High Possession - Low Impact

["The Roar Is Back"]

For a long time people where extremely critical of Jordan McMahon , myself included , for playing high possession, low impact and uncontested football !
Our 4 highest possession getters yesterday where Grigg 32 , Newman 31 , Houli and Lids 30, 3 of which most would consider in our top 5 users of the Footy ?
Interesting , our next highest was Nahas on 28 , who most rate as our best run and carry player ?
So do we rate these players to highly and there possessions although looking fantastic actually don't impact on a game , or is there other factors why we have such high possession games from our , "better users of the ball ", in such dismal team performances ?

 

[Croat tiger]

No point in getting lots of possies if you do nothing with them, that's been our problem the last two months. I remember players like knights, lambert and broderick always making their possies count rarely turning over the ball, they were real team players imo.

 

[Tassie27]

I for one am not enjoying their game plan atm. The high possession game in the past few weeks has really unravelled, especially in defence. We just don't have the skill to execute it and we are leaking goals.

 

[mitch richmond]

For a long time people where extremely critical of Jordan McMahon , myself included , for playing high possession, low impact and uncontested football !
Our 4 highest possession getters yesterday where Grigg 32 , Newman 31 , Houli and Lids 30, 3 of which most would consider in our top 5 users of the Footy ?
Interesting , our next highest was Nahas on 28 , who most rate as our best run and carry player ?
So do we rate these players to highly and there possessions although looking fantastic actually don't impact on a game , or is there other factors why we have such high possession games from our , "better users of the ball ", in such dismal team performances ?

Funny you mention Jordan McMahon. I always said playing in our defence is a no win situation with the ball coming down so hard and fast but at least he was 6ft1 and occasionally spoilt. I reckon Batchelor (188cm) might be the key. Although a forward at Under 18 level he looks like a defender who can be creative. The others (especially Houli who is listed at 180cm but closer to 175) are creative players who don't look like defenders.

 

[Cathal Brugha]

High possession football means also means low body impact. This is what they are really trying to achieve. Richmond are the softest ....and it pains me to say it......club in the AFL.

 

[PHX]

Not sure about that. Collingwood and Geelong play high possession footy and they manage to crush sides physically as well.

We're just doing it wrong.

 

[theflea]

Funny you mention Jordan McMahon. I always said playing in our defence is a no win situation with the ball coming down so hard and fast but at least he was 6ft1 and occasionally spoilt. I reckon Batchelor (188cm) might be the key. Although a forward at Under 18 level he looks like a defender who can be creative. The others (especially Houli who is listed at 180cm but closer to 175) are creative players who don't look like defenders.

pretty sure he was a defender in the u18's. yep game plan sucks but in the last q if the players wernt following orders then thats a coaching issue. send the the runners out with messengers. need a complete review of coaching structure not dimma gets the arse but we need to get a senior assistant plus maybe some ip from top clubs ie pies with bucks coming in may bring in some of his own assistants so some might move on ie neeld.

 

[Madison]

Our issue has never been our top end.

You would think Lids, Newy and (to a lesser extent) Houli and Grigg all having over 30 would be go a fair way to winning us the game.

Its the bottom half of our 22 that need to impact the game more.

It shouldn't need to be pointed out, but Collingwood and Geelong have players right from 1-15 having an impact, with 16-20 playing their role, with at most one or two passengers (on the weekend, Fasolo and Keefe for example).

We have a solid contribution from 1-6, then a dramatic fall away. We consistently have Cotch, Lids, Newy, JR, Vick, Rance Martin (though he has dropped off), probably throw Foley in there too and then Houli, Nahas, Grigg, King who are up and down (but should probably be making up the bottom of our 22 if you look at those names, apart from Houli who I rate), then I will excuse Helbig, Batch, Conca and Griff cos they haven't played enough and they all look like they will be good-very good players. The rest are passengers. Grimes and Moore would make a surprising difference I think, along with Astbury next year.

But where Collingwood have players like Blaire, Wellingham, Sidebottom, Beams, Toovey, O'Brien, Krak, Davis, Johnson contributing evenly, we have White getting 8-12 touches and never more, Edwards, Nason, McGuane, Thursty, Jackson, Browne, Hislop, Farmer etc.

 

[rideclutch]

Lids, Houli and Newman all getting high posessions can probably be linked to where they are playing on the ground.

They gather a lot of loose balls that come in from opposition quick kicks forward. For them to really have an impact, those are the players you would like having more kicks forward of centre and into our 50. Unfortunately without them in the backline, we'd probably never get it out of there (not that we're brilliant at it anyway)

 

[PUNTROADHAMMER]

I see far too many "..here, it's your problem now" disposals from Grigg.