Interchange rules - are "high endurance players" a factor?

[MaddAdam]

With a cap on the rotations logically players are going to have spend more time on ground.

Are players, usually mids, who run all day going to score more than they did last year, simply because they'll be on the ground an extra five or ten percent?

Take guys priced just under elite like Tom Scully or Ryan Bastinac or even Shane Savage. If they add 10 per cent to their score they are looking hugely cheap, especially given they'll rise quickly in value too.

 

[CaptScott]

Not sure, might be worth looking at stats for years when the interchange cap was similar (2011?)

 

[TedDougChris]

Be interesting to see if notorious fade out players (I'm looking at you Dusty) actually improve or go backwards with the new interchange cap.

Will physically being out there for longer contribute to more points, or will they very quickly drop off. Will the likes of Cross and co become more viable selections as they can run all day and keep running.. ?

 

[MaddAdam]

Be interesting to see if notorious fade out players (I'm looking at you Dusty) actually improve or go backwards with the new interchange cap.

Will physically being out there for longer contribute to more points, or will they very quickly drop off. Will the likes of Cross and co become more viable selections as they can run all day and keep running.. ?

Yep, this is what I'm on about. Good average players who can run all that pump up their numbers by sheer dint of being on ground more.

Applies to ruckmen too.

 

[Clint Beastwood]

Be interesting to see if notorious fade out players (I'm looking at you Dusty) actually improve or go backwards with the new interchange cap.

Will physically being out there for longer contribute to more points, or will they very quickly drop off. Will the likes of Cross and co become more viable selections as they can run all day and keep running.. ?

Gaff, if he can break the tag. Will be interesting to see.

 

[antfrax]

Is Gaff known for his tank or the opposite? I was considering him.

Dustin Martin does fade out sometimes but he still maturing and has the beast potential.

 

[TedDougChris]

Yep, this is what I'm on about. Good average players who can run all that pump up their numbers by sheer dint of being on ground more.

Applies to ruckmen too.

It's an interesting point. I would imagine, that players with a lesser tank will either have one of two things happen.

1. They'll rack up more points as they are forced to stay out there.
2. Or they'll be rotated more frequently, giving more TOG to the endurance style players. So their points will remain similar, but others will rise.

It'll be interesting to see how it goes.

Ruckman will be interesting too, and it may work in favour of the more mature players rather than the young guns..

 

[TedDougChris]

Gaff, if he can break the tag. Will be interesting to see.

The player most interesting to see the impact on will be Swan, the notorious bench-rotatee. But all clubs will have these type of players..

Are the pre-season games under the new rules for interchange ? Be interesting to see any data coming out from that...

 

[TedDougChris]

Dustin Martin does fade out sometimes but he still maturing and has the beast potential.

So does Tomic...

 

[Clint Beastwood]

The player most interesting to see the impact on will be Swan, the notorious bench-rotatee. But all clubs will have these type of players..

Are the pre-season games under the new rules for interchange ? Be interesting to see any data coming out from that...

True, I was just looking from a selfish West Coast perspective Swan is that type of player, round 1 and the NAB cup (assuming those rules are in place) will be very interesting to see from a DT point of view.

 

[TedDougChris]

True, I was just looking from a selfish West Coast perspective Swan is that type of player, round 1 and the NAB cup (assuming those rules are in place) will be very interesting to see from a DT point of view.

Agreed. Libba was one of the most heavily rotated Dogs player, so again, I'll be watching him closely as well.

 

[MaddAdam]

Agreed. Libba was one of the most heavily rotated Dogs player, so again, I'll be watching him closely as well.

What will be key is if guys who get rotated a lot can play another role. Guys like Ziebell and Cunnington at North need a lot of rotating but will be able to rest forward and snag goals.

 

[TedDougChris]

What will be key is if guys who get rotated a lot can play another role. Guys like Ziebell and Cunnington at North need a lot of rotating but will be able to rest forward and snag goals.

Agreed. The more versatile players will be forced to recover while up forward, the less versatile may end up with less TOG. Be interesting to see how many of fringe players end up getting dropped as they cannot rotate anywhere but one position.

If I had the time I'd look into some statistical analysis, but I dont..... It'd be interesting to see the average TOG develop for the younger guys across the first 3 - 5 years of their respective careers. You could look at the historic trends and then try to extrapolate what could happen this year.

 

[CaptScott]

Posted in SC as well

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...-on-new-contract/story-fni5f6hd-1226804983970

Speaking of endurance, the pig is looking in shape!

 

[CaptScott]

Just saw some figures. Average interchanges last season was 134 per game, been capped at 120 this year. Not a huge drop.

 

[TedDougChris]

Just saw some figures. Average interchanges last season was 134 per game, been capped at 120 this year. Not a huge drop.

Some clubs were way over that from memory. And the trend has been for increased interchanges and that has been building for some years. It'll be interesting to see how the change impacts both certain clubs and certain players. Not just Swan, but others (Stringer from the Dogs for example) with talent, but not the time to build endurance. And those who have made a name for burst players, but not endurance athletes...

TBH, it's another screw around with the rules that I didn't need. There are enough bloody variables in this game as it is, without having the halfwits in charge changing the rules every 5 minutes..

 

[antfrax]

So does Tomic...

Tomic doesn't appear to have the mental strength. But he is by himself. Dusty has Cotchin, Deledio and Co to help him when his brain let's him down. Not to mention Hardwick.

There have been a lot of sports people that have lacked discipline but been a gun at their sport. I could name a heap of soccer players(Maradona, Zidane, Stoichkov, Roy Keane, Cantona etc) McEnroe is only tennis player I can think of at the moment.

 

[TedDougChris]

Tomic doesn't appear to have the mental strength. But he is by himself. Dusty has Cotchin, Deledio and Co to help him when his brain let's him down. Not to mention Hardwick.

There have been a lot of sports people that have lacked discipline but been a gun at their sport. I could name a heap of soccer players(Maradona, Zidane, Stoichkov, Roy Keane, Cantona etc) McEnroe is only tennis player I can think of at the moment.

I understand where you are coming from, I just don't believe Martin wants it enough.... He'll most likely always be a wasted talent. What could have been, that sort of thing....

 

[Ants]

Before hand there were 18 players on the field at any time, now there will be the same number. Given the odds that the players out there will be either more tired or playing in positions they're less use to, odds are that overall points will drop.

So it may be a case of figuring out whose points are going down and avoiding them.