Donuts McGregor

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Yep. Has been a solid contributer for our club in the past but the game has passed him by. He looks so slow out there. Hard to believe he's only 27. As a KPP he should be carving it up at that age.

I saw in the paper today he had 2 possessions....and 3 clangers! Seriously, how is that possible?!

2 free kicks against and 1 of his 2 handballs must have resulted in a turnover.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

2 free kicks against and 1 of his 2 handballs must have resulted in a turnover.

You could maybe forgive him a few bad games if he was still working hard but a tackle count of nil means he has zero workrate. I think, barring serious injury, yesterday should be Kens last game in Crows colours. Gill, Sellar or even Kite (until trent H is ready)should always be picked ahead of him now if we need to replace a tall - Ken is giving us nothing.

 

[Coopers]

2 year contract was stupid; based on sentimentality, nothing else.

It wasn't sentimentality, it was insurance. To hedge against injuries, for when there is a hole in the side.

Gill isn't fit, Sellar isn't in form, Walker is still a baby, Griff and Moran injured = Mcgregor gets a game.

He'll be dropped next week for Griff coming back in.

 

[J_Moore]

As woeful as his last two games have been, I would love to see the bloke get a chance to redeem himself before he packs it in. Just a couple of quarters of reliable footy.

Clearly, he can't keep up with the pace of the game anymore, but it's sad to see players leave on a low. Should've called it quits after booting four against Hawthorn last year.

As a side note, I was pretty sure I saw him land one tackle (right before bassett ran that goal through). I got pretty excited. Must've been someone else.

Kenny McGregor, you beauty.

 

[coast2coast]

great bloke and great servant and all that, but..

it's a pity we didn't trade him at the end of last season when he had a smidgen of currency left

 

[DrMantis]

As a side note, I was pretty sure I saw him land one tackle (right before bassett ran that goal through). I got pretty excited. Must've been someone else.

Kenny McGregor, you beauty.

There's a picture in today's Tiser of him laying a tackle.

 

[Mismatched]

There's a picture in today's Tiser of him laying a tackle.

I saw him lay a couple, unfortunately the ball had long been dished off by then

 

[crowie]

That's harsh. A few years ago Kenny was rated the best CHB in the competition. He has played some great footy for our club. He did nothing today with very limited game time as far as I could tell on the telly. He's obviously not in our best 22 and possibly won't get another game, but let's send him off with a thumbs up rather than a fart.

What year was this?

I really don't understand the love for him, he's never fulfilled his potential. He's always been slow, can't kick 50m without a tail wind and never consistently played well.

He's been a serviceable player for this club but it's time for him to go. He still has age on his side to maybe get another gig, I hope he does and does well but his time with the Crows should be over.

 

[Mismatched]

What year was this?

I really don't understand the love for him, he's never fulfilled his potential. He's always been slow, can't kick 50m without a tail wind and never consistently played well.

He's been a serviceable player for this club but it's time for him to go. He still has age on his side to maybe get another gig, I hope he does and does well but his time with the Crows should be over.

Back in '03/'04 and moving into '05 a little he was one of the better CHBs in the comp, don't know about the best but a quality one definitely. He would continually take great defensive saving grabs in the middle of packs etc stopping many an opposition attacking foray. He is a decent defender, not of the class of Bock and Rutten, but still a much better defender than he is forward.

 

[marvin]

Poor bloke doesn't even get respect from the statisticians. A nice big juicy photo in the Tiser today of Kenny wrapping up Tivendale in a bear hug, and he's credited with zero tackles.

 

[marvin]

What year was this?

A couple of years ago Mick Malthouse had him in his AA side. Jonathon Brown rated him his toughest opponent.

I really don't understand the love for him, he's never fulfilled his potential. He's always been slow, can't kick 50m without a tail wind and never consistently played well.

That paragraph sounds like you think he hade no potential.

 

[crowie]

Here is an interesting player stats comparison for two players who have been given vastly different treatment by Adelaide Crows supporters.

Ken McGregor

Games 152 - Kicks 6.9 - Handballs 4.2 - Disposals 11.1 - Marks 4.4 - Goals 0.8 - Behinds 0.5 - Tackles 1.3 -
Hitouts 0.6 - Frees For 0.8 - Frees Ag. 0.7 - Brownlow Votes 0.05

Ian Perrie

Games 116 - Kicks 7.4 - Handballs 3.7 - Disposals 11.1 - Marks 5.1 - Goals 1.1 - Behinds 0.9 - Tackles 1.3 -
Hitouts 0.5 - Frees For 0.8 - Frees Ag. 0.7 - Brownlow Votes 0.13

How close are the stats of these two players but how different was the treatment that they received.

 

[macca23]

Here is an interesting player stats comparison for two players who have been given vastly different treatment by Adelaide Crows supporters.

Ken McGregor

Games 152 - Kicks 6.9 - Handballs 4.2 - Disposals 11.1 - Marks 4.4 - Goals 0.8 - Behinds 0.5 - Tackles 1.3 - Hitouts 0.6 - Frees For 0.8 -
Frees Ag. 0.7 - Brownlow Votes 0.05

Ian Perrie

Games 116 - Kicks 7.4 - Handballs 3.7 - Disposals 11.1 - Marks 5.1 - Goals 1.1 - Behinds 0.9 - Tackles 1.3 - Hitouts 0.5 - Frees For 0.8 -
Frees Ag. 0.7 - Brownlow Votes 0.13

How close are the stats of these two players but how different was the treatment that they received.

And what different ends of the ground they mainly played.

You're comparing primarily a CHB with primarily a lead-up forward.

Apple and an orange.

 

[crowie]

And what different ends of the ground they mainly played.

You're comparing primarily a CHB with primarily a lead-up forward.

Apple and an orange.

Well I think that's what makes Perrie's stats even better compared to KM. Take goals and behinds out it, Perries played the harder position for longer but Perrie played down back as did McGregor forward. People can elevate KM to something he isn't if they want to but he's never been anything more than a decent player who never fulfilled his potential. Fair enough he may have had two good years but he's been with the club since 1998 or 1999, he hasn't done enough for all the praise he receives.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Here is an interesting player stats comparison for two players who have been given vastly different treatment by Adelaide Crows supporters.

Ken McGregor

Games 152 - Kicks 6.9 - Handballs 4.2 - Disposals 11.1 - Marks 4.4 - Goals 0.8 - Behinds 0.5 - Tackles 1.3 -
Hitouts 0.6 - Frees For 0.8 - Frees Ag. 0.7 - Brownlow Votes 0.05

Ian Perrie

Games 116 - Kicks 7.4 - Handballs 3.7 - Disposals 11.1 - Marks 5.1 - Goals 1.1 - Behinds 0.9 - Tackles 1.3 -
Hitouts 0.5 - Frees For 0.8 - Frees Ag. 0.7 - Brownlow Votes 0.13

How close are the stats of these two players but how different was the treatment that they received.

........I'm not sure the treatment of both players has differed that much ...........Kenny enjoyed a strong period as a stopping CHB but both in latter stages of their careers have had to put up with strong and sustained criticism ......maybe Kenny more than Perrie

 

[macca23]

Well I think that's what makes Perrie's stats even better compared to KM. Take goals and behinds out it, Perries played the harder position for longer but Perrie played down back as did McGregor forward. People can elevate KM to something he isn't if they want to but he's never been anything more than a decent player who never fulfilled his potential. Fair enough he may have had two good years but he's been with the club since 1998 or 1999, he hasn't done enough for all the praise he receives.

Blind Freddie can see that Kenny appears to have come to the end of the road, having lost all pace and mobility.

However he has been a good and at times excellent servant of the AFC for over 150 games until the last year and a bit.

Enjoy your moment in the sun laying crap on him but don't attempt to re-write history.

 

[bus24]

but both in latter stages of their careers have had to put up with strong and sustained criticism ......maybe Kenny more than Perrie

Maybe if he continues on embarrassing himself for the rest of this year.

But he's got a long way to go in the "much maligned" stakes to get close to Pez. At least in my books.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Maybe if he continues on embarrassing himself for the rest of this year.

But he's got a long way to go in the "much maligned" stakes to get close to Pez. At least in my books.

ooooOH not so sure about that .........Kenny's supporters have relied on "phantom" injuries to explain away his form over the last season and half.

No-one gave any credit to Perrie for playing with injury ........that IMO was an injustice.

 

[crowie]

Blind Freddie can see that Kenny appears to have come to the end of the road, having lost all pace and mobility.

However he has been a good and at times excellent servant of the AFC for over 150 games until the last year and a bit.

Enjoy your moment in the sun laying crap on him but don't attempt to re-write history.

Having a differing opinion to the majority is a moment in the sun?

Fair enough.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Blind Freddie can see that Kenny appears to have come to the end of the road, having lost all pace and mobility.

However he has been a good and at times excellent servant of the AFC for over 150 games until the last year and a bit.

Enjoy your moment in the sun laying crap on him but don't attempt to re-write history.

Absolutely true .....whilst I have been a constant critic over the last couple of seasons .....probably corresponding with his move from defence ......there is no doubt that for 4 seasons he was the rock around which our defence was built.

To de-value that contribution is grossly unfair ......and I agree with your comments ......about time me thinks

 

[Mismatched]

ooooOH not so sure about that .........Kenny's supporters have relied on "phantom" injuries to explain away his form over the last season and half.

No-one gave any credit to Perrie for playing with injury ........that IMO was an injustice.

Is it just me or are you and Bus24 trying to make the same point, yet arguing about it?

IMO Perrie recieve a lot more flak than Mcgregor, sometimes warranted sometimes unfairly, both however have over the past 10 odd years been wonderful servants for the club and deserve our respect. It is however time for the AFC to move on, we moved on from Perrie at the end of last year, IMO we should have moved on from Mcgregor as well.