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Wow. Just wow.

The Large Hadron Collider at CERN may never actually find the Higgs boson according to Holger Bech Nielsen, of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto.

They suggest that a future experiment may have created a Higgs boson that travelled back in time to sabotage to LHC.

Paradox, but awesome idea nevertheless.
 
danielcanberra said:
Wow. Just wow.

The Large Hadron Collider at CERN may never actually find the Higgs boson according to Holger Bech Nielsen, of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto.

They suggest that a future experiment may have created a Higgs boson that travelled back in time to sabotage to LHC.

Paradox, but awesome idea nevertheless.
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Better than the apocalypse the fruit loops that were protesting before it was turned on were warning of. Where'd you read this?
 
Haggis McHaggis said:
Better than the apocalypse the fruit loops that were protesting before it was turned on were warning of. Where'd you read this?
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Initially BBC News Magazine, then followed up with NY Times, New Scientist, and then this abstract in the original scientific journal

We argue that a restriction determined by a drawn card or quantum random numbers, on the running of LHC (Large Hadron Collider), which was proposed in earlier articles by us, can only result in an, at first, apparent success whatever the outcome. This previous work was concerned with looking for backward causation and/or influence from the future, which, in our previous model, was assumed to have the effect of arranging bad luck for large Higgs producing machines, such as LHC and the never finished SSC (Superconducting Super Collider) stopped by Congress because of such bad luck, so as not to allow them to work.
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The earlier paper was dated July 2007. It should have made headlines.

Scientists using the words 'bad luck' renders me speechless.
 
LoL my gawd..

The authors clear up some of the mystery by describing their model as starting with "a series of not completely convincing, but still suggestive, assumptions".
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Even more fun is Nielsen and Ninomiya's suggestion of how their theory might be tested: with a card game.

First, take a million or so cards, each scribbled with a future fate for the LHC. Make them overwhelmingly read "carry on", but add just one or two saying "shut the thing down".

If you pull one of the "shut down" ones at random, you have pretty good proof that the Higgs is trying to tell you something from the future.
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As Niels Bohr, Dr. Nielsen’s late countryman and one of the founders of quantum theory, once told a colleague: “We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct.”
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I say nay!

Speechless is right.. trying to quantify 'luck' into any science infers the lack of a completely rational explanation in the first place. If a Higgs could cause what they claim, then that explanation even, would have nothing to do with luck.

What got me, in reading all that, was that they've created anti-hydrogen atoms :eek::eek: I didn't know antimatter had been created & contained. If they accelerate that into a hydrogen atom it'll be an even more glorious end than the black holes the fruit loops thought it was going to cause :D

Higgs/dark matter/string theory, I have a hard time reconciling any of it. String theory I find fascinating as at least has some merit in the nature of dynamic relationships based on energies manipulating each other. Not as easy to think about when you break it down to the sub-atomic level. Dark matter i see as a lazy mans way of trying to explain away the fact that current theories can't account for the true mass of the universe. The higgs particle is an extension of that. That said, I'm just a plodder sitting in a suburban house that loves pondering astrophysics & trying to comprehend stuff people have put their whole lives into. But as ol' Einstein said "Imagination is more important than knowledge. The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking."

Gotta give these blokes that much.. they certainly have vivid imaginations.
 

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I tried to google <3 not understanding what it meant. No result.

I thought it was a moon, like in baring one's arse.

Doh! I finally worked out it means heart. :heart:

I mean seriously, please stop using that on BigFooty when there is a perfectly fine smiley symbol available.
 
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HAVE SOULS SERIOUSLY I HATE SOUTH PARK
ALL THEY DO IS INSULT PEOPLE AND IVE HAD ENOUGH
OF ALL OF IT I WANT SOUTHPARK BOYCOTTED

IF YOU HAVE RED HAIR.. GOOD FOR YOU!
BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE! LIKE ME!

GINGERS DO HAVE SOULS!!
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TheBrownDog said:
As someone who has battled the ranga virus in the past... I can confirm that we do not have souls.
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This version confirms that dowg! ;):p

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Another funny one.

Barbara Schöneberger is a television presenter. She gets mocked a lot so it's funny to see her take the piss. It'll be funny if she ends up with a minor role in Gute Zeiten, schlechte Zeiten (GZSZ), which is a soap set in Berlin. That Emily Höfer character in GZSZ needs a good thumping for all her whining.

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Holland RA, Wikelski M, K*mmeth F, Bosque C, 2009 The Secret Life of Oilbirds: New Insights into the Movement Ecology of a Unique Avian Frugivore. PLoS ONE 4(12): e8264. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0008264

Steatornis caripensis (the oilbird) is a very unusual bird. It supposedly never sees daylight, roosting in huge aggregations in caves during the day and bringing back fruit to the cave at night. As a consequence a large number of the seeds from the fruit they feed upon germinate in the cave and spoil.
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Steatornis caripensis [15] is a unique avian frugivore. They sally for fruit at night instead of hunting for insects on the wing, as other members of the Caprimulgiformes, such as nightjars do [16], [17]. During the day they roost in deep caves into most of which sunlight does not penetrate. The eyes of Steatornis caripensis have the highest light-gathering capacity of any terrestrial vertebrate, perhaps the maximum that is achievable [18], with a rod:cone ratio of 123:1 [19] and a density of 1 million rods/mm2. This, and their above described well-known nocturnal foraging habits [17], had researchers firmly convinced that Steatornis caripensis “…never see direct sun light” as they are “…well equipped for cavernicolous and nocturnal habits” [19]. Despite this assumption, reports exist that Steatornis caripensis are occasionally seen roosting during the daytime in canopy trees [20], [21] Steatornis caripensis are known to carry seeds over large distances back to their respective caves [15], [17], [22], [23]. The high lipid content of the fruit pulps that they consume requires lengthy gut transit times [24], although seeds can be regurgitated more quickly. Nevertheless, Steatornis caripensis have been seen regurgitating seeds in caves long after returning to roost there for the day [23]. Because the birds are thought to roost in caves or deep gorges only, and seeds that germinate in caves do not develop properly [17], [25], [26], the role of Steatornis caripensis as specialized dispersers has been questioned [25], [27].
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(photo from Flickr with permission to use under cc-by-2.0 via Wikipedia)

This is just amazing. On two counts. A bird that feeds on fruit and lives in a cave. Just like bats.

And that the entire article was available for free online. Most academic scientific journals are by subscription only.
 
Magic post Dan. First impressions of the pic was a Nightjar and when reading the item posted I see that it is related. I had never heard of this bird before.

Are you into ornithology? I have a bit of an amateur disposition to it and have a good few field guides, always keep a Slater in the car, and try and take a pair of Bins 10 x 40 with me if I am going anywhere interesting. Always adds to the experience.

I have over the years listed sightings from my travels. Present Australian count is 241 with my most interesting, for me personally, being a Powerful Owl in Palms National Park near Yarraman SEQ. No matter how I tried to envisage it's size when I finally caught one in the flesh it was still a massive bird. A Turquoise Parrot in Sundown National park was also a thrill and watching an Osprey close up dive to grab fish about 20 unsuccessful times at Boondall was also an amazing thing to watch. When ever I have overseas visitors I take them to O'Reilly's at Green Mountain just so they can walk the Rainforest and feed the King parrots and Rosella's and get to see the Regents and Satin Bowerbirds. I recommend that to everyone in SEQ as your visitors will never be disappointed with the experience.
 
Not seriously John, but I do pay attention enough to try and identify all the species where I live.

These are mainly crimson rosella (Platycercus elegans), Australian magpie (Coracias tibicen), galah (Eolophus roseicapilla), sulfur-crested cockatoo (Cacatua galerita), crested pigeon (Ocyphaps lophotes), masked lapwing (Vanellus miles) and the occasional king parrot (Alisterus scapularis).

I saw a bird of paradise once at the botanic gardens in Port Moresby, don't know which particular species, but I was surprised that it was so small.
 
danielcan said:
Wow. Just wow.

The Large Hadron Collider at CERN may never actually find the Higgs boson according to Holger Bech Nielsen, of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto.

They suggest that a future experiment may have created a Higgs boson that travelled back in time to sabotage to LHC.

Paradox, but awesome idea nevertheless.
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Something i read just now, on my (extended) lunch break. A cross between 12 Monkeys and Stargate. And apparently it's fact. :confused:
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/montauk.html

Didn't know where else to post this but though it was sort of relevant to your post DC.

Seriously, i had trouble following this at some points, but once i got to the end, i felt like i had just read the wildest Sci-fi/consiracy theory story ever. Aliens. Time travel. 15 foot monsters. It's got the lot. :eek:
 

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Dr Karl considers the Philadelphia experiment to by myth. It's in one of his Twitter tweets in response to a question from a random person.

On a much more exciting note, I have great pleasure in announcing that in one of my Samboy packets of chips (barbecue), I have just discovered a Daniel Rich ultra 3-D footy plays card, like a Tazo but better.

And it only took me six packets to get a Brisbane Lions one.

This lot must have been in the planning for ages as Daniel Bradshaw is one of the player cards for Brisbane Lions.
 

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