Hamstring Donors

[murphster]

After reading the Hartlett article on the Carlton website it reminded me of a suggestion i have for the Carlton Footy Club. When players go in for a Knee reconstruction the surgeons cut a piece out of there Hamstring to use to repair the ligaments in the knee, now IMO this is a clear case of robbing Peter to pay Paul in that the majority of players after coming back from there Knee Reco's have hamstring injuries nearly as soon as they come back which then keep them out for nearly another year, it is just ridiculous.

I can't remember exactly who it was but one of our Australian athletes did there knee and the surgeons used a donor hamstring to repair it, now why in the AFL do we continue to take pieces out of the players own hamstring which is obviously going to lead to hamstring tightness and hamstring injuries as soon as they are back from the knee reco.

The Carlton Footy Club should be sending out donor cards to all members so that in the event of there death there hamstrings can be donated to our club to be used in Knee recos for our players, IMO this is the sort of lateral thinking that we need to do, it would give us a distinct advantage in terms of getting our players back on the ground quicker after a Knee injury with no risk of further injury due to the shortening of the players own hamstring.

There is an obvious correlation between the repair of a knee and the subsequent hamstring tightness, and in Hartletts case tearing of the hamstring from the bone, as it happens far to often to be coincidence, it is time to try a different method of repair as this one is as i said earlier a clear case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Ps: They could take a piece out of my hamstring while i am still alive if it means getting an important player back quicker.

 

[Warwick]

One of the best threads i have read for a while. It's definately out there.

I have dealt with many patients who have undergone a hamstring allograft ACL replacement, and only a small percentage have hamstring problems. It's not robbing Peter to pay Paul - it doesn't necessarily make the hamstrings weaker.

You can't just go donating tendons - there is a huge chance for infection and the body rejecting a foreign object.

 

[murphster]

One of the best threads i have read for a while. It's definately out there.

I have dealt with many patients who have undergone a hamstring allograft ACL replacement, and only a small percentage have hamstring problems. It's not robbing Peter to pay Paul - it doesn't necessarily make the hamstrings weaker.

You can't just go donating tendons - there is a huge chance for infection and the body rejecting a foreign object.

I could name a fair few in the AFL over the past 5 -6 years that have had hamstring problems after coming back from a knee reco, i find it hard to believe it is coincidence. I would think that like anything else you can only stretch it so far before it lets go.

 

[stokesy]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

 

[BlueBelle]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

GOLD

 

[thylacine60]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

May be a late runner for post of the year.

 

[smithos]

It was Alyssa Camplin who had the donor tendon, but after the winter Olympics she was due to have the donor tendon replaced with the hamstring graft, if I remember correctly.

 

[Silvagnis]

Leigh Walker received an ACL from a dead person for one of his knee reconstructions.

 

[M_I_G]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

quality

 

[HBF]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

Don't you need them anymore mate?

 

[Johnny_3]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

lol you got my vote for post of the year

 

[Smell The Glove]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

You are saying it would be an improvement?

 

[HBF]

My post of the year still goes to Kooley in the Lara Bingle thread. Absolutely sensational.

 

[BlueFeaver]

After reading the Hartlett article on the Carlton website it reminded me of a suggestion i have for the Carlton Footy Club. When players go in for a Knee reconstruction the surgeons cut a piece out of there Hamstring to use to repair the ligaments in the knee, now IMO this is a clear case of robbing Peter to pay Paul in that the majority of players after coming back from there Knee Reco's have hamstring injuries nearly as soon as they come back which then keep them out for nearly another year, it is just ridiculous.

I can't remember exactly who it was but one of our Australian athletes did there knee and the surgeons used a donor hamstring to repair it, now why in the AFL do we continue to take pieces out of the players own hamstring which is obviously going to lead to hamstring tightness and hamstring injuries as soon as they are back from the knee reco.

The Carlton Footy Club should be sending out donor cards to all members so that in the event of there death there hamstrings can be donated to our club to be used in Knee recos for our players, IMO this is the sort of lateral thinking that we need to do, it would give us a distinct advantage in terms of getting our players back on the ground quicker after a Knee injury with no risk of further injury due to the shortening of the players own hamstring.

There is an obvious correlation between the repair of a knee and the subsequent hamstring tightness, and in Hartletts case tearing of the hamstring from the bone, as it happens far to often to be coincidence, it is time to try a different method of repair as this one is as i said earlier a clear case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Ps: They could take a piece out of my hamstring while i am still alive if it means getting an important player back quicker.

This may seem silly, but didn't that Aussie Skier (girl) have a graft from a dead dude!

 

[Mr.Kennedy]

I'll donate my balls to Ryan Houliham and Nick Stevens too.

CLASSIC

 

[Salaryman]

I'd never seriously considered organ donation before, but if i got hit by a bus next year, imagine having a part of you running around in Gibbs or Murph !! You could be a genuinely important part of the next Carlton premiership, brilliant Murph

 

[RememberMe]

More patela recos r done than hamstring ones.

 

[Bluebear]

This may seem silly, but didn't that Aussie Skier (girl) have a graft from a dead dude!

Yes she did. http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/ca...-tendon-surgery/2005/10/12/1128796589375.html

The risk factors for AFL players getting hamstring injuries does not inlcude history of ACL reco, regardless of donor site.
From Warren, Bennell and Gabbe (2006), the risk factors are:
Maximum speed and requirement to bend to pick up ball while running (remember SOS)
Previous hamstring strain
Age
Poor running biomechanics (esp over striding) (Richo)
Fatigue (most others)
Training program or game plan strategies including inadequate warm up prior to activity (rare in AFL)
Premature return to physical activity following a hamstring injury
Gluteus maximus weakness or activation problems.

Hope this helps.