Gardiner/umpire clash under scrutiny

[benny's buddy]

Young Geelong forward Charlie Gardiner will come under video scrutiny after a heavy collision with a field umpire yesterday. Umpire Stefan Grun filed an incident referral report after the game to find out how the pair ran into each other midway through the third quarter at Skilled Stadium.

I thought this was a joke when I first read it, then I realised they were being serious.

Why would the AFL even bother looking into this? If the umpire had of watched where he was going, it wouldn't have happened.

 

[Bobby Giovanni]

That maggot was f'n terrible all day. On the wrong side of packs, caught behind play etc. Give him a months holiday up bush with Suzi.

 

[JUBJUB]

It would be a joke if he was cited for it.Charlie and the Crow player were running straight towards the ball.The dumb ump suddenly decides to run forward and never saw them coming.

I would've prefered Charlie to run through Justin Schmitt [ump #17].He screwed us all day,although he did give Charlie a dodgey free,for which he goaled.

Maybe that's why Charlie didn't get him.

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

Serious issue folks.

It is being looked at as we speak.

 

[GeeCat]

Gardiner cleared of umpire contact
10:56:54 AM Tue 4 May, 2004
Sportal

Geelong midfielder Charlie Gardiner will face no further action over his clash with field umpire Stefan Grun during the third quarter of Sunday’s clash with Adelaide at Skilled Stadium.

AFL video reports officer Ian Robinson determined on Tuesday that Gardiner and Adelaide’s Trent Hentschel were running hard at the ball with their eyes on the play. He said both players would not have expected an umpire to be in their path and that there was no negligence in Gardiner’s actions.

The AFL also said that Melbourne’s Philip Read’s clash with Carlton’s Andrew Walker during the fourth quarter at the MCG on Sunday was the result of a shepherd and that Read raised his arm in a defensive, protective manner and that the contact was inadvertent.


The contact been Collingwood’s Paul Licuria and Port Adelaide’s Josh Carr was also reviewed. Robinson said that while there was contact, that there was evidence to suggest the contact was intentional, reckless or careless. He said Licuria’s action was part of a natural re-balancing as he was bumped.

 

[JUBJUB]

I can't believe they wasted time reviewing it.You only need to see the video once to see it was Grun's own fault.

 

[Catman]

Should never have got to a review in the first place. I couldn't believe my eyes as I saw Grun run straight into the path of Charlie and Hentschel. He had his eyes totally fixed on the ball and simply didn't look where he was going. He knew this and should have admitted so, it would have saved a lot of time that was wasted viewing the incident.

 

[catattack]

It’s all good now, he has been cleared. But it’s evident enough when the player who runs into the umpire comes crashing down to the ground in pain that it wasn’t deliberate. Furthermore, if both players are running for the ball and the umpire suddenly runs into the firing line, there should be nothing brought into it if a player bowls the officiator over.

The umpires need to take responsibility for their own actions and decisions and not be protected by the governing body. They are at fault a lot of the time, stop accepting their mediocrity.

 

[peggie_sue_10]

charlie

Should never have got to a review in the first place.

The umpire should have been reviewed and had his eyes tested. If a player contacts an umpire they jump all over it but if, like in this instance, it is the umpires fault they don't admit that (possibly apologise if that's not taking it too far) and deal with him. But no, Charlie was still investigated and nothing has been done about the umpire. IMO he's lucky Charlie wasn't seriously injured, if that was the case they might have given him a pay rise. My point being, umpires should be just as responsible for making contact as the players are.

 

[benny's buddy]

What a complete waste of everyone's time.

 

[jim boy]

I don't have a problem with it being referred to review. As far as the umpire was concerned he got cleaned up from behind and didn't know what happened. He's not apportioning blame and he wasn't reporting anyone by sending it to review. He couldn't know whether gardiner was negligent or whether Hentschel bumped Gardiner into Grun. So rather than try and guess what happened and possibly report someone, he referred it to somebody independent to see if there was anything in it. That person decided there wasn't, justice done.

 

[*koulagirl]

Originally posted by Catman
Should never have got to a review in the first place. I couldn't believe my eyes as I saw Grun run straight into the path of Charlie and Hentschel. He had his eyes totally fixed on the ball and simply didn't look where he was going. He knew this and should have admitted so, it would have saved a lot of time that was wasted viewing the incident.

If it hadn't been reviewed...

The 'obvious' conclusion would have been the one to prevail, surely, however, if all 'obvious' conclusions were not reviewed then most likely a contentious incident which is 'obvious' to the umpires but not to everybody else, at their convenience, may slip through.

While this one may have been a waste of time, I'd prefer to see more reviews than less. Some may not be as much of a waste as one might think.