damian drum

[dockerbabe]

i know the whole drummy issue is over but i thought of something
during all the fuss over the way he was sacked not once did we give him credit for what he did do for the club it may not have been much since he only enjoyed 13 wins over his 2 or so years

he coached freo to their first win over west coast and that was in style
he coached them to their second win over west coast
he coached them at their first win at the mcg (i think)
and we seen them playing a much better style of footy this season
he picked up key players in the draft like hasleby pavlich etc
he recruited players like carr, bell, t. longmuir etc

he was a good coach just unlucky

any more GOOD memories or thoughts about damian drum

 

[RacerX]

Too soon for me Dockerbabe - I'll save my fond memories for the off season.

 

[Frodo]

GOOD RIDDANCE...he was crap! But just which top coach is going to move to a second rate club?

And Wow, he drafted some good youngsters courtesy of finishing almost bottom of the table, great coaching. Chock up your extra draft choices for this seasons efforts to him too!!!

 

[freo_fan]

:MAD:

Originally posted by Frodo
GOOD RIDDANCE...he was crap! But just which top coach is going to move to a second rate club?

And Wow, he drafted some good youngsters courtesy of finishing almost bottom of the table, great coaching. Chock up your extra draft choices for this seasons efforts to him too!!!

Why are you such an arseh*le Frodo, what have we done to deserve the ******** you give our team, just piss off you *** and leave us alone!!!

 

[anchor man]

Re: :MAD:

Originally posted by freo_fan


Why are you such an arseh*le Frodo, what have we done to deserve the ******** you give our team, just piss off you *** and leave us alone!!!

Well said Freo Fan Froggy you are a dead set Wa%&Ker.Go suck the crap on the bottom of your canary cage.

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Frodo
GOOD RIDDANCE...he was crap! But just which top coach is going to move to a second rate club?

And Wow, he drafted some good youngsters courtesy of finishing almost bottom of the table, great coaching. Chock up your extra draft choices for this seasons efforts to him too!!!

AHAHAHHAHAAH
Eagle supporter commenting on another clubs drafting performances.
LOL thats a bit rich.

After all the eagles have the worst drafting history of any club in the past 7 years.

 

[Visro]

So true, the only players of any credit we drafter were:

Cousins
Gardiner
Wirrpunda
Morrison (though boy is he having a crap year!)

Others such as:

Williams
Fletcher
etc.

have yet to prove themselves that they can play proper AFL footy consistently!

Vis

 

[kuepper]

Originally posted by Visro
So true, the only players of any credit we drafter were:

Cousins
Nope, father/son rule, he chose to go there, you didnt draft him

Gardiner
yes, actually did pick him up #1 in the draft, traded up to get to that point though - but yes did actually draft him

Wirrpunda
Well (a) not in the last 7 years, but (b) was a concession pick, as compensation when Freo enteretd the league, so once again, nope not a draft pick - and when you compare to the other priority pick of Mathew Lloyd, sort of Pales into comparison

Morrison (though boy is he having a crap year!)
not 100% sure here, but I did think he was another Freo entering the league concession, but very possibly wrong with that

Others such as:

Williams
yes, a nobody

Fletcher
A has been never was

etc.
ect eh? havent seen him play, but I think we can safely assume he is a heartless clown

Why do you think you had to get those middle tier crabs like merenda, siera, prior etc, if you had drafted so well?

In the last 7 years, I have to agree with Sabre, you have DRAFTED nothing!

 

[RacerX]

Freo's drafting has not been to bad over the last 2 or 3 years. We are suffering at the moment because of bad drafting in the late Neesham era - very few of those players have matured to become onfield leaders or consistent AFL performers. In fact a lot of them have already left the club.

But I am quietly confident about the current young guns - they seem a to be talented players and also have a bit of nous about them. In three years a couple of those guys will be pressing for All Australian I'd reckon.

The eagles should either get some of their older players to take a pay cut or give them the arse (in a nice way of course). The eagles players that will take the club up the ladder are not the left over premiership players. Well thats my opinion for what its worth.

 

[dockerbabe]

brad bootsma troy wilson

Originally posted by Frodo
GOOD RIDDANCE...he was crap! But just which top coach is going to move to a second rate club?

And Wow, he drafted some good youngsters courtesy of finishing almost bottom of the table, great coaching. Chock up your extra draft choices for this seasons efforts to him too!!!

drummy drafted bootsma and we all thought he was mad but he showed us why he was drafted being one of the best on ground in some games last year

judgey drafted wilson and we all thought he was mad he is yet to show us why he was picked we still think judgey is mad

wilson is slow can only get the same amount of goals as behinds needs to show a bit more consistency

at keast bootsma can be used anywhere on the ground and has a decent pace

 

[Captain Random]

Originally posted by kuepper
ect eh? havent seen him play, but I think we can safely assume he is a heartless clown

Talk about glass houses

 

[GoEagles]

Originally posted by dockerbabe


he coached freo to their first win over west coast and that was in style
he coached them to their second win over west coast
Drum also lost 3 Western Derbys while he was coach

he coached them at their first win at the mcg (i think)
The Eagles won their first game at the MCG in their 4th year in the competition (May 4, 1990 against Richmond) - plus we didn't play any MCG games in 1989 . . . Fremantle won their first MCG game in their 6th season in the competition.

and we seen them playing a much better style of footy this season
0-10 while he was coach

he was a good coach just unlucky

 

[dockerbabe]

the point i was making is that he did somethings that neesham neva done and he deserves credit for that

neesham coached them at more derbies yet he neva walked away with the trophy
he couldn't get them a win at the mcg but drummy did

i aint saying that these are incredible miraculous events but drummy deserved some good praise over his few years coaching sure they aint finals appearances or grand finals but they were still good

by the way this post was NOT about the eagles it WAS about damian drum coaching freo

 

[kuepper]

Originally posted by carneagles

Talk about glass houses

Indeed, if you are so familiar with the term, why are you commenting on ANYONES drafting or playing stocks, when clearly ... other what you have been handed in concessions in your entire existance, you have drafted about 5 decent footballers in 14 seasons?

Please, entertain me wet toast 'supporters' and list the large number of quality draftees, in the 90's - not concessions, (wirrapunda, cousins, morrison) and not when you have traded up to the #1 pick ... as you can imagine footy this year depresses me, and am need in a good giggle

While you are there actually, tell me you think you can win this week as well, thats also always good for a laugh!

 

[Captain Random]

Originally posted by kuepper


Indeed, if you are so familiar with the term, why are you commenting on ANYONES drafting or playing stocks, when clearly ... other what you have been handed in concessions in your entire existance, you have drafted about 5 decent footballers in 14 seasons?

Please, entertain me wet toast 'supporters' and list the large number of quality draftees, in the 90's - not concessions, (wirrapunda, cousins, morrison) and not when you have traded up to the #1 pick ... as you can imagine footy this year depresses me, and am need in a good giggle

While you are there actually, tell me you think you can win this week as well, thats also always good for a laugh!

Your posts raise a few issues. Let's deal with them in turn:

1. You're a Dockers supporter and you're calling Eagles players heartless - c'mon, that's just leading with your chin. If your team's players had any heart at all, they would have won at least the Sydney game when Drum's job was clearly on the line. For that matter, if your team's board and sponsors had any heart, maybe Drum would still have a job. Looks like a lack of ticker runs in the club

2. Removing concession picks from your argument is meaningless - you can waste a concession pick just as easily as a normal pick, just like you can waste the #1 pick (anyone remember Anthony Banik? Steven Hooper?). Just as meaningless is removing the choices where the Eagles have traded to get the #1 pick. If other clubs are stupid enough to trade away the #1 pick, that's their problem

3. I'll admit - the Eagles have drafted poorly in the last seven years. On the other hand, the Dockers have drafted every player they ever had in the last seven years and my, haven't they done well. Actually, I'll take that back - the Dockers have drafted well in their history. Sh!t, you've drafted some legitimate champions. Pity you delisted or traded them before anyone realised

4. Amusing as it may be, I think the Eagles can beat Collingwood. It's called supporting your team

 

[anchor man]

Originally posted by carneagles


Talk about glass houses

Who threw the first stone?Some wonker called froggy who eats the crap from the bottom of the canaries cage.

 

[kuepper]

Originally posted by carneagles
Your posts raise a few issues. Let's deal with them in turn:

1. You're a Dockers supporter and you're calling Eagles players heartless - c'mon, that's just leading with your chin. If your team's players had any heart at all, they would have won at least the Sydney game when Drum's job was clearly on the line. For that matter, if your team's board and sponsors had any heart, maybe Drum would still have a job. Looks like a lack of ticker runs in the club.

I am sorry, but I think the only thing we do have going for us, is desire and heart - we lead the league in hard ball gets and why? Cause we show heart, and get in and under for the sherrin, however then we kill ourselves with lack of skill, and lack of judgement - but heart? no way. The best way to judge heart, in my opion, is the way a side battles out their games, and other than last weeks notable shellacking at the hands of the roos, wehave donme that all year - been at the contest and the man, then just kill ourselves, and when compared to the thrashings that are doles out in the last 2 months to the wet toast, I genuinely believe Freo do show more heart, week in, week out.

2. Removing concession picks from your argument is meaningless - you can waste a concession pick just as easily as a normal pick, just like you can waste the #1 pick (anyone remember Anthony Banik? Steven Hooper?). Just as meaningless is removing the choices where the Eagles have traded to get the #1 pick. If other clubs are stupid enough to trade away the #1 pick, that's their problem

Concession picks are just that - concessions - so they are granted to spoon feed a club for wahtever reason, they cant be compared to the actual draft, as their is no contest, you can wonde rin and make a choice, and away you go. Yes, there have been some lemons, however for the sake of Freo being involved, have a look from 1994 onwards, when the acctual drafting became alot more scientific, every other club and choice went forward, and your club went backwards in drafting, and FAST - name two firtst round draft picks in the last 7 years, that have played over 20 games for your club ... it isnt easy! why? incompetance.

3. I'll admit - the Eagles have drafted poorly in the last seven years. On the other hand, the Dockers have drafted every player they ever had in the last seven years and my, haven't they done well. Actually, I'll take that back - the Dockers have drafted well in their history. Sh!t, you've drafted some legitimate champions. Pity you delisted or traded them before anyone realised

Sigh, such a fallacy that is, sans peter beell can anyone please name one champion we had at the club, then traded away?

Yes, Gerad Neesham made some bad mistakes, and I bet if we went and looked at trading under John Todd/Alexander I guess the same would apply - however since his regime was removed, I challenge you to find fault with ANY of our picks, culminating in this years drafting of Adam Mcphee, with our firts pick, at number 39 - in hindsight it does seem an excellent choice!

4. Amusing as it may be, I think the Eagles can beat Collingwood. It's called supporting your team [/B]

As for supporting your team , please do not offend me, I have missed one home game in 7 years, how many have you been too - and not left before 3/4 time?

I would like to hear HOW Wet Toast can be collingwood, it is one thing to HOPE, and another to actually do, so please enlighhten me as to how they mighty wet toast juggernaut will wwin in melbourne., over a form side?

 

[Captain Random]

Originally posted by kuepper
I am sorry, but I think the only thing we do have going for us, is desire and heart - we lead the league in hard ball gets and why? Cause we show heart, and get in and under for the sherrin, however then we kill ourselves with lack of skill, and lack of judgement - but heart? no way. The best way to judge heart, in my opion, is the way a side battles out their games, and other than last weeks notable shellacking at the hands of the roos, wehave donme that all year - been at the contest and the man, then just kill ourselves, and when compared to the thrashings that are doles out in the last 2 months to the wet toast, I genuinely believe Freo do show more heart, week in, week out.

My previous comment stands. And if judging heart is "the way a side battles out their games", where does all the Freo heart go at 3/4 time? Stopping dead is not "battling out a game"

Concession picks are just that - concessions - so they are granted to spoon feed a club for wahtever reason, they cant be compared to the actual draft, as their is no contest, you can wonde rin and make a choice, and away you go.

But the argument to now has been all about how the Eagles can't pick for sh!t, hasn't it? How precisely is a concession pick different from the #1 pick in that regard, except that it was received for a different reason?

Yes, there have been some lemons, however for the sake of Freo being involved, have a look from 1994 onwards, when the acctual drafting became alot more scientific, every other club and choice went forward, and your club went backwards in drafting, and FAST - name two firtst round draft picks in the last 7 years, that have played over 20 games for your club ... it isnt easy! why? incompetance.

Okay - Michael Gardiner and Brendan Fewster, there's two. And you do realise that I'm not disputing that the Eagles have drafted badly, don't you?

Sigh, such a fallacy that is, sans peter beell can anyone please name one champion we had at the club, then traded away?

Jeff White and Winston Abraham, again there's two for you. And you can't deny that you stuffed up with the likes of Farmer and McLeod

Yes, Gerad Neesham made some bad mistakes, and I bet if we went and looked at trading under John Todd/Alexander I guess the same would apply -

Actually the bulk of the 1992 premiership team was signed by Alexander and Todd

however since his regime was removed, I challenge you to find fault with ANY of our picks, culminating in this years drafting of Adam Mcphee, with our firts pick, at number 39 - in hindsight it does seem an excellent choice!

A youngster for whom you gave away two 30+ game senior players, one of whom is starring at his new club

As for your picks in the Drum era, yeah, Haselby and Pavlich are good players - hang on, they were concession picks so let's just ignore them. As for the others who have actually played, Cook was a great selection, Brown is okay, T Longmuir is alright but you did give up two selections to get him so you'd want to hope so, Fewster's been a failure at Freo, Prescott is washed up, Bootsma is a journeyman at best. And seeing you pissed away the draft to get Bell, you'd better pray he stars

As for supporting your team , please do not offend me, I have missed one home game in 7 years, how many have you been too - and not left before 3/4 time?

Unproveable. And sorry to offend you but if you're going to deal in cliches you had better expect to receive a few back. You forgot the one about us all being chardonnay drinkers by the way

I would like to hear HOW Wet Toast can be collingwood, it is one thing to HOPE, and another to actually do, so please enlighhten me as to how they mighty wet toast juggernaut will wwin in melbourne., over a form side?

What is this, 20 questions? You only have to follow the Collingwood threads on the main board to see why we're in with a chance - their supporters think it's a certainty. They have had good wins but they are hardly a "form" side (cf. the Sydney game). And with some experienced players in Kemp and McIntosh back, that'll also help

Here's a question for you. How is the "mighty Freo juggernaut" going to beat Essendon?

 

[Frodo]

Excellent response carneagles.

Freo hard at the ball???? Hard at the man you mean. Dirty thugs...remember the Eagles game last season and the Freo plan...we can't beat them with skills, lets mug them!!!

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Frodo
Excellent response carneagles.

Freo hard at the ball???? Hard at the man you mean. Dirty thugs...remember the Eagles game last season and the Freo plan...we can't beat them with skills, lets mug them!!!

Awwww didums
Did pretty boy Cousins get some treatment.

I think ill be sending some handbags down the the club, cousins and Gardiner might want sum lippy as well.



And there is no dirtier player than Phil Read, that guy is the next libba of the competition (and im not talking skills wise).

 

[kuepper]

Originally posted by Frodo
Excellent response carneagles.

Freo hard at the ball???? Hard at the man you mean. Dirty thugs...remember the Eagles game last season and the Freo plan...we can't beat them with skills, lets mug them!!!

Sorry Carneagkles, i will reply to your post - good to see someone supporting their club with facts and a clear head - just give me some time qwsnowed under with work!

As for you Troll-do, go watch the video of the round 21 clash last year - you will see that Gardiner started swing at pavlich, unprovoked, before the game began, and then phil 'doily' Read (Don't ask about the doily, but ask someone who he went to school with what he used to sell) continued it - one of the great fallacies is that Freo (especially kickett) was the instigators, which is far from the truth.

Anyway, hard at the man, or the ball, is far better than lettuce leaf efforts like the 20 goal hiding against carlscum isnt it Troll-do?

 

[dockerbabe]

Originally posted by Frodo
Excellent response carneagles.

Freo hard at the ball???? Hard at the man you mean. Dirty thugs...remember the Eagles game last season and the Freo plan...we can't beat them with skills, lets mug them!!!

what plan?
i think i can distinctly remember on basil's footy show last year filmed before the derby karl langdon said way more serious then clive
"Gardi go out there and dish into them"
now if i remember clive was laughing when he made his comments so now who are the dirty thugs the ones that joke or the serious planners down at eagleville

 

[jedi mind tricks]

Remember this coach and days? Sadly I do. Arrrggghh!!!

And people are complaining about who Ross picks in the 22 and how it's not good enough to just win games while you are on top of the ladder.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Bumping that should be a reportable and bannable offence !!!

 

[Freofalcon]

*BUMP*

Fourteen year bump.

Fair effort.