Good Samaritans....

[couchgrinder]

In light of the tragic death of a man who broke up a fight in Melbourne Sunday morning .... would you think twice about helping somebody out?

i recall a day at the races about 10 years ago, a guy was dragging a girl by the hair at flemington near the top of the driveway, when i grabbed the guy the girl then spat at me and abused me

what are you supposed to do , look the other way and pretend its not happening?????

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Mantis posted a similar thread recently. But when a few guys were honest enough to say they'd probably look the other way as they'd be too concerned for their own safety, Mantis had a go at them.

I think you will find people increasingly turn away, or at best call 000.

 

[Power King]

A thread has been made similar to this one recently.

According to Mantis and Campbell, if the man did not help out, he should have been labelled as a coward and as a sad individual. According to them, a stranger's life is worth more than your own, and the feelings of your own family, friends and even children aren't worth shit when it comes to this situation.

 

[red+black]

call 000
don't be seen calling 000
stay in the vicinity without drawing attention to yourself
assist police and paramedics when they arrive

 

[Inappropriate]

I recall my old swimming teacher asking me what I should do if I were confronted with a situation where somebody was drowning in an unknown body of water. I assumed the correct answer would be do jump in and try to help. WRONG!

1 dead person + 1 person with a shattered ego > 2 dead people

 

[magic_johnson!]

I recall my old swimming teacher asking me what I should do if I were confronted with a situation where somebody was drowning in an unknown body of water. I assumed the correct answer would be do jump in and try to help. WRONG!

1 dead person + 1 person with a shattered ego > 2 dead people

haha i think that's the first thing they teach you in any swimming session.

 

[mantis]

Ron Barassi says HI.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25531225-661,00.html

 

[BigBadCam]

Everyone's gotta die at some point.

 

[Copulator]

Don't you think it is circumstancial?

If someone is getting bashed, who is to say that the individual is not deserving of it and worth putting yourself at risk for?

Some situations are beyond your control anyway, it was nothing to do with courage, I am just not going to do something stupid like put myself at risk if some big agitated guy is hitting a woman or a group of guys is bashing someone etc

I think you have to evaluate the situation and approach it accordingly and not be a hero for the sake of it.

 

[JD-Roo]

When I was single I'd help out every time I saw something wrong happening, even when my friends would tell me to ignore it. Didn't matter if it was strangers or people I knew.

Got clouted a few times but generally felt that was the worst that could happen and felt that at least I'd done the right thing.

I still did once I got married, which tended to piss of my wife no end.

But once we had kids - forget it. Not worth risking them losing a parent. Especialy given the events of the last year or so. I'll ring in for help, but I'll keep moving thanks very much.

 

[HFC082]

never help out. you may die

 

[BigBadCam]

never help out. you may die

Shit happens.

 

[Barry Zuckercorn]

Just dont help out where Asians are involved. They all carry machetes in their baggy pants

 

[Tex_21]

I'd like to think I'd step in, but in reality you don't know until the situation is there. And its different up home to in Melbourne-less weapons are carried up here.

 

[HFC082]

Shit happens.

Not on my watch

 

[J-Train]

Just dont help out where Asians are involved. They all carry machetes in their baggy pants

A double dose of race generalisations here... All Asians carry machetes. All Asians wear baggy pants. Why don't go for the trifecta by throwing in a comment about how their vision in a brawl is much sharper due to their slanty eyes, or perhaps how they resort to physical violence more quickly because they are unable to respond to verbal taunts without mispronouncing the letter L.

Zuckercorn is a dirty racist!

 

[JimDocker]

It is a tough one.

About 12/13 years ago, I had just parked in Fremantle. My (first) wife was with me and our 2 small kids. This guy was walking his blue heeler but it was not on a leash. It ran up to a lady who was walking her little dog of some sort so she gently pushed the blue heeler away from her dog.

The guy started going off at her, "leave my f*****g dog alone ya bitch etc...". He then pushed her and stood staring into her face. He would have been about 23/24. She was in her 40's. I told my wife to watch the kids and I approached him and said " Mate, just leave her alone." "Why, What ya gonna do bout it - blah blah " I just looked at him and repeated leave her alone. and took a step towards him. He backed off and walked away.

The lady was very appreciative and later on that evening her husband approched me and thanked me. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time and I am glad that I did it.

If it had been a bull terrier that he was walking, I doubt that I would have intervened the same way. If any other circumstances were slightly different, I may not have. I felt like I could help and I did. A lot less people carried weapons then and I was younger and fitter. I would like to think that I would still step in help in some situations but it has to be weighed up at the time.

 

[red+black]

Zuckercorn is a dirty racist!

He's a fully sick boy.

 

[Barry Zuckercorn]

A double dose of race generalisations here... All Asians carry machetes. All Asians wear baggy pants. Why don't go for the trifecta by throwing in a comment about how their vision in a brawl is much sharper due to their slanty eyes, or perhaps how they resort to physical violence more quickly because they are unable to respond to verbal taunts without mispronouncing the letter L.

Zuckercorn is a dirty racist!

Anyone that knows me will tell you I'm no racist. I realise not EVERY Asian carries machetes and wears baggy pants. Only half of them do. The other half are nerds.

Anyway, how can I be a racist if I love Asian chicks (for their tight pussys)?

 

[Brad Goodman]

A double dose of race generalisations here... All Asians carry machetes. All Asians wear baggy pants. Why don't go for the trifecta by throwing in a comment about how their vision in a brawl is much sharper due to their slanty eyes, or perhaps how they resort to physical violence more quickly because they are unable to respond to verbal taunts without mispronouncing the letter L.

Zuckercorn is a dirty racist!

Did you know the lead cause of death at the hands of Asians is vehicular manslaughter due to their chronically sub-par driving ability.

 

[adelaide_40]

I probabaly wouldnt help because you dont know what could happen. Or who you are dealing with.

If by some chance i didnt run away and I stepped in and got killed if the person I was saving survived I would want them at least singing there goes my hero at my funeral.

 

[J-Train]

Did you know the lead cause of death at the hands of Asians is vehicular manslaughter due to their chronically sub-par driving ability.

Really? I thought it would be karate. Or starving whilst reading too many books at the library. Vehicular manslaughter? Interesting. Did it also state that 9 out of the 10 cars involved were either a Honda NSX or Nissan Skyline?

Zuckercorn is a racist!

 

[we57st]

It is a tough one.

About 12/13 years ago, I had just parked in Fremantle. My (first) wife was with me and our 2 small kids. This guy was walking his blue heeler but it was not on a leash. It ran up to a lady who was walking her little dog of some sort so she gently pushed the blue heeler away from her dog.

The guy started going off at her, "leave my f*****g dog alone ya bitch etc...". He then pushed her and stood staring into her face. He would have been about 23/24. She was in her 40's. I told my wife to watch the kids and I approached him and said " Mate, just leave her alone." "Why, What ya gonna do bout it - blah blah " I just looked at him and repeated leave her alone. and took a step towards him. He backed off and walked away.

The lady was very appreciative and later on that evening her husband approched me and thanked me. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time and I am glad that I did it.

If it had been a bull terrier that he was walking, I doubt that I would have intervened the same way. If any other circumstances were slightly different, I may not have. I felt like I could help and I did. A lot less people carried weapons then and I was younger and fitter. I would like to think that I would still step in help in some situations but it has to be weighed up at the time.

JD you're right - you need to take each situation for what it is, assess it and act accordingly. You can't make a blanket generalisation about whether to intervene or not. You need to weigh up the risks including possible unknown factors (eg, likely presence of weapons) before deciding what to do.

I must say the prevalence of knives/weapons generally these days would put me off intervening unless I was sure I could handle the situation.

 

[BigBadCam]

Not on my watch

Yeh right. I don't step in because I don't want to have a murder hanging over my head. If I got a criminal record for killing someone I would lose my job. If I wanted to kill them though, I'd just pull out a glock and go 'Chk, chk, boom!'