is there much difference between China's Geo Political strategy and that of the USA in the last 50 years?

Clearly not - the World is getting paranoid because they feel this growth of influence by a Communist Power bodes ill in the long term.

Time will tell - but lets be clear that China has much more to gain with peace in the World than War, which is so often seen as the inevitable consequence of their growing influence. When was the last time China went to War - apart from assistance in Nth Korea?

I see the posturing between US and China as just that - posturing and playing to a domestic audience.

China is a very pragmatic Country, they understand co-operation and not confrontation with the West serves their best interests.

 

[BlueE]

Troubling

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Yeah, but they said that was normal.

Better than the other headlines on that study that they say you can give the injections to pregnant women, because they said they studied 36,000 women and had no unexpected results.

However the survey started with 5000, lost 1000 before reporting (couldn't contact them or they didn't want to continue), only reported on 800 in 3rd trimester, plus miscarriages from first semester group.

Already lost 20% of your sample before reporting which could all have had miscarriages because them didn't follow them up. Still waiting for the comprehensive animal studies and mice pregnancy studies they started but choose not to report on.

 

[No SPIN]

I accept your white flag

 

[yebiga]

I accept your white flag


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[Dogs_R_Us]

Thanks for the recommendation - I've seen the book previously
.
Is there much difference between China's Geo Political strategy and that of the USA in the last 50 years?

Clearly not - the World is getting paranoid because they feel this growth of influence by a Communist Power bodes ill in the long term.

Time will tell - but lets be clear that China has much more to gain with peace in the World than War, which is so often seen as the inevitable consequence of their growing influence. When was the last time China went to War - apart from assistance in Nth Korea?

I see the posturing between US and China as just that - posturing and playing to a domestic audience.

China is a very pragmatic Country, they understand co-operation and not confrontation with the West serves their best interests.

Is there much difference between Communism and Democracy? We shouldn't make the mistake of assuming they are "just people like us" - they are not (I'm talking about the CCP of course). It's in the Western nature to want to give people the benefit of the doubt so we are ripe to be taken advantage of. Hence China banning our exports then claiming victimhood.

We'll see how the posturing regarding the South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong plays out.

 

[No SPIN]

Troubling

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No - just more misinformation - see quotes below from the study.

"the proportions of adverse pregnancy and neonatal outcomes (e.g., fetal loss, preterm birth, small size for gestational age, congenital anomalies, and neonatal death) among participants with completed pregnancies from the v-safe pregnancy registry appear to be similar to the published incidences in pregnant populations studied before the Covid-19 pandemic."

AND

"Early data from the v-safe surveillance system, the v-safe pregnancy registry, and the VAERS do not indicate any obvious safety signals with respect to pregnancy or neonatal outcomes associated with Covid-19 vaccination in the third trimester of pregnancy"

Trying to be selective, while at the same time ignoring the conclusions by the authors is so transparent.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104983

 

[zill]

Clearly not - the World is getting paranoid because they feel this growth of influence by a Communist Power bodes ill in the long term.

You are aware of the things that happen in china aren't you? Concentration camps, organ harvesting, oppression of ethnic minorities not to mention the social credit score and mass censorship. If you aren't worried about them you are naive.

 

[faible]

Hence China banning our exports then claiming victimhood.

This isn't 4D chess. China knows we well and truly need them more than they need us. Unlike the US, we're a very easy target for them to stuff around.

 

[zill]

Trying to be selective, while at the same time ignoring the conclusions by the authors is so transparent.

1000 people a day dying of covid in india is seen as the end times, yet more than 30000 die everyday of all causes. By your logic even 5000 a day of covid in india would be within acceptable parameters for death by respiratory illness, but that isn't how it gets framed.

 

[yebiga]

1000 people a day dying of covid in india is seen as the end times, yet more than 30000 die everyday of all causes. By your logic even 5000 a day of covid in india would be within acceptable parameters for death by respiratory illness, but that isn't how it gets framed.

Don't tell No Spin, but there is every chance all of us will die one day.

 

[No SPIN]

Is there much difference between Communism and Democracy? We shouldn't make the mistake of assuming they are "just people like us" - they are not (I'm talking about the CCP of course). It's in the Western nature to want to give people the benefit of the doubt so we are ripe to be taken advantage of. Hence China banning our exports then claiming victimhood.

We'll see how the posturing regarding the South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong plays out.

Hasn't the World benefited from China not imposing Communism in its most draconian and restrictive form?
Which ironically is the basis, for optimism not paranoia about its from of Communism.

The version of Communism we see today in China could never have been imagined 50 years ago - nor its engagement with the World.
This Capitalist version of Communism, is a clearly example of pragmatism, China will not cut off its nose to spite its face.

Yes it will posture, it will leverage its power, but will hold back from military confrontation, given its military inferiority compared to the WEST, and that's not to mention the economic impact, which would see them go back to a serfdom.

 

[No SPIN]

1000 people a day dying of covid in india is seen as the end times, yet more than 30000 die everyday of all causes. By your logic even 5000 a day of covid in india would be within acceptable parameters for death by respiratory illness, but that isn't how it gets framed.

1255 people died of Flu in Australia in 2019, and I didn' bat an eye lid.

 

[Bender20]

1255 people died of Flu in Australia in 2019, and I didn' bat an eye lid.

That's Bat and Pangolin an eye lid.

 

[No SPIN]

You are aware of the things that happen in china aren't you? Concentration camps, organ harvesting, oppression of ethnic minorities not to mention the social credit score and mass censorship. If you aren't worried about them you are naive.

I never said they were perfect - maybe you should go and tell BHP, RIO to stop selling them iron ore.
Let's ban all Chinese students.
The world is far more complicated than you appreciate or chose to understand.

 

[burge13]

1255 people died of Flu in Australia in 2019, and I didn' bat an eye lid.

Lucky covid cured the flu then, no one gets it anymore! What a tremendous virus

 

[Hawk Dork]

Lucky covid cured the flu then, no one gets it anymore! What a tremendous virus

its amazing that the lesser flu gets knocked over for a season when people wash their hands, WFH , lock down, wear masks,reduce flying and socially distance ....maybe to a half wit ?

 

[zill]

1255 people died of Flu in Australia in 2019, and I didn' bat an eye lid.

More dissembling, apparently it's all you can do.

 

[No SPIN]

More dissembling, apparently it's all you can do.

You're free to point out anything misleading or untrue that I've posted - that you have never done speaks volumes about your unfounded accusations.