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Figure this may seem bad timing in writing a thread such as this. Fev has come off a good game and this will come across as negative to many. Whilst he played well I felt his attitude was still fluctuating throughout the game. This has long been Fev's problem and I wonder if it connects to arrogance and insecurity. Many tell me that Fev's arrogance is what drives him yet I see him as perhaps in the top 10 most gifted players of all time.If he worked more on being secure I beleive that he would have no need for anything other than his pure footy ability in order to perform consistently at an elite level.

At this stage of his career he is perhaps in Carlton's top 50 of all time and the league's top 100-200. To me this is far below how he should be remembered. In the recent game he staged for very soft free kicks in the 1st and 3rd quarters where he lost his feet with almost no pressure from the defender. In the first quarter he got a soft free and in the 3rd play on with Fev sitting on the ground. A player with full confidence and composure in his abilities should not need to resort to such tactics. Further I see this sort of behaviour as very non team oriented.

Don't get me wrong Fev is my favourite player but unless he sorts out his attitude he will finish his career with the same up and down performances that have marked him up until now. He is heavily touted as the disease and the cure. If Carlton are to become a serious premiership threat then Fev must just become the cure. If Carlton and Ratten feel that he is beyond help or beyond their capability then they should look to move him on.

This would not be my choice as I think Fev can be reached. Looking at him with kids it is obvious that he is a very deep hearted person. However the composure he shows around kids seems to go out the window when he is around adults.As it stands Fev becomes highly competitive but not in a good way. He seems more intent on proving himself as worthy than actually going deep to be the best he can be.
 
I see him as a mad genius. I love him and then I hate him. You just gotta let him do his thing.
 
I don't think I've EVER seen Fev look insecure. He's just a natural extrovert supremely confident in his talent. Great to watch and something to celebrate. Media Losers will always try to bring down talent - that's why they're losers. :)
 
No matter what FEV does it gets scrutinised more than any other player in the league. Yes he plays for some free kicks, who in the league doesn't when they are being held? Many times he has gone for a mark this year with one bloke hanging off his neck or arms and he gets nothing. The thing with FEV the last couple of years is that he hasn't dwelled on the missed free kicks, he is chasing, he is tacking, he is providing pressure in the forward line and the other boys lift when they see FEV doing these things.

FWIW i think he has been harshly treated by the media this year when he puts his hand up or looks at the umpire for a free or if his man runs off him. He is a superstar and we should all be applauding him for what he has brought to the team this year.
 

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Re: Fevola Arrogance is just what we need more of

We need him at his arrogant best... the more arrogant the better.... I am dying to see finals fevola
 
Re: Fevola Arrogance is just what we need more of

We need him at his arrogant best... the more arrogant the better.... I am dying to see finals fevola

:thumbsu: He pisses the opposition off and gives his team mates confidence when he's showing off.

We don't want robots anyway, there's enough boring players already, he's like Richo, a great entertainer.
 
Re: Fevola Arrogance is just what we need more of

I am no fan of the bad Fev but I am very happy with his work ethic at the moment. Even when he is not getting the ball and kicking a bad full he is diggin deep and doing more team orientated stuff. He loves nailing an opponent be it kicking a goal, marking over them, running through them or taclkling hard. Keep up the good work big guy
ps shedding 6kg certainly has helped his mobility
 
What really pisses me off is that on "One Game at a Time" last night they showed a free kick/goal he received from a clear fake- fall to the ground- yet there must be at least 3-4 free he never gets per game due to holding on. He is hard done by compared to many other forwards.
 
He has clearly stated before that he loves the game and loves to have fun out on the ground. Seeing him kick goals and shove it up Cornes is what makes him play better.

The difference this year is that even if he doesnt kick a bag of goals, he is chasing down players, creashing packs and assisting others...i think he is miles ahead of others in his position.
 
I think he's in career best form, or close to. He had a bad patch earlier in the season due to the heel and especially following the miss against the Hawks he's a more complete player than he's ever been.

In the past he was solely a lead up player but in the past two years he's become very solid one on one. He's tackling more than he ever has in the past, he's working harder and finding more of the footy and his downs have become much less frequent.

His only negative at the moment is his kicking - had be been kicking at the same efficiency as he has in the past, he'd be headed for the 100 again. Has had 7 less scores than this time last year but he hasn't registered a score for kicks that would have sailed through easily in the past.

Mightn't be remembered as an all time great just yet but reputations are made in finals. He certainly doesn't lack confidence and the next few years might just be the platform to propel him into truly legendary status. The way he's going, barring injuries he could well be the club's greatest goal kicker of all time by 31.
 
Self confident i'd say more than arrogant is our fev. backs himself in most situations and more often than not he comes out on top. nothing wrong with a bit of self confidence.
 
I think its time people stopped thinking too hard about Fevola and the type of player he is. At 27/28 he can no longer be reached and you will never see a great shift in attitude. At the same time, there is little doubt his intensity, and work ethic off the ball is improving...he is know laying critical tackles and offers more than a marking target in the forward line.

Just let Fevola be and do his thing. He is what he is. Yes he has his faults but its hard to be overly critical of a guy who will kick 80+ goals this year and take down the coleman.

I don't think I have seen too many players as passionate about the Carlton footy club as this big bloke. This guy would bleed for the CFC. Nobody excites me more when they are near the ball (maybe on par with Eddie) because we know what a freak he is whether its pumping it from 65 through the big ones, taking that one hander that defies physical possibility or dribling it soccer style from row G in the pocket. He loves to get in the face of opposition supporters/fans...this is what drives him. The fact opinion is so divided about him and so many people cant stand him is testament to what an intriguing, brilliant player he is.

Wait for finals time and dare I say the magic we have seen from Fevola will continue and not only continue we will see Fev lift to a new level - if thats even possible.

Finals is the perfect recipe for Brendan to show his brilliance. I have a feeling he will be having a bloody big say in how we go come September.

LONG LIVE THE KING FEVOLA!
 

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Fev is Fev ..what you see out on the ground is what you get ...It's far too late to try and change him ..just hope he keeps kicking goals and playing for the team..i'm happy with his form and attitude.
 
One of the real characters in the game, used to dislike him but have warmed to him in recent years and as long as his on field intensity remains high and he keeps on kicking goals I'll be happy.
 
I don't think I've EVER seen Fev look insecure. He's just a natural extrovert supremely confident in his talent. Great to watch and something to celebrate. Media Losers will always try to bring down talent - that's why they're losers. :)

Probably a pretty accurate observation Parrot. However insecurity is an internal thing and is often masked by extroverted behaviour. Carey always looked confident too but was carrying much insecurity. For what it is worth I think Fev is a great bloke when in his comfort zone. However when buttons are pushed he falls apart at times.
 
No matter what FEV does it gets scrutinised more than any other player in the league. Yes he plays for some free kicks, who in the league doesn't when they are being held? Many times he has gone for a mark this year with one bloke hanging off his neck or arms and he gets nothing. The thing with FEV the last couple of years is that he hasn't dwelled on the missed free kicks, he is chasing, he is tacking, he is providing pressure in the forward line and the other boys lift when they see FEV doing these things.

FWIW i think he has been harshly treated by the media this year when he puts his hand up or looks at the umpire for a free or if his man runs off him. He is a superstar and we should all be applauding him for what he has brought to the team this year.

Some of your points are valid. However he is not consistently performing to the superstar level that his talent most certainly warrants. This is more to do with his self control than it is his opposition.
 

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Re: Fevola Arrogance is just what we need more of

:thumbsu: He pisses the opposition off and gives his team mates confidence when he's showing off.

We don't want robots anyway, there's enough boring players already, he's like Richo, a great entertainer.


I would not want to see him as a robot either. Big difference though between passion and destructive behaviour. As I mentioned in the post Fev is amazing around kids and certain people. This Fev is in no way a robot. However when he loses composure he does become a robot to the pressure around him.
 
I see him as a mad genius. I love him and then I hate him. You just gotta let him do his thing.
my feelings exactly.

i spend a lot of time swearing at Fev when he does something stupid (like a couple of those quick play-ons against Geelong), but i also spend a lot of time swearing in amazement at him. every now and then he'll do something that very few (if any) players in the league could do. like that diving one-hander he took against Collingwood in the first quarter. degree of difficulty off the charts. but he does it almost every week. how could you not be a little arrogant when you're pulling those stunts?

i don't mind the arrogance. he uses it as a weapon. it's not like he doesn't have the skills to back it up.
 
my feelings exactly.

i spend a lot of time swearing at Fev when he does something stupid (like a couple of those quick play-ons against Geelong), but i also spent a lot of time swearing in amazement at him. every now and then he'll do something that very few (if any) players in the league could do. like that diving one-hander he took against Collingwood in the first quarter. degree of difficulty off the charts. but he does it almost every week. how could you not be a little arrogant when you're pulling those stunts?

i don't mind the arrogance. he uses it as a weapon. it's not like he doesn't have the skills to back it up.

Top post. Sometimes I find myself screaming and yelling at Fevola's face on the television set. But as you said he does some amazing stuff on the football field that many others would never have the ability to do.

If I was one of the best forwards in the game I'd be arrogant too.. :rolleyes:
 
Arrogance is the wrong adjective, I'd put Warren Tredrea as arrogant or Chad Cornes, maybe even Michael Voss a touch arrogant.
Fev is confident, cheeky, bit like a naughty teenager....
A big harmless guy, but I;m loving his form at the moment.
We've psycho-analysed Fev to death...who cares really
 
Arrogance is the wrong adjective, I'd put Warren Tredrea as arrogant or Chad Cornes, maybe even Michael Voss a touch arrogant.
Fev is confident, cheeky, bit like a naughty teenager....
A big harmless guy, but I;m loving his form at the moment.
We've psycho-analysed Fev to death...who cares really

Spot on :thumbsu:
 

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