Dr Karl = zero credibility

[The Dice Man]

As an Essendon supporter, I concur As a mate, I don't!!

It wouldn't be such a bad way to go. All in the name of science, and an acid-inspired experiment

 

[RoosterLad]

Dice Man what made you decide to try that in the first place??

Might give it a go over summer, after a few beers and during lunch in the cricket. Hopefully freak a few mates out in the process.

 

[The Dice Man]

Dice Man what made you decide to try that in the first place??

Might give it a go over summer, after a few beers and during lunch in the cricket. Hopefully freak a few mates out in the process.

Years ago (1998ish) I was hitchhiking from Melbourne to Byron Bay with a mate. We stopped in Canberra for a night and got onto to some quality Acid. We partied with the Canberra locals (all 8 of them) in some dingy nightclub.

Nightclub closed at 1 or something and the only thing open in Canberra back then was a service station. Now this was the middle of winter and Canberra is ********ing cold, so we hung around the servo, using the incandescent lighting as a source of heat.

I was having a dhurrie and for some unkown reason I had the urge to drop my ciggie down the petrol bowser, acid obviously having given me super powers of perception, even for the unknown.

Now the mate I was hitching with, well we always argued about any ********, such as the moon wasn't really where it was when we looked at it. My contention was that by the time the light had travlelled to our eyes, the moon had in fact moved on from that point, no matter how slightly.

He couldnt wrap his head around that.

So he argued that it would blow up, I argued that it wouldnt. Needless to say I didnt actually test it that night, but i was very close. It was the killing of the dude working the servo that put me off, in case I was wrong.


And so finally a couple of months ago I put it to the test, but if you are going to try it, make sure you only use a litre of petrol, and I used a rollie for the experiment.

Under these conditions you should be able to shock and awe your mates who will believe you to be a magician... oops, illusionist of the highest royal order.

 

[Chief]

You could drop a lit cigarette down the bowser of a petrol pump and it wont catch on fire.

I know, Ive tested it*

So from your statement here we'd assume you actually gone and done it at a petrol pump, but we find that you actually did this:

I poured about a litre of petrol into an ice cream container, took a drag of a laramie so it was fired up nice and hot, and dropped the laramie into the petrol and zilch, nada, nought. It put the butt out.

Now that's science!

I can't believe* that there are people who would waste their time bagging a radio show about science bits and pieces. To my knowledge Dr Karl does a lot of it off his head, does some searches and adds in a lot of "as far as I can recall" and "but don't quote me on that I'll have to do some homework to check the facts".

If he were out there claiming to have discovered the cure for cancer off the top of his head I could understand a backlash but this thread seems the result of people with too much time on their hands and a desire to paint themselves as more knowledgeable than a guy on the radio.

Relax kids, it is only entertainment.


* Well, I can actually.

 

[The Dice Man]

So from your statement here we'd assume you actually gone and done it at a petrol pump, but we find that you actually did this:



Now that's science!

I put my asterisk disclaimer in there Chief.

It stands to reason a bowser would be much the same, EXCEPT, and it is a big except.. I believe the petrol vapor itself is more dangerous than the liquid, as far as igniting goes.

So if I had've been in a very still room, allowing the vapours to concentrate in the one area, it may have been a different story.

Agree on the Doc Karl bashing too, he doesnt come across as knowing everything and often mentions that he will have to follow up and get back to people on some things.

 

[Underdog]

I can't believe* that there are people who would waste their time bagging a radio show about science bits and pieces. To my knowledge Dr Karl does a lot of it off his head, does some searches and adds in a lot of "as far as I can recall" and "but don't quote me on that I'll have to do some homework to check the facts".[/I]

Indeed. He dosent claim to know it all but rather answer to the best of his ability. He is right quite often while occasionally he is incorrect.

Also, he does have internet access there. He gets help on questions off his science forum run by the ABC, on which there are many scientists who tune in.

 

[otaku]

Possibly. But knowing tons and tons of general/scientific knowledge isn't really about genius. It's a combo of intelligence, memory, and interest in science.

His IQ (so he has claimed) is about 115. So, no - he is not a genius as such.

His is, however, and incredibly well-read and learned person. Something i think the OP lacks.

 

[Red_Devil]

I put my asterisk disclaimer in there Chief.

It stands to reason a bowser would be much the same, EXCEPT, and it is a big except.. I believe the petrol vapor itself is more dangerous than the liquid, as far as igniting goes.

So if I had've been in a very still room, allowing the vapours to concentrate in the one area, it may have been a different story.

Agree on the Doc Karl bashing too, he doesnt come across as knowing everything and often mentions that he will have to follow up and get back to people on some things.

I work at a service station, so I've done all that induction ******** about safety an rah rah rah... It is possible to get ignited from just static, it's happened before, and it will happen again.

RE the smoke.. And you say you put it down a bowser? What down the nozzle part where the fuel comes out, or the dip part?

Cause if you put it down the nozzle part there is no actuall fuel sitting in there. There is just vapours. The fuel is in a tank often not even within 5 meters of the bowsers and it gets sucked up. Having said that, I would probably rather a cigarette dropped into a tank holding 30,000 litres of petrol then have one some where where's theres fumes around.

Cause it's the fumes where you will get an ignition, drop it into a tank and it will just get over-powered and blow out (generally) - I advise you don't try it.

 

[The Dice Man]

I work at a service station, so I've done all that induction ******** about safety an rah rah rah... It is possible to get ignited from just static, it's happened before, and it will happen again.

RE the smoke.. And you say you put it down a bowser? What down the nozzle part where the fuel comes out, or the dip part?

If you'd read the thread, you'd know the answer to that

Cause if you put it down the nozzle part there is no actuall fuel sitting in there. There is just vapours. The fuel is in a tank often not even within 5 meters of the bowsers and it gets sucked up. Having said that, I would probably rather a cigarette dropped into a tank holding 30,000 litres of petrol then have one some where where's theres fumes around.

Cause it's the fumes where you will get an ignition, drop it into a tank and it will just get over-powered and blow out (generally) - I advise you don't try it.

Agree, and if you'd read the thread you'd see me say similar... i.e. that I suspect its the vapors that give you ignition, moreso than the liquid, as I discovered in my little experiment.

 

[Red_Devil]

If you'd read the thread, you'd know the answer to that



Agree, and if you'd read the thread you'd see me say similar... i.e. that I suspect its the vapors that give you ignition, moreso than the liquid, as I discovered in my little experiment.

ah-ha... If you wanna really see a bang then put a cig into a gas tank! That will def blow.. Seen it first hand a couple of times!

 

[The Dice Man]

ah-ha... If you wanna really see a bang then put a cig into a gas tank! That will def blow.. Seen it first hand a couple of times!

You mean you've seen some people actually drop a ciggie into a tank?

Damn they must've had some fine acid!

 

[ManWithNoName]

Nah its cool, they can. I've tested it

Adding flame to petrol is a good idea mummy, the man on the internet told me so.

 

[The Dice Man]

Adding flame to petrol is a good idea mummy, the man on the internet told me so.

Who said anything about adding flamage to petrol?


Again I say if you'd read the thread...

 

[boppa]

What he says may not be true but he is highly entertaining.