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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%
  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%

  • Total voters
    74

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This might have already been posted, but why has the WA government authorised the defence force to administer a poison (COVID - 19 vaccine)?

Instrument of Authorisation – Authorisation to Supply or Administer a Poison [SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) VACCINE – Australian Defence Force]


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Western Australia has some seriously ****ed up laws when you delve deep into it
 
Western Australia has some seriously f’ed up laws when you delve deep into it

That's just one of the legislative instruments that was used or looked at. Vaccines, medicines, drugs come under the umbrella of poisons generally and according to their class or schedule, dictate how they're to be managed, stored and who can have them, with or without a prescription etc.

This was always going to be complicated because it's a new thing but I don't think that's anything to be alarmed about.
 

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Again you are being completely disingenuous- the disease the patient ultimately succumbs to is listed as the cause of death. It always was and always will be.
A terminal Cancer patient who dies from pneumonia does not have Cancer listed as the cause of death - logically it says Pneumonia.
No different with COVID, so stop the misinformation.

And further -,let’s assume you are right - why have these deaths, incorrectly attributed to COVID as you say, stopped in Australia?
Did someone send an email to all Doctor telling them the quota for COVID deaths has been met, and to resume the normal method of reporting.
Clearly not - so Your theory is illogical and completely inane.
Incorrect. You’re guessing, while I posted the links, .pdfs and you should be able to find the rest, try reading them and stop pretending. The WHO International and Australian codes and descriptions for using COVID-19 as a cause of death are directives issued early last year, still in force, but even when applied correctly boost COVID numbers. But because spinner has no idea he has to say it’s misinformation!

If a patient succumbs to pneumonia and they’ve tested positive to COVID or even just had symptoms like

• R05 Cough

• R06.02 Shortness of breath

• R50.9 Fever, unspecified

Or they’re asymptomatic, have no symptoms but have a positive test from a high cycle PCR and die of pneumonia, acute bronchitis or Lower respiratory infection, assign code U07.1, COVID-19 as cause of death.

Johns Hopkins statistical analysis in October last year suggested that heart attacks, strokes and influenza causes of death had gone down I the same numbers as COIVD – 19 had gone up as cause of death.

Australia has the same set of rules, but hasn’t had many COVID deaths. All of the cruise ship ones seemed develop into the serious inflammatory stage very quickly and there’s no question they didn’t have positive tests for COVID-19.

Ave age of all COVID deaths was 88 and many of the aged case home deaths had co-morbidities, but COVID-19 the given as the cause of death for all.

GUIDELINES FOR CERTIFYING COVID-19 AS A CAUSE OF DEATH - RECORDING COVID-19 ON THE MEDICAL CERTIFICATE OF CAUSE OF DEATH COVID-19

According to ABS Guidance for Certifying Deaths due to COVID-19 updated 25th March 2020, WHO issued emergency advice as to how to certify deaths.

WHO issued advice that with underlying causes such as pneumonia with COVID 19, both should be written as underlying causes but new code U07.1 COVID-19 should be written as the on the death certificate as the cause of death and counted as a COVID-19 death.

Not just death from pneumonia but these other clinical infections except obstetrics which COVID is not counted as the cause but contributing.

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The Nursing home deaths all rely on a PCR of 36 or 37 cycles recommended in Australia by the Doherty Institute. The Doherty Inst also recommended as per the PCR manufacturers recommendations, retesting COVID positive samples against influenza, rhinovirus and other corona viruses because these could have been the correct diagnosis. This is unlikely to have been done as there were only 2 deaths from flu after April 23rd last 2020, so some of the COVID patients could have had flu.

There is the possibility that other corona viruses or flu could have been responsible for pneumonia and other respiratory infections when in the past they would have been coded as the cause of death and not COVID 19.

It’s very unusual that pneumonia deaths in Australia were down by over 1000 in 2020 compared to previous years. COVID -19 plus flu plus pneumonia deaths were down by 2000 compared to flu and pneumonia in 2019 and 2017
 
so let’s think about the irony - the PCR would be fine, notwithstanding this problem ( because there’s no alternative technology for mass screening) if we had a Pandemic according to the authors definition.

But because this is not a Pandemic according to his definition, then the test is a problem.
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No. Not only isn't it fine for measuring if a person is contagious or has recovered from SARS CoV 2, as it will show both as being positive depending on the ct cycle, and falsely add to what countries are calling positive cases of COIVD.

The Nobel prize winning inventor of PCR test clearly said it should not be used as a screening test for viral infections. If Wuhan had given a sample of the original virus to the rest of the would, then any sick people could be tested to see if they had that virus or if the infection was cause by flu or other corona viruses, but they didn't.

The PCR test (with up to 90 or 100% of false positives at high replications), contributed to the problem of declaring a fake pandemic, which is what I think you said?
 
Documents from Pfizer, Johns Hopkins and others discuss the potential for COVID-19 vaccines to “self-spread” to non-vaccinated individuals coming in contact with a recently vaccinated person.

In fact, a 2018 Johns Hopkins, Bloomsburg School of Public Health report, floated the idea of using this type of vaccine to intentionally spread to others for “protection” against disease.

Under the section, “Self-Spreading Vaccines,” on page 47, the Johns Hopkins document states, “Self spreading vaccines are genetically engineered to move through populations like communicable diseases, but rather than causing disease, they confer protection. The vision is that a small number of individuals in a target population could be vaccinated, and the vaccine strain would then circulate in the population much like a pathogenic virus, resulting in rapid, widespread immunity.”

The paper admits self-spreading vaccines being implemented would come with challenges, such as “informed consent” and potentially life-threatening contraindications.


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The daily tally of coronavirus deaths within 28 days of a positive test is likely to be dropped after scientific advisers warned the Government it will become an increasingly inaccurate measure of the pandemic and vaccine success.

 
Incorrect. You’re guessing, while I posted the links, .pdfs and you should be able to find the rest, try reading them and stop pretending. The WHO International and Australian codes and descriptions for using COVID-19 as a cause of death are directives issued early last year, still in force, but even when applied correctly boost COVID numbers. But because spinner has no idea he has to say it’s misinformation!

If a patient succumbs to pneumonia and they’ve tested positive to COVID or even just had symptoms like

• R05 Cough

• R06.02 Shortness of breath

• R50.9 Fever, unspecified

Or they’re asymptomatic, have no symptoms but have a positive test from a high cycle PCR and die of pneumonia, acute bronchitis or Lower respiratory infection, assign code U07.1, COVID-19 as cause of death.

Johns Hopkins statistical analysis in October last year suggested that heart attacks, strokes and influenza causes of death had gone down I the same numbers as COIVD – 19 had gone up as cause of death.

Australia has the same set of rules, but hasn’t had many COVID deaths. All of the cruise ship ones seemed develop into the serious inflammatory stage very quickly and there’s no question they didn’t have positive tests for COVID-19.

Ave age of all COVID deaths was 88 and many of the aged case home deaths had co-morbidities, but COVID-19 the given as the cause of death for all.

GUIDELINES FOR CERTIFYING COVID-19 AS A CAUSE OF DEATH - RECORDING COVID-19 ON THE MEDICAL CERTIFICATE OF CAUSE OF DEATH COVID-19

According to ABS Guidance for Certifying Deaths due to COVID-19 updated 25th March 2020, WHO issued emergency advice as to how to certify deaths.

WHO issued advice that with underlying causes such as pneumonia with COVID 19, both should be written as underlying causes but new code U07.1 COVID-19 should be written as the on the death certificate as the cause of death and counted as a COVID-19 death.

Not just death from pneumonia but these other clinical infections except obstetrics which COVID is not counted as the cause but contributing.

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The Nursing home deaths all rely on a PCR of 36 or 37 cycles recommended in Australia by the Doherty Institute. The Doherty Inst also recommended as per the PCR manufacturers recommendations, retesting COVID positive samples against influenza, rhinovirus and other corona viruses because these could have been the correct diagnosis. This is unlikely to have been done as there were only 2 deaths from flu after April 23rd last 2020, so some of the COVID patients could have had flu.

There is the possibility that other corona viruses or flu could have been responsible for pneumonia and other respiratory infections when in the past they would have been coded as the cause of death and not COVID 19.

It’s very unusual that pneumonia deaths in Australia were down by over 1000 in 2020 compared to previous years. COVID -19 plus flu plus pneumonia deaths were down by 2000 compared to flu and pneumonia in 2019 and 2017

sorry sport - I’m not guessing.
If a terminal Cancer Patients dies due to pneumonia, the cause of death is listed as pneumonia, not Cancer. Cancer is listed as underlying disease.

In time you’ll see this first hand, as I have.

And again I repeat - if there is conspiracy- then when we’re Doctors told to stop listing COVID as the cause of death in Aust. given we’ve had one death in six months?

So you are peddling misinformation, there is no directive to misclassify deaths from other causes, as COVID deaths.

But why should we be surprised you’ve peddled misinformation falsely claiming graphs show something they don’t, per my rebuttal.
Insisted mRNA Vaccines cause permanent genetic change which I again debunked.
So why should we be surprised you’re at it again.
 
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No. Not only isn't it fine for measuring if a person is contagious or has recovered from SARS CoV 2, as it will show both as being positive depending on the ct cycle, and falsely add to what countries are calling positive cases of COIVD.

The Nobel prize winning inventor of PCR test clearly said it should not be used as a screening test for viral infections. If Wuhan had given a sample of the original virus to the rest of the would, then any sick people could be tested to see if they had that virus or if the infection was cause by flu or other corona viruses, but they didn't.

The PCR test (with up to 90 or 100% of false positives at high replications), contributed to the problem of declaring a fake pandemic, which is what I think you said?

read my post again - it’s got nothing to do with the veracity of the test.
 
When is the world going to be told that obesity makes people extremely vulnerable to covid? It’s cruel but statistics on body types of fatalities would be an interesting read.
 

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He provided a couple of reasons for his argument. One of these was the limited vaccine factories across the world. Another was the process of transferring the technology itself, which would not be very effective without the "grants" and "expertise" that the US has, as per Gates.

Both vague, uninspiring reasons and not true to the slightest of thought. But even if you start to consider them as legit challenges, it is what Gates said in the midst that ticked off the deafest of ears.

Moving something that had never been done moving a vaccine from say a J&J factory into a factory in India, that, it's novel."

India? Really? Had Gates not mentioned a specific country in his comment, he might have had a chance to get away with the comment. But considering that the country has the highest production capacity of vaccines in the world, the comment lost its credibility almost immediately.

The fact that India is a vaccine manufacturing hub is known to the world. At the start of this year, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres hailed the country's vaccine production capacity as "the best asset that the world has today" in the fight against Covid-19. The backbone of this production is, anyway, a technology transfer between SII and AstraZeneca and not an individual effort to come up with a magic solution. So how Gates can point this out as a challenge is anybody's guess.

A report by Australian Fair Trade & Investment Network Ltd (AFTINET) points out the involvement of Gates through his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation towards the partnership of the University of Oxford with AstraZeneca to deliver its Covid-19 vaccine candidate to the countries across the world. The report mentions that this was a major reason for the exclusive license controlled distribution of the vaccine instead of an open distribution model for any manufacturer.

What a absolute piece of covid tested excrement. So much for vaccines not being about money huh guys
 
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The daily tally of coronavirus deaths within 28 days of a positive test is likely to be dropped after scientific advisers warned the Government it will become an increasingly inaccurate measure of the pandemic and vaccine success.

But the people who were criticising that measure from day dot were conspiracy theorists :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, personally not into body shaming either to be honest. Their body so do what you want. That's been a popular sentiment in this thread.

I agree, i just want the commentary to be consistent. Instead of blaming a 19 year old for not wearing a face mask, why not blame yourself for weighing 200kgs and having no immune system instead
 

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Yeah, personally not into body shaming either to be honest. Their body so do what you want. That's been a popular sentiment in this thread.
I'm not into body shaming either, but the idea that obese = healthy is just dangerously wrong.
 
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