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True but your life experiences/skills wouldn't have been called on in that IQ test last night.
Travelling, enjoying foreign experiences such as theatre and arts and other experiences make you more cultured rather than "smart"
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True but your life experiences/skills wouldn't have been called on in that IQ test last night.
Travelling, enjoying foreign experiences such as theatre and arts and other experiences make you more cultured rather than "smart"
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Can't be...
eg: 50 year old and a 20 year old with a mental age of say 70...
70/50 X 100 = 140
70/20 X 100 = 350
So even if they got the same number of questions right(mental age??) the younger person would have the higher I.Q. This is the opposite of what the y are saying?
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Well you sure arent intelligent enough yet to have realised never to argue with me
No Rohan - life experiences and skills expand your knowledge and how you see things, you also learn to look at things differently. Questions last night included skills such as using your memory and observation. School with never provide you with this type of education, only life will teach you to look at things in different ways
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Of course. The professors themselves said getting a low IQ score on this quiz thing doesn't mean much in the sense that there's factors like the environment and other 'skills' to consider. I myself got an IQ of 120. Got smashed in the second part of the language section (7-12) only got one right. When Ed went thru the answers i just knew i should have got them right. Section by section i got 7 out of 12 for the language, all the spatial right, 1 wrong in the arithmetic, 2 wrong in the memory, 3 wrong in the reasoning, and 4 wrong in the learning for a raw score of 61.
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Invalidity of Addition
'IQ theory, now outdated, saw intelligence as singular, and therefore, added all the assessments linearly as one might add the total gas being put into your car's tank. Each new gallon adds in the same way the previous gallons did, and so your intellectual fuel was judged.
However, since intelligence is multi-dimensional it makes no sense to add linearly. Use a box as an analogy. Measure the length of its sides and add those numbers together. What useful information do you now have? None really! Boxes of many different sizes and shapes will all give the same linear measure.
The preference that many of us working in education have is to throw away this inane need to try to describe something as complex as intelligence with a single number.'
'IQ theory, now outdated, saw intelligence as singular, and therefore, added all the assessments linearly as one might add the total gas being put into your car's tank. Each new gallon adds in the same way the previous gallons did, and so your intellectual fuel was judged.
However, since intelligence is multi-dimensional it makes no sense to add linearly. Use a box as an analogy. Measure the length of its sides and add those numbers together. What useful information do you now have? None really! Boxes of many different sizes and shapes will all give the same linear measure.
The preference that many of us working in education have is to throw away this inane need to try to describe something as complex as intelligence with a single number.'
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Vector Concept
If you are measuring a container, such as a box, or how much understanding a given mind can handle, there are a few questions you can ask. One would be, "what is the longest object I could put in that box?" Or, "what is the longest distance across this container?" In mathematics this idea is known as a vector. Assuming your box to be rectangular you may measure the edges and then use the Pythagorean theorem to determine this distance: L2 + W2 + H2 = D2.
Applying this idea to intelligence would require measuring each intelligence separately and using this formula to put the intelligences together. This implies you are asking the question, "What is the farthest that this mind can reach?" (A pretty brazen question, isn't it?)
Volume Concept
Another question you might ask about your container is, "How much can it hold?" This is known as volume. Again addition won't do the trick. If your container is rectangular you can find volume by measuring an edge for each dimension and multiplying those numbers together: V = LWH.
To apply this to intelligence would require measuring each intelligence independently, and then multiplying those numbers together. This would be to ask the question, "How much understanding can this mind hold?"
Shortcomings
Both the vector concept and the volume concept carelessly assume that the separate intelligences will function together. Although this is a weak assumption, it is still a better assumption than measuring intelligence in all directions and simply adding all the results together.
Also, intelligence is only as good as the culture and environment it must function in. Each culture places different value on different strengths. In America, the people who prove to be the brightest in terms of what schools assess, rarely rise to the economic top, they typically stay in the middle. As a result, intelligence may need to be defined according to culture, SES class, and personal life context.
Summation
Measuring intelligence by adding together scores in many different subjects, as done in IQ calculations, is totally invalid.
We suggest no attempt be made to describe intelligence with a single number.
Vector and volume concept may have some merit.
If you are measuring a container, such as a box, or how much understanding a given mind can handle, there are a few questions you can ask. One would be, "what is the longest object I could put in that box?" Or, "what is the longest distance across this container?" In mathematics this idea is known as a vector. Assuming your box to be rectangular you may measure the edges and then use the Pythagorean theorem to determine this distance: L2 + W2 + H2 = D2.
Applying this idea to intelligence would require measuring each intelligence separately and using this formula to put the intelligences together. This implies you are asking the question, "What is the farthest that this mind can reach?" (A pretty brazen question, isn't it?)
Volume Concept
Another question you might ask about your container is, "How much can it hold?" This is known as volume. Again addition won't do the trick. If your container is rectangular you can find volume by measuring an edge for each dimension and multiplying those numbers together: V = LWH.
To apply this to intelligence would require measuring each intelligence independently, and then multiplying those numbers together. This would be to ask the question, "How much understanding can this mind hold?"
Shortcomings
Both the vector concept and the volume concept carelessly assume that the separate intelligences will function together. Although this is a weak assumption, it is still a better assumption than measuring intelligence in all directions and simply adding all the results together.
Also, intelligence is only as good as the culture and environment it must function in. Each culture places different value on different strengths. In America, the people who prove to be the brightest in terms of what schools assess, rarely rise to the economic top, they typically stay in the middle. As a result, intelligence may need to be defined according to culture, SES class, and personal life context.
Summation
Measuring intelligence by adding together scores in many different subjects, as done in IQ calculations, is totally invalid.
We suggest no attempt be made to describe intelligence with a single number.
Vector and volume concept may have some merit.
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Won a dozen off a bloke from work, I got 131 he got 100. He reckons his missus scored 151+, no way she could be that intelligent as she's been married to him for so bloody long.
59 from 76 ,26 to 40 age bracket.
Thats 121, I have no idea what this means or proves.
Language, Arithmetic and Reasoning were my winners, I also realised I have a hopeless short term memory.
Thats 121, I have no idea what this means or proves.
Language, Arithmetic and Reasoning were my winners, I also realised I have a hopeless short term memory.
Language: 8/12
Spatial: 13/14
Arithmetic: 10/12
Memory: 11/12
Reasoning: 13/14
Learning: 10/12
Total Score:65/76
This equates to an IQ of 130 for a 16/17 year old.
When they went over the answers, I was able to answer most of the questions that I had originally got wrong. I think I have a photographic memory, which certainly helped me a great deal in the spatial, memory and reasoning sections.
I thought the questions were extremely easy and I find it hard to believe that I could have an IQ of 130.
And whats with the questions about the year the titanic sunk and the acadamy award winner in 1939?? These questions are general knowledge questions, not IQ questions!
Spatial: 13/14
Arithmetic: 10/12
Memory: 11/12
Reasoning: 13/14
Learning: 10/12
Total Score:65/76
This equates to an IQ of 130 for a 16/17 year old.
When they went over the answers, I was able to answer most of the questions that I had originally got wrong. I think I have a photographic memory, which certainly helped me a great deal in the spatial, memory and reasoning sections.
I thought the questions were extremely easy and I find it hard to believe that I could have an IQ of 130.
And whats with the questions about the year the titanic sunk and the acadamy award winner in 1939?? These questions are general knowledge questions, not IQ questions!
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Just regarding the debate as to whether your intelligence increases with age:
It is generally accepted in cognitive psychology that your fluid intelligence decreases in your later years (maths, spatial ability and the like) but your crystallised intelligence increases in later years (general knowledge, language skills, etc).
It is generally accepted in cognitive psychology that your fluid intelligence decreases in your later years (maths, spatial ability and the like) but your crystallised intelligence increases in later years (general knowledge, language skills, etc).
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So bascially it doesn't advantage, or disadvantage any age groups with this sort of test. Therefore the results shouldn't be scaled at all??
Got to agree with that. Knowing about movies or other things proves nothing about intellegence, that's knowledge, and something entirely different.
My iq is apparently 133. I've done a few tests with similar results, so I assume it's about right. I did the best in memory and worst in that last section. How on earth is a marriage more important than convicting a criminal, especially if it's a serious criminal? I got angry at myself because I answered the right answer there, but thouight about it too much and changed it.
The one I still don't like is the "peturb" one. Again I started off with the right answer, but then realised about the tense so changed it. There was another one in the language thing with two sayings that meant exactly the same thing, but I can't remember it now. (which makes me wonder why I did well in the memory)
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I got 109 and am very disappointed since I did an IQ test last year on emode.com and got 126
I find this hard to believe, considering you think that Jarrad Schofield is a better player than Matthew Pavlich, and that Cassisi plus a draft pick has the same trade value as Pavlich...
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Believe what you like, doesn't bother me.
Never once did I make either of those comments, I said I wouldn't trade Schoey for Pavlich, that's all.
I also did not say Cassisi and a draft pick has the same trade value as Pavlich, I said that is all Freo would get for him. Seeing as though Freo already have salary cap problems they cannot afford to bring in another gun player therefore they would be looking for quality younger players and/or draft picks which they can develop in the future.
However this concept may be hard to fathom for someone with an IQ of only 130
That was a joke BTW.I have a couple of really cool tests, i'll see if I can find them and post them on BF.
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Yep. Go to http://sites.ninemsn.com.au/minisite/testaustralia/default.asp
I've just done the test now. Was going to do it when it was on telly last night; but was chatting on MSN, lost track of the time and missed the start of it.
They'll email me my result within 24 hours.
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This is a genuine psychological test.
It is a story about a girl. Whilst at the funeral of her own mother, she met this guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be, that she fell in love with him there and then... A few days later the girl killed her own sister.
Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?
Everyone can give an answer, don't worry if you don't think it is right.
I'll post the answer in a little while
It is a story about a girl. Whilst at the funeral of her own mother, she met this guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be, that she fell in love with him there and then... A few days later the girl killed her own sister.
Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?
Everyone can give an answer, don't worry if you don't think it is right.
I'll post the answer in a little while
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Something to do with the drugs she was taking.
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Answer:
She was hoping that the guy would appear at the funeral again. If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a famous American psychologist used to test if one has the same mentality as a killer.
Many arrested serial killers took part in this test and answered it correctly. If you didn't answer correctly - good for you. If your
friends hit the jackpot, may I suggest that you keep your distance.
She was hoping that the guy would appear at the funeral again. If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a famous American psychologist used to test if one has the same mentality as a killer.
Many arrested serial killers took part in this test and answered it correctly. If you didn't answer correctly - good for you. If your
friends hit the jackpot, may I suggest that you keep your distance.