Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[MrKK]

What’s it with you SJW’s wanting to tax the sh*t out of everything? I couldn’t care less about what people do to their bodies. They just need to accept the fact that being obese will kill them.

It's the overriding mindset that the government should be responsible for managing every bit of our lives. Concepts of liberty and the associated personal responsibility just don't compute with these people.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

I keep asking the question, why is there still 8,000 in India? Have they left the country in the last 12 months and now want to return?

I think some have been stuck there for over a year. Even without the ban it's been quite hard to return from anywhere. The two people I know that have come back have both got back in on compassionate grounds. Having said that, I hear stories about inconsistency, that is some being allowed to come in while others aren't. I mean the actors, tennis players and so on are a perfect example.

 

[GuzzLG]

Anti-vax doctor dies from COVID

A doctor in Kenya who advised citizens against getting vaccinated has died from coronavirus.

www.news.com.au

Lol, nice try MSM

 

[No SPIN]

How the fu** am I back tracking on death certificates? I've made my point 10 different ways, backed up by WHO, ABS and Doherty Inst., when you can't even understand how Dr's were informed of codes and descriptions for classifying COVID-19, and didn't believe they were. The only example you can come up with is when someone has cancer and pneumonia which had nothing to do with COIVD??

We started talking about the COIVD injections as "experimental gene therapy" as Drs Cole and Urso called them. You came in guns blazing saying this is bs and "the fact remains that there is NO evidence that mRNA alter genes - NONE. Why? Because it's biochemically impossible without a Gene Editing system like CRISPR in the vaccine."

There are many types of gene therapy and you provided information on one type of patented genetic editing you're fixated on, but you haven't related it to the genetically modified organisms created by Oxford AZ, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer or Moderna because none of those companies have published what the genetic information or the make up of their spike proteins that their injections contain. No one knows.
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When asked what he thought of safety and efficacy with the new mRNA technology, Dr Urso calls the injections "experimental gene therapy" then shows a video of how the corona virus enters the cells through spike proteins and how mRNA injections work. The video is good factual summary so not sure what wrong with that.

You accuse me in your reply of saying "mRNA is a Gene editing system" You even put quotation marks around this quote to somehow convince yourself that's what I said. But I didn’t say that, the Dr's didn’t say that and it’s only you in your head that made it up, because that’s what you do. Then you demand that I explain how mRNA can edit genes without CRISPER, which is only something you've said.

You get told again and again what was said originally by Dr's Cole and Urso who called the injections “experimental gene therapy" and "Experimental, biological, gene therapy, immune modulatory injection. We're injecting people with a synthetic sequence of mRNA that's been shown to cause severe adverse effects in previous animal studies." Data is missing long term data, not independent or available for peer review.

All this is true, but you have not read those comprehensive animal studies resulting from previous mRNA vaccines that were never approved for human use. There haven't been comprehensive animal studies done or reported on for the current COVID injections, with the closest being the mice pregnancy study which they chose not to report on, only saying it's "on going".

Conspiracy Theory - Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

Seems North Korea isnt the Covid Free Paradise it claimed to be https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/01/foreign-diplomat-collective-exit-from-north-korea-russian-embassy-staff-strict-covid-restrictions

www.bigfooty.com

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You asked for the mechanism that a mRNA vaccine could change DNA and there is research in pre print, that shows "plausible molecular pathways as to how mRNA vaccines permanently altering your genomic DNA could occur".

SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome - PubMed

Prolonged SARS-CoV-2 RNA shedding and recurrence of PCR-positive tests have been widely reported in patients after recovery, yet these patients most commonly are non-infectious. Here we investigated the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

To experimentally corroborate the possibility of viral retro-integration, we describe evidence that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed and there are viable cellular pathways to explain how this happens.

Segments of SARS-CoV-2 Viral RNA can become integrated into human genomic DNA.

Human endogenous LINE-1 expression was induced upon SARS-CoV-2 infection or by cytokine exposure in cultured cells, suggesting a molecular mechanism for SARS-CoV-2 retro-integration in patients.

Depending on the integrated viral fragments, insertion sites in the human genome and an individual’s underlying health status, could include a more severe immune response, such as an auto immune response.

Don't think I'm going into "my box" if I don't bow to your demands or defend myself from you making stuff up and quoting me saying what you want me to say, because I'm not on this forum all day and night, and I probably have you on ignore.

digressing into irrelevant issues doesnt changes the fact that you insisted mRNA Vaccine cause PERMANENT Genetic changes.
You couldn’t prove it - and relied on a paper about the WHOLE Virus causing temporary genetic insertion explaining prolonged virus shredding in some patients.
Fact: mRNA Vaccine in NOT the whole Virus
Fact: The effect was NOT permanent.

Now your refuge is “we don’t know” - but the science is on my side that we actually DO know.
FACT: There is no Gene editing mechanism like CRISPR in the Vaccine - end of story.

You keep quoting experts but none offer the evidence to support your misinformation otherwise you would have quoted the specific research accordingly.

So the debate was over 2 weeks ago - and nothing has changed other than your attempts to continually move the goal posts to save face.

 

[Hawk Dork]

It's the overriding mindset that the government should be responsible for managing every bit of our lives. Concepts of liberty and the associated personal responsibility just don't compute with these people.

We see how the US health system works when Governments arent as involved same with their education systems

 

[No SPIN]

Did you even watch the video?

People were not fooled by misinformation back then helped by there still being enough independent reporting out there to highlight doctors telling the truth and calling out a fake pandemic. And like SARS 1, swine flu disappeared without mass vaccinations.

Mass vaccination with a rushed experimental injection caused many serious adverse events and deaths in 2009, but only a fraction of what's occurring now and was stopped with countries owing hundreds of million to manufacturers for injections they had to buy and in compensation, although that taken years to resolve.

They learned from their mistakes and now the media is fully compliant, WHO helped in declaring a pandemic with no criteria, and death classifications that didn't involve inaccurate tests or any tests at all, along with being able to classify other respiratory problems as COVID and governments and manufacturers of vaccines are indemnified.

Not fooled by misinformation back then?
Video below is being edited and circulated TODAY as if it’s been made recently but was done in back then.
Same misinformation- chips in wrist bands, forced vaccination including via military personnel.

 

[MrKK]

We see how the US health system works when Governments arent as involved same with their education systems

Having a well-funded public health system available when people choose/need it is not incompatible with respecting personal liberty.

 

[No SPIN]

Yeah, yeah, Barbara Loe Fischer is an easy target for the pro-jabbers, but still...crikey

Seeing Through the COVID-19 Spin
Posted: 4/26/2021

https://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/April-2021/covid-spin.aspx

'At dinner time, if you turn on any major television network in the U.S., you will see that the evening news has turned into one long COVID vaccine commercial infused with a heavy dose of fear mongering......

Billions of Dollars Paid to TV Networks for DTC Pharma Ads...
We should not be surprised. The U.S. and New Zealand are the only two countries in the world that allow direct to consumer pharmaceutical product advertising. In the US, Big Pharma pays US television networks five billion dollars per year to push use of drugs and vaccines........

Taking a page out of Big Tobacco’s old book and upping the ante, Big Pharma has become a business partner of government.19 The COVID business deal is perhaps the single biggest one in the history of public health programs......

Big Pharma Pays Big Tech Billions of Dollars for Ads, Censorship Campaigns
If you are searching for relief from the hype by turning off the TV and turning on your computer, you will be disappointed. The COVID vaccine ad campaign is in high gear online, especially on social media platforms. The Thought Police hired by Big Tech to censor information that does not conform with pre-approved pandemic narratives are making sure you do not have an opportunity to carefully weigh the vaccine’s benefits and risks.......

where were the howls of protest with Big Pharmas adds on TV for the last 10 -15 years - now all of a sudden it’s an issue, for Conspiracists as if these adds never existed before COVID.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Having a well-funded public health system available when people choose/need it is not incompatible with respecting personal liberty.

You need to exchange some of your liberties if you have a collective system

In the US some states allow you to drive a motorbike without a helmet because they have a very privatised health system.

Mask wearing,lockdown and vaccination is also part of the price for having Medicare but also for a functioning economy

 

[MrKK]

You need to exchange some of your liberties if you have a collective system

In the US some states allow you to drive a motorbike without a helmet because they have a very privatised health system.

Mask wearing,lockdown and vaccination is also part of the price for having Medicare but also for a functioning economy

I think you've just invented some causative relationships there.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I think you've just invented some causative relationships there.

you dont think we trade liberties for having "free" health care ?

 

[MrKK]

you dont think we trade liberties for having "free" health care ?

The only liberty we trade is to not pay taxes, which isn't something that is practical in any modern society.

You claimed that privatised health systems caused lax motorcycle helmet laws. What evidence for that?

And I don't support the argument that the government providing free healthcare gives them the right to decree masks and lockdowns in the belief that they reduce demand on the health system.

 

[yebiga]

We are further gone than they are. There is large public and even state resistance in the USA. IT's crickets here in Australia. There are large violent protests in parts of Europe barely reported: Paris, Lyon, London and I believe Germany cities. Here, more crickets.

Perhaps, we just don't have the necessary numbers here. In the USA, UK, Europe with larger populations protest groups, alternative movements can still attract sufficient numbers and attract sufficient funds to be viable across time.

If any sanity is to be restored, it will be something that happens in Western Europe or the USA. Russia and China are pre-occupied with an economic and cultural war with the West. The rest of the world has totally surrendered to western entrainment. I had hoped that India may have paved an independent path but they too have surrendered to enslave their people under the cover of the Covidian trap.

Underlying all of our ills, is an pathological acceptance of increasing government powers. Pseudo-issues like race, gender and now covid have legitimised government regulation of our minds.

I think we are all struggling to explain what is really going on. It is little wonder so many dystopian, depopulation and totalitarian control theories are proliferating. To my mind, none of them quite seem real or acheiveable or viable. Of course, that doesn't mean it's not exactly what is going on.

My minimalist explanation is that the mega wealthy, the oligarchs we know like Gates, Bezos and the many we don't know live in a parallel reality, where they will no longer tolerate the messy organic mass of humanity leading the world. They are convinced - at a minimum - that they possess a superior understanding of where life on this planet should head. And, most importantly, their wealth enables them to pressure, bribe, influence governments across most of the world to comply.

This is at least is obvious. I think many, who like us see that the Covid is a hoax, nevertheless believe in the authorities because they believe all of this is for some benevolent plan to save the planet from climate change or over population or some other kumbayah purpose. It's not.

The idea that the wealthiest oligarchs in the world would be possessed by an ethical and benevolent objective is laughable. It is not how they got where they are. And under the cover of a mass of lies, you will suddenly reveal yourself to be the messiah? No, if we are going to draw biblical references then what we have here is the building of new Tower of Babel. They believe themselves to be god. As god, there is nothing they may not choose to do.

Only a god can see the invisible, can cure the invisible, can manipulate the invisible and visible forces at will. By comparison Hitler and Stalin were school yard bullies. These guys wish to control, land, sea, air, mind, money, body and soul. By wearing those masks, injecting those vaccines, enforcing those lockdowns we pay homage to this God. Be in Awe.

 

[Hawk Dork]

The only liberty we trade is to not pay taxes, which isn't something that is practical in any modern society.

You claimed that privatised health systems caused lax motorcycle helmet laws. What evidence for that?

And I don't support the argument that the government providing free healthcare gives them the right to decree masks and lockdowns in the belief that they reduce demand on the health system.

I never said "caused" you did

I suggested when your paying out of your own pocket for health insurance and not out of the publics you have more freedoms to maim your self without being a burden on society
It doesnt give you more freedoms to maim society though

 

[MrKK]

I never said "caused" you did

In the US some states allow you to drive a motorbike without a helmet because they have a very privatised health system.

My emphasis.

 

[yebiga]

you dont think we trade liberties for having "free" health care ?

Free?

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

I am literally lost for words .

I'm feeling perfectly healthy before getting a jab, But then feel like shit for a while & it's a good thing .

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Looks like McClown is still living in fear, couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

What an unbelievable ****ed up country we are, in the best position in the world and yet are acting like we are the worst infected country in the world.

I said early doors in 2020, the rest of the world will move on with life and interact with each other and Australia will be too frightened to join it.

 

[M Malice]

No crowds allowed at the Derby this afternoon, I feel for my WA brothers and sisters, it must be like a scene out of the Walking Dead over there, stay safe my lovelies.

 

[yebiga]

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I am literally lost for words .

Maybe now during an electrical storm, Pete will glow like a lighthouse. Maybe not. But for sure, they have injected Pete with an alien. It will now grow inside of him until it is ready to emerge like a butterfly. No one will know. It's happened no-spin, dork, chief and many others. It's an alien invasion - little alien sperm has been injected into him. Or may be not. If he tried to imagine cutting Bill Gates throat maybe his head will explode. What about a bit of S&M, see if humiliation now makes Pete horny.

 

[maryjames]

 

[ioppolo]

 

[burge13]

Coaches must wear masks in the derby

Camera cuts to coaches boxes, neither wearing them properly, camera quickly cuts away

When will the sheep wake up. None of this garbage matters, get rid of it all you pathetic campaigners

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Looks like McClown is still living in fear, couldn't make this sh*t up if you tried.

What an unbelievable f’ed up country we are, in the best position in the world and yet are acting like we are the worst infected country in the world.

I said early doors in 2020, the rest of the world will move on with life and interact with each other and Australia will be too frightened to join it.

Players on the bench at the WCE Freo derby have to wear masks, they were saying

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Players on the bench at the WCE Freo derby have to wear masks, they were saying

FMD surely not, that state and QLD have lost their collective minds and you wouldn't go there. I was going to go to a game in QLD this year but have now changed that to when the tigers play GWS in Sydney in round 22.