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I won't miss Mark Webber

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The Aust F1 GF this weekend is the first one post-Mark Webber, and I have to say that I won't miss Mark Webber.

I have never been a fan of the guy. He is the master of excuses. Whenever he lost, he blamed the car, his teammate, the team, officialdom, the sun got in his eyes, it was that time of the month etc. It was always someone else's doing that we didn't win. He never said that he drove a poor race, or that his opponents were just too quick for him, and they were better on the day. Humility was not in Webber's vocabulary.

I told my F1 loving brother that I think that Webber retired because he had got to the last page of his favourite book, "101 Excuses For Losing".

Webber also loved playing the "victim". He was the Australian driver being held down by his team, and by the officials. He played the underdog card and tried to get the public and media to feel sorry for him.

When he had to drop back for Vettel, he acted very unprofessionally, and stirred by the media to turn on Vettel, who, if Webber had done the exact same thing, he would have been a hero. But Vettel wasn't Australian, so he was castigated. Webber always made it about himself.

Also, when he finally did win, he carried on with over-the-top celebrations, where he sounded like a woman on her wedding night. It was cringe-worthy.

I don't see why he couldn't just be someone who was respectful and humble. He still would have had the country behind him. But he chose the "stick it to the man" mentality which appeals to the great unwashed.

If any other racer acted like Webber did, they would be criticised for it, but, when it is an Australian doing it, it suddenly becomes okay. How hypocritical.

I am glad Webber is no longer there. Instead, I am going to go for Daniel Ricciardo in this race. So far he seems like a more grounded and more humble bloke. However, I don't feel he will ever get the same love from the media and public that Webber got, because he is a bit of a pretty boy (which most F1 fans, who are blokes, don't like e.g. Michael Clarke gets similar treatment), and he won't try to stick it to those above him , which won't make him as relatable.

Wonder how many posts in before someone accuses me of being unpatriotic? My problem is that I am not xenophobic.
 
I think it was more that Webber found he was most motivated with a "me against the world" outlook. That's not unusual at all. Backs against the wall and the like. So it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of his comments and attitude were just attempts to create that motivation in his mind.

I'm a Vettel fan, one of the few here. But of course I'll miss him. Fantastic driver. Great guy to have on the grid. One of the few who spoke his mind. He's a loss to F1 make no mistake. Would've been a worthy WDC.
 
I was going to make some smart arse quip about non regulars littering this board by start thread. But catman seems to have made some reasonable points, albeit bluntly.

I have never been a fan of the guy. He is the master of excuses...
In motorsport, you can do that and get away with it. I especially loved him blaming cars for his results from 02 to 08, when he could've done better in them anyway..

Webber also loved playing the "victim".
I remember following him from when he became known in aus motorsport circles (1995) to his last year before F1 (Formula 3000, in 01). He was always doing that, in one way or another. It was the single biggest thing that shit me about him.

If any other racer acted like Webber did, they would be criticised for it, but, when it is an Australian doing it, it suddenly becomes okay. How hypocritical.

I am glad Webber is no longer there. Instead, I am going to go for Daniel Ricciardo in this race. So far he seems like a more grounded and more humble bloke. However, I don't feel he will ever get the same love from the media and public that Webber got, because he is a bit of a pretty boy (which most F1 fans, who are blokes, don't like e.g. Michael Clarke gets similar treatment), and he won't try to stick it to those above him , which won't make him as relatable.

Wonder how many posts in before someone accuses me of being unpatriotic? My problem is that I am not xenophobic.
Cue, Frankster.
 
If any other racer acted like Webber did, they would be criticised for it, but, when it is an Australian doing it, it suddenly becomes okay. How hypocritical.
Oh but this times a thousand. Malaysia 2013/Silverstone 2011 is the prime example.
 

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Oh crap,c71 has found this board to whine on now :thumbsdown:


What, Jub Jub, no interesting picture to show me.

No gif of someone yelling "NOOOOOOO!" or anything.

You're getting old and starting to run out of material. Too bad. I enjoyed with your pictures, even if I don't agree with your posts.

Pick up your act, and I hope next time you respond to my post, you give me a picture to entertain me, to make me forget your nonsensical arguments.
 
What, Jub Jub, no interesting picture to show me.

No gif of someone yelling "NOOOOOOO!" or anything.

You're getting old and starting to run out of material. Too bad. I enjoyed with your pictures, even if I don't agree with your posts.

Pick up your act, and I hope next time you respond to my post, you give me a picture to entertain me, to make me forget your nonsensical arguments.




You must be the most miserable man in the world.All the threads you just are whinges about something.
Are you Michael J Gamble of Belmont ?
 
I think it was more that Webber found he was most motivated with a "me against the world" outlook. That's not unusual at all. Backs against the wall and the like. So it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of his comments and attitude were just attempts to create that motivation in his mind.
Yeah, it would have had nothing to do with the fact that his team mate was given preferential treatment with car parts, drivers orders, etc.
I'm a Vettel fan
Who'd of thought!
 
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You must be the most miserable man in the world.All the threads you just are whinges about something.
Are you Michael J Gamble of Belmont ?


Yeah, the picture's okay, but you can do better, Jub Jub.

Not one of your finest efforts!
 
Yeah, it would have had nothing to do with the fact that his team mate was given preferential treatment with car parts, drivers orders, etc.

Who'd of thought!


You wouldn't have a problem with the preferential treatment if it was Webber getting it.

Xenophobic hypocrite much!
 
You wouldn't have a problem with the preferential treatment if it was Webber getting it.

Xenophobic hypocrite much!
This kind of crap normally ends these threads

I suspect the life of this one will be short
 
This kind of crap normally ends these threads

I suspect the life of this one will be short
He's over the top but right. When team orders were in place to benefit Webber (Malaysia), all were in favour of them and breaching them was a cardinal sin. When they were against him (Silverstone) Webber was a hero for trying to rebel against them.

There is massive hypocrisy from many on this board, including the one Catman quoted. But he is going over the top with his posts.
 

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