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Yeah...I think Medhurst was OK today as well. McManus had a couple of chances and blew them, but he'll be feeling worse than anyone else.

I don't think Medhurst necessarily saw Dessie and it was a time in the match that there were too many variables...there may have been a few seconds left as far as he was concerned so why not go direct...Pavlich could have marked it ?, shepherded it through for a goal ?, what if he'd crossed to Headland and the siren went while the ball was in flight ? Who knows, but I don't think he was to blame.
 
BB gun said:
I didn't see much a Headland today as well, so i am not suprised medhurst missed him, probably thought he wasn't playing.

Did we watch the same game? I thought headland presented and finished well.
 
BB gun said:
We played a full strength St kilda (minus one player out of there best 22), we were missing 3.
Medhurst made the right decision, he wouldn't have know how much time was left, so the best option would have been to go to goal, especially with pavlich in the goal square.
It was a great showing away from home, on a ground we struggle, in conditions we struggle in.
Last game we played in Tasmania we lost to Hawthorn, this time we lost to the a premiership favourite in St kilda, by one point.
 
Slacker said:
Did we watch the same game? I thought headland presented and finished well.
I only watched it on TV so it is hard to say how he went, but i certaintly didn't see him do much on the screen.
The conditions did suit him, nor did they suit young murphy
 

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Medhurst wasn't the reason we lost the game. There were many worse players out there.

I don't think he saw Headland, but perhaps he should have had the vision and the composure to look up instead of turning the blinkers on. Having said that, it's unfair to highlight one piece of play... We could also be blaming Carr trying to take on Hamill in the D50? Or Bell's errant kick out from D50 in the final quarter? Or McPharlin 'tunnel-balling' it through the goals? Or Hasleby and Pavlich both hitting the post from set shots within 30m out at various stages of the game?

McManus, however, is more of a liability than an asset.
 
BB gun said:
Last game we played in Tasmania we lost to Hawthorn, this time we lost to the a premiership favourite in St kilda, by one point.

I think most of us have progressed past the point of accepting honorable losses. That was a game we should have won, I'm gutted, not happy that we could at least get within 1 point of the saints. Hopefully it spurs them on for the rest of the season and gives them a bit more hunger.
 
FreoDocker said:
I think most of us have progressed past the point of accepting honorable losses. That was a game we should have won, I'm gutted, not happy that we could at least get within 1 point of the saints. Hopefully it spurs them on for the rest of the season and gives them a bit more hunger.
I think they must have had enough spurs by now too.
At the end of the day i don't think the dockers are a top 4 side, so imo to lose by 1 point away from home against a top 4 side is a pretty good effort
 
BB gun said:
I think they must have had enough spurs by now too.
At the end of the day i don't think the dockers are a top 4 side, so imo to lose by 1 point away from home against a top 4 side is a pretty good effort

We're only not a top 4 side because we lose games like that!
Bring on the Derby!!
 
FreoDocker said:
We're only not a top 4 side because we lose games like that!
Bring on the Derby!!
we lost away by 1 point against a top 4 side
Medhurst 9 touches 3 goals
Farmer 4 touches 1 goal
 
BB gun said:
we lost away by 1 point against a top 4 side
After leading pretty much all day. Don't get me wrong, I was happy with how we went about it for the majority of the match, but extremely disappointed in the result. Perhaps if you had said before the start of the season that we would go down to the saints by a point away, most people wouldn't have necessarily been that disappointed. But without looking at the bigger picture and viewing the loss in the context of the game, it was the one that got away.
 
FreoDocker said:
After leading pretty much all day. Don't get me wrong, I was happy with how we went about it for the majority of the match, but extremely disappointed in the result. Perhaps if you had said before the start of the season that we would go down to the saints by a point away, most people wouldn't have necessarily been that disappointed. But without looking at the bigger picture and viewing the loss in the context of the game, it was the one that got away.
It did get away, but usually those game even out over the course of the season. We never lead by more than 3 goals so St kilda were always a chance to win
 
Medders is being Medders - you've got to take the good with the bad. He's the type of player who infuriates you one minute and the next yer bouncing off the seat over something brilliant he pulls off.

Only he knows whether he saw Headland and if he had kicked it and extra 2mtrs it woulda bounced through and he'd be a hero - he didnt and footys full of what ifs.

I'm disappointed we didnt win but I think we have made progress this year, sure you can argue a loss is a loss but its not as bad a loss as the Roos despite what Cameronk will say - it was a tough close game - each sides made their fair share of blunders. Freo just made were more costly.
 
BB gun said:
It did get away, but usually those game even out over the course of the season. We never lead by more than 3 goals so St kilda were always a chance to win

True, but it's still frustrating as hell! :o
 

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FreoDocker said:
After leading pretty much all day. Don't get me wrong, I was happy with how we went about it for the majority of the match, but extremely disappointed in the result. Perhaps if you had said before the start of the season that we would go down to the saints by a point away, most people wouldn't have necessarily been that disappointed. But without looking at the bigger picture and viewing the loss in the context of the game, it was the one that got away.

yea thats a fair comment.
 
Come on guys lets get over it, next week the boys will be that much angrier and hopefully spur them on to a win in the Derby.
 
Signs are not that great though. Eagles have a relatively comfortable win at home on Sat night. We have a hard close demoralising loss in wet conditions with one of the worst flights back in Aus and played on sunday.

Hopefully we play like we did round 1.
 
BB gun said:
we lost away by 1 point against a top 4 side
Medhurst 9 touches 3 goals
Farmer 4 touches 1 goal

As long as either or both of them, particularly the latter, have a walk up start into the best 22 you'll have problems.
 
We lost by 1 point after a last quarter fade-out that was really pathetic but Medhurst wasn't the problem, we let all of ourselves down

In the end we can't let this loss get the better of us guys. A loss by 1 point in Antarctica against a side that could be pushing for a grand final spot if not the premiership whilst missing Hayden, Sandi, Schammer and most importantly Hadril is quite a good thought. Sure they were without Riewoldt but in the end had of we had Hadril, Riewoldt wouldn't have been an issue.

BUT having listed some of the positives if we're going to win a finals match we can't fall under the intense pressure again. This is a great learning experience and we can't let the margin or the fact that we probably did deserve it more get to us. We can't just go listing indiviual scapegoats like Macca or Medders (who actually played quite well), it's the teams fault for letting it get to that position. Umpires didn't help our cause either but when you're playing footy you'll always get the bad breaks.

This loss could work to our long term benefit of being able to pinpoint our problems in tight matches and being able to work through them.

Now boys, Big Derby, Let's bounce back this week :cool:
 
YAKUZA said:
As long as either or both of them, particularly the latter, have a walk up start into the best 22 you'll have problems.

Our list is devoid of quality forward pockets.

Who would you replace them with?
 

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medhurst what was he thinking, im pretty sure he would of seen or heard Dessy.
 
Shocking performance , CC himself said that the Dockers had little composure , hope they can change that for the derby and put in a decent performance
 
It mighten of looked liked it but i think we missed Haddrill, with Mcpharlin having to go to the last line of defence on Gehrig we lacked his run off the half back line and often looked static there.

We played a hell of a lot better last week compared to today, didnt have many passengers last week , today we carried a few in Farmer Woods and Macca.
The youngsters didnt make many blues i thought, pretty happy with the efforts of Dodd and Webster. Dunn needs to be given a extended run in the team, he'll be a player but needs to get used to the pace of AFL, got a massive kick on him. Thornton was good, getting better each game. Polly needs to be left in the back line for the foreseable future, hes reliable there and his kicking skills were good today.

Overall disapointed with the loss, i dont think we played too badly overall , seemed to come out without any major injury worries so i reckon we'll give West Coast a shake next week. Form doesnt mean a lot going into Derbys.
 
voodoo_86 said:
Our list is devoid of quality forward pockets.

Who would you replace them with?

You can't afford the luxury of two particularly when one in an undisciplined liability with a chip (log) on his shoulder and the other is an undisciplined attention seeking average very inconsistent player who thinks he is better than he actually is.
 
Give me a break... Medhurst is a quality forward pocket.

Frustrating at times, but also brilliant at other times. You have to take the good with the bad but not many better forward pockets going around.
 
No doubt my memory is both short and selective, but overall, I thought that was pretty much the best game I have seen Medhurst play away from Subi. Apart from anything else, he actually chased and tackled an opponent, and didn't abuse his team mates. For as long as he is doing the right team things and scoring goals to boot, he deserves his spot.

Having said that, I'm still not convinced that there is room for both Medhurst and Farmer, but a game where they scored half our goals between them doesn't really help me make that case either.
 

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