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Gnome Murphy

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You are a Joke Peter and the coaching Panel

Every youngster (Maybe not Hariss) has gone Backwards whilst you have been with our club we have not recieved one rising star nomination as well.

You let a hack like bassett get free ride,and drop a kid who has a great future with us and enormous talent after about two minutes on the field

"God this is killing me watch this man destroy our club"
 
He hadn't really earnt his spot in the side last week anyway. His Werribee form was only average. One game he gets in the best at the Bees and walks straight into the Doggies!! That was something I did not agree with. Let's see if he can go back to Werribee this week and dominate.

I'll agree to bring a kid in for one go and then drop is very harsh though, especially with his limited opportunities last week. And when the opposition this week is ...Richmond!!!

Players like McGuiness and Hargrave have done their time well at Werribee and deserve promotion.
 

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Originally posted by footyman
He hadn't really earnt his spot in the side last week anyway. His Werribee form was only average. One game he gets in the best at the Bees and walks straight into the Doggies!! That was something I did not agree with. Let's see if he can go back to Werribee this week and dominate.

I'll agree to bring a kid in for one go and then drop is very harsh though, especially with his limited opportunities last week. And when the opposition this week is ...Richmond!!!
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The first part of your argument is not relevant in this. The Fact was he was chosen to play seniors, spent most of it on the bench, then gets dumped a week later. How can this serve any purpose? If you are going to pick a player then give him a decent go. What does Rhode expect to achieve by dumping him so quickly without giving him a chance?

It's this kind of treatment that led me to start the other thread about how Rhode is mistreating the younger players. He hasn't got a clue.

Having a look at our team for this week we look slow and top heavy. We could use a bit of dash and I would have thought this week would have been a good time to give the young man a good run and let him do his stuff.
 
Originally posted by footyman
. His Werribee form was only average.
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Name some of the greats that played great reserves football

Paul Dooley,Mark Cullen,Jason Watts,Trent Bartlett, to name a few

Farren Ray is well ahead of VFL football "Please"
 
Richmond midfield is slow.
And over a big ground he could break open the play better as he can get out of a pack and find room to get up and go.

Absolutely stupid decision, and like last week served no purpose to have him in (except respond to supporter and match committee pressure) when he only got 2 or 3 lots of 3 minute spells, so late into a quarter that all he could do in the time spent is effectively lose out at the most.

I am interested if Hargrave gets to play forward

I am even more interested in seeing if Muff will be playing a loose man in defence like he has been at weribee every week I've seen.
Racked up possessions, fine, but accountability is something we need (Hellooo!!! Is anyone out there listening?!?!?!?:confused: )

At most we might have 2 defenders that play well as loose in defence. With Croft as 'experimental'

Before you justify Ray being dropped because he didn't really earn his spot , has Croft ?????
Hargrave and Muff are 50/50 in earning a senior recall.

If we wanted speed (the main reason why Minson hasn't gotten a gig) then why dump an attacking speedster for players that 'clean up' messes in the backline?

Are we trying to hold them to a 3 goal V 2 goal win???

Nothing in selection policy is making any sense :confused:
 
I simply can't understand this move. Why give a kid token game time in one of the biggest moments of his life and then drop him? Why on earth would you bring him in in the first place?

Makes you wish Rohde had simply got his token coaching time and then got dropped.

And Harrison's still in the side. :(

I give up.

Almost glad I'm going to miss the next month.
 
Originally posted by The Doctor
The first part of your argument is not relevant in this. The Fact was he was chosen to play seniors, spent most of it on the bench, then gets dumped a week later. How can this serve any purpose? If you are going to pick a player then give him a decent go. What does Rhode expect to achieve by dumping him so quickly without giving him a chance?

It's this kind of treatment that led me to start the other thread about how Rhode is mistreating the younger players. He hasn't got a clue.

Having a look at our team for this week we look slow and top heavy. We could use a bit of dash and I would have thought this week would have been a good time to give the young man a good run and let him do his stuff.
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Slow? How long have you all sooked that there are too many skinny runners in the team? You can't have it both ways.

If you read what I said, I agree that Richmond and Carlton are good times to give kids a go.

There is no purpose playing him last week and then dropping him, I agree with that point. Rather than question why he's dropped for this week, I am questioning how consistant good performers at Werribee were overlooked for selection at Doggies so Farren Ray could be selected last week.

And players spending large portions of a game on the bench are nothing new Doc. Neale Daniher does it a lot at Melbourne.

The three named this week deserve to be playing. To keep Farren Ray in, who else would you have dropped besides Power?
 
Originally posted by footyman
Slow? How long have you all sooked that there are too many skinny runners in the team? You can't have it both ways.

If you read what I said, I agree that Richmond and Carlton are good times to give kids a go.

There is no purpose playing him last week and then dropping him, I agree with that point. Rather than question why he's dropped for this week, I am questioning how consistant good performers at Werribee were overlooked for selection at Doggies so Farren Ray could be selected last week.

And players spending large portions of a game on the bench are nothing new Doc. Neale Daniher does it a lot at Melbourne.

The three named this week deserve to be playing. To keep Farren Ray in, who else would you have dropped besides Power?
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The sooking about skinny runners jibe is irrelevant in this discussion. As is what Melbourne do with their youngsters. I have posted in the Skipper/Hargrave thread what changes I would propose this week.

FM, the main argument here is that Ray was selected for the seniors and then dropped without being given a chance. Let's stick to that shall we.
 
If Werribee form is the sole criteria, then Cross would walk into our senior line up. He completely dominates in the VFL and has done so for at least a year now. I am also very disappointed with some of the selections this year, and also agree that players are being played out of their natural positions far too often.

Why has Power even been played in the seniors this year if he spends so much time off the ground. Likewise Farren last week (who did some nice things when he came on). As for Cooney, our coaching panel has no idea where to play him.

FWIW, I thought Boyd should be dropped this week. I'm a Boyd fan, but his lack of pace could be replaced with some run in the middle this week.

There seems to be too much of a knee jerk response from our coaching panel and not too much structure other than "kick it long to Jade".
 
Maybe it is a decision based on "horses for courses" especially since Harris is suspended. We have Croft at FB however as he has not set the world on fire at Werribee (from all reports) there may be some doubt as to whether he is a viable option and thus Shaggy may be a back up as well as Harrison (that is the reason he has not been dropped - that is the only reason i can think of). It is a good decision to bring in K-Mac to give us another forward option. Is he able to play a defensive role as well?

I to would like to see Farren Ray given more of an opportunity. I am sure throughout the season that he will.

I can't see what your problem with Bassett is Gnome - he has been playing quite well. In fact it is the defence which is not really where the problem lies more the shutting down (or lack of) or the midfield.
 

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I'm also very disappointed to see Farren dropped after only one game with a few cameo appearances. BUT, I think the selection panel realised that they might have got it wrong last week with Cooney, Faulkner and Ray in the same side.
 
Originally posted by Sedat!
If Werribee form is the sole criteria, then Cross would walk into our senior line up. He completely dominates in the VFL and has done so for at least a year now.

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He's always dominated in the VFL and then does bugger all in the ones
 
Originally posted by Gnome Murphy
You are a Joke Peter and the coaching Panel

Every youngster (Maybe not Hariss) has gone Backwards whilst you have been with our club we have not recieved one rising star nomination as well.

You let a hack like bassett get free ride,and drop a kid who has a great future with us and enormous talent after about two minutes on the field
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Bassett getting a free ride? He came in and has played well. Is your philosophy to drop players because they've played well? If Bassett was 20 you'd be wetting your pants about him. And you always say you rarely ever bag players, but you're always bagging the **** out of Bassett with such constructive criticism as calling him a hack

And has Hahn gone backwards in Rohde's time?

Maybe we should look at the sometimes timid play of guys like McMahon and Power instead of always blaming Rohde. McMahon doesn't do what it takes to play AFL, thats nobody's fault but his own

Over half our side is young guys. We have a very young list, they can't all play every week
 
Originally posted by The_Flying_Egg
He's always dominated in the VFL and then does bugger all in the ones
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He's only had minimal games and minimal ground time. If he had a chance to find his feet and did bugger all then I'd agree with you. But the fact is he hasn't. Rohde won't give him a chance.

He had good ground time R22 last year against Brisbane and was very good. He had minimal ground time against WC and Coll. He performed reasonably in those games apart from the last qtr against Cousins R1.

He has performed far better for Werribee than McMahon, Power, Boyd, Ray and Faulkner. For reasons I can't fathom Rohde appears reluctant to give him a decent shot in the 1s to see if he can make it as an AFL footballer.

He'd be in my 22 for sure.

Re Bassett - he has been better this year than he was before injury last year. Although he was beaten last week, he deserves his shot at the moment.
 
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I'm also very disappointed to see Farren dropped after only one game with a few cameo appearances. BUT, I think the selection panel realised that they might have got it wrong last week with Cooney, Faulkner and Ray in the same side.
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Agree with you dogs 13 that can be the onle reason he was dropped and out of the three which other would you have dropped?
 

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