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Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus: Origins

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Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 18 20.2%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 39 43.8%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 32 36.0%
  • Not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 24.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 20 22.5%

  • Total voters
    89

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Scientific study: actual death rate from coronavirus is much lower than previously estimated, between .04% and .12% (similar to the common cold)
 

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There have been 4 serious threats to US hegemony post 1945: USSR, Japan, the European Union and now China
The USSR fell apart in the late 1980s, Japan's global economic expansion hit a crisis in the 1990s, the European Union became dysfunctional after 2009.
In each instance, unsustainable debt caused a crisis which made the challenger incapable of sustaining a further threat to US hegemony.

And in each instance US foreign policy in co-ordination with US financial institutions and US media giants played an active role in undermining and curtailing the threat.

So here we are today, China is on the rise and with a neighbouring resource rich friendly Russia, China is unstoppable.
The US tries one sally after another but the Chinese government is a different proposition. China is a vibrant corporate economy with strong central government which will not permit US financial institutions to create unsustained debt. Attempts to destroy Russia and thereby control resource flow to China all fail because - Putin. China is the single largest holder of US debt. China is the largest export manufacturer in the world. China has more universities, more PHD graduates, more very fast trains, more super computers than anyone. This is an unstoppable force.

Q - HOW DO YOU STOP CHINA?
A - GLOBAL PLANDEMIC

A virus starting in China allows the US and the media to blame China - whether that sticks is not entirely critical but it does open possibilities of sanctions.

The crisis inevitably reveals critical medical and pharmaceutical equipment is dependent on Chinese Manufacturing. Once the pandemic is over, each country will review and retool local manufacturing for what is now considered vital to national interest. China loses these export markets permanently.

Further, each country will insist its industry diversify international manufacturing across multiple countries and regions to be less reliant on any single supplier or any single country. Again China loses export markets permanently.

This mass displacement of manufacturing from China must inevitably create financial strain within China. Large swathes of manufacturing becomes redundant. The Chinese economy must retool and look to build internal wealth and demand.

Chinese neighbours in South East Asia and particularly India are likely to be the main beneficiaries of this manufacturing diversification. All these countries are suspicious of Chinese power. As these nations become more connected to the rest of the world economy they will be full under the sway of US influence and act as regional challengers to China - the old reliable "divide and conquer"

B - WILL IT WORK

The Plandemic is a hail-Mary pass in Grid-IRon parlance. It might work or it could back-fire.
Either way, it's a chance for the USA to retain its global dominance as the sole super power.
And the argument would be if it does back-fire, is the USA any worse off?

C - WHY NOW
US dollar hegemony is under threat

China has already begun to develop an alternative financial system backed by gold with russia and iran. It is no longer purchasing Oil from the middle east in USA dollars.

The BRICS have been slowly planning and moving away from US Dollar hegemony.

Russia has invested heavily in gold purchases.

The hegemony of the US dollar is a powerful weapon at all times, but particularly during a global economic depression. So for the USA time is running out.
 
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There have been 4 serious threats to US hegemony post 1945: USSR, Japan, the European Union and now China
The USSR fell apart in the late 1980s, Japan's global economic expansion hit a crisis in the 1990s, the European Union became dysfunctional after 2009.
In each instance, unsustainable debt caused a crisis which made the challenger incapable of sustaining a further threat to US hegemony.

And in each instance US foreign policy in co-ordination with US financial institutions and US media giants played an active role in undermining and curtailing the threat.

So here we are today, China is on the rise and with a neighbouring resource rich friendly Russia, China is unstoppable.
The US tries one sally after another but the Chinese government is a different proposition. China is a vibrant corporate economy with strong central government which will not permit US financial institutions to create unsustained debt. Attempts to destroy Russia and thereby control resource flow to China all fail because - Putin. China is the single largest holder of US debt. China is the largest export manufacturer in the world. China has more universities, more PHD graduates, more very fast trains, more super computers than anyone. This is an unstoppable force.

Q - HOW DO YOU STOP CHINA?
A - GLOBAL PLANDEMIC

A virus starting in China allows the US and the media to blame China - whether that sticks is not entirely critical but it does open possibilities of sanctions.

The crisis inevitably reveals critical medical and pharmaceutical equipment is dependent on Chinese Manufacturing. Once the pandemic is over, each country will review and retool local manufacturing for what is now considered vital to national interest. China loses these export markets permanently.

Further, each country will insist its industry diversify international manufacturing across multiple countries and regions to be less reliant on any single supplier or any single country. Again China loses export markets permanently.

This mass displacement of manufacturing from China must inevitably create financial strain within China. Large swathes of manufacturing becomes redundant. The Chinese economy must retool and look to build internal wealth and demand.

Chinese neighbours in South East Asia and particularly India are likely to be the main beneficiaries of this manufacturing diversification. All these countries are suspicious of Chinese power. As these nations become more connected to the rest of the world economy they will be full under the sway of US influence and act as regional challengers to China - the old reliable "divide and conquer"

B - WILL IT WORK

The Plandemic is a hail-Mary pass in Grid-IRon parlance. It might work or it could back-fire.
Either way, it's a chance for the USA to retain its global dominance as the sole super power.
And the argument would be if it does back-fire, is the USA any worse off?

C - WHY NOW
US dollar hegemony is under threat

China has already begun to develop an alternative financial system backed by gold with russia and iran. It is no longer purchasing Oil from the middle east in USA dollars.

The BRICS have been slowly planning and moving away from US Dollar hegemony.

Russia has invested heavily in gold purchases.

The hegemony of the US dollar is a powerful weapon at all times, but particularly during a global economic depression. So for the USA time is running out.

that’s a pretty good write up

makes more sense than 99% of reddit CT posts
 


They just keep changing the story on how this spreads & the sheep will continue to lap it up.


Yep, as soon as people point out flaws in the argument they conveniently address them. Only old people get it -> a young person has it. Doesn't seem that contagious because I don't know anyone that has it -> you can give it to someone without being sick. Hospitals don't seem crowded -> it's actually the shortage of ventilators and numbers of people needed ICU, and so on.
 
Is anyone these days dying from natural cause's or any other way than the corona virus as the media always reports ?, Some reports going that dr's/coroners are just writing corona as the cause of death on death certificates.
Haha probably the NRA.

head blown off with a shotgun... Corona

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Is anyone these days dying from natural cause's or any other way than the corona virus as the media always reports ?, Some reports going that dr's/coroners are just writing corona as the cause of death on death certificates.

Anyone found with the virus who has died is recorded as dying from coronavirus, most of whom don't appear to have actually had the virus as their direct cause of death.
 
Anyone found with the virus who has died is recorded as dying from coronavirus, most of whom don't appear to have actually had the virus as their direct cause of death.

yep..which is why I’m not so concerned with Australia’s “ death toll” of 25 because of respiratory pneumonia in 65 to 90 year olds.

In all the hysteria going on, we have far less to worry about than other countries.
 

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Covid-19 is a monumental scam. Bullshit pandemic. Also excuse for the billionaires to buy everything that's now worth pennies on the stock exchange. Why would they lockdown the global economy but keep the stock markets open?
Have you seen the death rates for Italy so far this year? The growth rate is slightly up on 2019 but it is in line with previous years slight increase in the death rate. They’re lying their arses off when it comes to COVID-19 deaths.
 
Have you seen the death rates for Italy so far this year? The growth rate is slightly up on 2019 but it is in line with previous years slight increase in the death rate. They’re lying their arses off when it comes to COVID-19 deaths.
I would point your attention to the top of the page in your link (red box as indicated below). 2020 is a projection last updated 2019...
2020-04-03 15_02_50-Italy Death Rate 1950-2020 _ MacroTrends.png
 

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I would point your attention to the top of the page in your link (red box as indicated below). 2020 is a projection last updated 2019...
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It doesn’t matter. In the US 34million got the common or garden flu last year and 38k died. 2.5m people died last year in the US. End the shutdown now.
 
It doesn’t matter. In the US 34million got the common or garden flu last year and 38k died. 2.5m people died last year in the US. End the shutdown now.

Sorry relevance??

Your whole post was talking about there being no discernible increase in the death rates in italy from 2019 to 2020 and based on that information they were "lying their arses off".


Have you seen the death rates for Italy so far this year? The growth rate is slightly up on 2019 but it is in line with previous years slight increase in the death rate. They’re lying their arses off when it comes to COVID-19 deaths.


So the stat you were quoting to back up your statement now doesn't matter? Not even going to continue trying to reason with that logic...
 
Sorry relevance??

Your whole post was talking about there being no discernible increase in the death rates in italy from 2019 to 2020 and based on that information they were "lying their arses off".





So the stat you were quoting to back up your statement now doesn't matter? Not even going to continue trying to reason with that logic...
Mate, Italian deaths haven’t increased. We’ll all see the truth when the number of deaths are released for Italy in 2020. The coffins propaganda is all for show. Get the military to bring them in for added touch. 10 thousand coffins you say. Well, 50,000 Italians die every month.
 
We’ll all see the truth when the number of deaths are released for Italy in 2020.
I will happily mark this post and review this time next year.

10 thousand coffins you say. Well, 50,000 Italians die every month.

I haven't said anything...

plus I was intrigued by your claim re the death rate and having overall stats for 2020 already, yet you glossed over the big red box saying 2020 is not actual data, yet you either missed that or just glossed over it because it didn't suit your narrative...
 
Contacted a friend of mine in the US a few days ago (Tennessee). She is fine, all her family are fine including her 88 year old mother. Her sister works at a hospital, they have no cases there (they are supposedly at the other hospital). Her brother is a doctor at a hospital in Mississippi where they have a special isolation unit etc. - no cases. My relatives in NY are all fine.
 
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