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In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated people it was 561 per 100,000, a more than 10-fold difference. The rates of COVID-19 ICU admissions or deaths peaked in the fortnight 8 September to 21 September at 0.9 per 100,000 in 2-dose vaccinated people compared to 15.6 per 100,000 in unvaccinated people, a greater than 16-fold difference.
 
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Xtreme said:
I thought covid was meant to be a wicked fleeting beast. Yet here we are opening up with it still uncontrolled running rampant.

Great job Dan, the lockdown was pointless
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You gonna come back each day to post the same point in a different way?
 

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I will point out the hypocricy of Daniel Andrews' statements and the back peddling he does on a consistent basis.
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You do have to take in to consideration vaccination levels as well as mortality and hospitalisation rates rather than just say "Oh look, higher case numbers!"
 
I'm reading Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier and wondered what those old English miners would make of today's talk of white supremacy, the wearing of covid masks, mandatory vaccines and the environment.

The typical miner descended a mile or more under the earth - ten at a time in a cage. He or she then crawled or stooped for anywhere from 1 to 3 miles to then begin their seven and a half hour shift. They worked shovelling on their knees during the entire time - the soot and dust reduced visibility to no more than a few feet. They each loaded a tonne of coal every two hour. They took no breaks except to eat some bread and drink some cold tea. tied to their waste. They wore no face masks. The noise of rail carts was perpetually deafening. The threat of cave-ins constant. At the end of their shifts, they again crawled the 1-3 miles and ascended via the cage. On the surface they gargled water to wash away the soot lodged in their throats, they then spent up to an hour washing the grime from the waist up. Often it required 10 minutes to remove it from around their eyes. They did that 6 days a week.

Today, it is impossible to even imagine this miserable life. None of us could survive a single day of just getting to and from their work place. It is astonishing to think of their strength and forbearance and humbling to contrast it with our comforts and cravenous. I can imagine their lot was bearable because they hoped for a better future for their children and the next generation. And so it has come to pass - extraordinary changes have occurred over the last 70-80 years. They did more than could be asked or anyone could expect.

I also fear, we have almost the done the complete opposite - endured nothing and surrendered all in exchange for the most vacuous nonsense.
 
JackOutback said:
Seems suss, but they did the same here in WA and our circumstances haven’t changed. It’s not local factors.
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Oil prices peaking and comparatively lower AUD/USD currency since last time oil prices were this high.
 
JackOutback said:
Seems suss, but they did the same here in WA and our circumstances haven’t changed. It’s not local factors.
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It’s what the petrol companies do in Melbourne. It’s part of our way of life. Prices go up whenever they think there is going to be an increase in demand, then they are reduced slowly over a few weeks until the next big jump upwards.
 
yebiga said:
I'm reading Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier and wondered what those old English miners would make of today's talk of white supremacy, the wearing of covid masks, mandatory vaccines and the environment.

The typical miner descended a mile or more under the earth - ten at a time in a cage. He or she then crawled or stooped for anywhere from 1 to 3 miles to then begin their seven and a half hour shift. They worked shovelling on their knees during the entire time - the soot and dust reduced visibility to no more than a few feet. They each loaded a tonne of coal every two hour. They took no breaks except to eat some bread and drink some cold tea. tied to their waste. They wore no face masks. The noise of rail carts was perpetually deafening. The threat of cave-ins constant. At the end of their shifts, they again crawled the 1-3 miles and ascended via the cage. On the surface they gargled water to wash away the soot lodged in their throats, they then spent up to an hour washing the grime from the waist up. Often it required 10 minutes to remove it from around their eyes. They did that 6 days a week.
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I'm betting if they did all that for a wage then if they were told they needed a vaccine and must wear masks at all times to continue working they would have done it instantly.
 
Taylor said:
They have been throwing it away in QLD from what I've heard. I think the batches of Pfizer we have expire in December so it makes sense to try and make use of them before needing to bin tens of thousands of them. That would really put the nail in the coffin of the blame the fed for the vaccine argument.
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Not sure what the go is there. I haven't heard this.
 

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Chief said:
Not sure what the go is there. I haven't heard this.
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The only thing I read about doses getting thrown out was when anti vaxxers would make multiple appointments so batches got defrosted and not used
 
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hebog said:
It’s what the petrol companies do in Melbourne. It’s part of our way of life. Prices go up whenever they think there is going to be an increase in demand, then they are reduced slowly over a few weeks until the next big jump upwards.
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It's s**t, I had to fill up the other day at 1.83 luckily for me I probably hadn't filled it up in about two months. As s**t as lockdown is, it's been easy to save money because I ain't going anywhere or doing anything.
 
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Covids clogged the public hospitals and insurance is too expensive,,,,so people are paying money to have operations at private hospitals they would usually get for free in public hospitals or through insurance at private hospitals


Thousands more patients are paying to have surgery privately as NHS waiting lists continue growing, new data reveals.

There has been a 30 per cent increase in patients self-funding their operations in private hospitals between April and June this year when compared with the same months in 2019.


Figures from the Private Healthcare Information Network (PHIN), which collects data on private hospital activity for the public, show 65,000 people paid for their treatment privately during the three-month period.


Procedures such as cataract surgery and hip replacements are now more commonly self-funded than paid for through insurance.

For the first half of 2021, self-funded patients made up a third of all the private hospital admissions for the first time.

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Thousands more patients pay for private hospital surgery

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Health authorities are probing a medical clinic in Melbourne’s west after doctors allegedly falsified Covid vaccine passports and granted invalid exemptions.
The Health Department confirmed it was aware of allegations against Ashley Street Medical Centre in Maidstone with the matter referred to the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA).

The small suburban clinic is run by Dr Michael Lee and Dr Eva Wong, who specialise in acupuncture, plasma rich platelet therapy and allergy testing.

A concerned neighbour who did not want to be named said “hundreds” of people had lined up outside the centre in the early hours of the morning until late at night in recent weeks.

“I have no idea what’s going on in the clinic but I noticed from very early in the morning there is a very long queue of people. Even at 3am in the morning they queue up there with sleeping bags and a pillow, they lay down right in front of the clinic,” she said.

The woman attended the centre earlier this month to make an appointment and was given a note by a staff member that read: “Dr Lee cannot see patient who want Covid vaccine (sic) because someone complained to the authorities. He has closed his vaccination centre. Please go to another centre. Sorry.”

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WASHINGTON — Federal regulators evaluated for the first time on Friday the safety and efficacy of a coronavirus vaccine for children 5 to 11, saying that the benefits of staving off Covid-19 with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine generally outweighed the risks of the most worrisome possible side effects in that age group.

The analysis came on the same day that the Food and Drug Administration posted data from Pfizer showing that the vaccine had a 90.7 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 in a clinical trial of 5- to 11-year-olds.

The findings could add momentum for F.D.A. authorization of the pediatric dose on an emergency basis, perhaps as early as next week, opening up a long-awaited new phase of the nation’s vaccination campaign.

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F.D.A. Says Pfizer Vaccine’s Benefits Outweigh Key Risks in Children 5 to 11 (Published 2021)

The findings could add momentum for F.D.A. authorization of the pediatric dose, perhaps as early as next week, a long-awaited development that would affect 28 million children.
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Health Minister Greg Hunt says Australia could become the first country after Israel to start rolling out booster shots across the whole population — from as early as the end of next week.
 
deck said:
I'm betting if they did all that for a wage then if they were told they needed a vaccine and must wear masks at all times to continue working they would have done it instantly.
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I'm sure if they were all offered a vibrating butt plug whilst in the mine - it too would have made their existence more bearable.
I'm not sure either my suggestion or yours is relevant. Ultimately, I am struck by their resilience when faced with a stark and overhwelmingly dangerous reality compared to our timid capitulation in the face of comfort and the mere hint of any threat.
 
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Xtreme said:
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And they still want to open up ??? LOL

Daniel Andrews failing Victoria one day at a time!!
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Are you getting nervous ?

He said he wasnt going to remain locked down for those who didnt want to jab
When you had your chance you either take it or face the consequences
 
Hawk Dork said:
Are you getting nervous ?

He said he wasnt going to remain locked down for those who didnt want to jab
When you had your chance you either take it or face the consequences
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Nothing to be nervous about my fellow Hawthorn supporter. He has still let every Victorian down, but as of Thursday he's in election mode and all of a sudden cases and deaths don't matter. If he was serious he should never have entered lockdown 6.0
 
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