Jason Cloke

[Jasiano]

There were big wraps on his season last year (2005) though from memory. Correct me if Im wrong.

You're correct.

He made the VFL 2005 team, played in that interstate clash the SANFL? Or was it the WAFL they played?

Anyway, he made the "ALL VFL 2005 TEAM". As for this season, he wasn't AS good. Well, Bendigo had a pretty average year thats for sure.

Doubt he'll make it this year.

 

[Longy413]

Doering is a fantastic VFL player, but he plays loose most of the time. He isn't a traditional defender, he reads the play well but the game at that level is played at his pace.

I'm not sure he wouldn't get exposed playing that position/role at AFL level.

 

[Crave]

Doering is a fantastic VFL player, but he plays loose most of the time. He isn't a traditional defender, he reads the play well but the game at that level is played at his pace.

I'm not sure he wouldn't get exposed playing that position/role at AFL level.

Very similar to Julian Kirzner also

 

[blumfieldisback]

Your right and i knew someone would say that. Nevertheless, Cloke played in two big final series and did miss that Grand Final due to suspension.

Henneman...Oh god. How many chances has that guy had in just about every key position down the spine? Ruck included!

I just can't see it...Recruiting a FF to player CHB. Not going to happen.

Actually, talking of ex players who never made it. Jordan Doering has had a very, very good last couple of seasons in the VFL. Playing at CHB and running off his opponents with great agility setting up attacks.

listen mate, bradshaw is more then capable of playing chb then inch hitting at chf which would provide more value to our team then cloke thats what everyone is pointing too. You know lepptisch was a full forwrad before matthews went to brisbane, carey played CHB for north adelaide before joining the roos, jason dunstall and ableet were played across half forward before becoming two of the greatest. you obviously havn't researched this argument enough or have only just started watching footy from round 15 this year???????????????????

hmm steve silvagni full back of the century well he would never have been if you had been coach???????????????

 

[footy_rulz]

I'm not SAYING THAT!!!

I'm just saying that his a much better option than Bradshaw back there.

1) he has more experience back there.
2) he's played their in Grand Finals.
3) his build and agility suits CHB much better than Bradshaw.
4) Bradshaw is a FF or FP.

Yes but what did he do in those Grand Final"s"? He played one of them in 2003 at CHF and played a dog of a game. I remember Mick Malthouse saying after the game he played better the year before in the GF than htis year (2003)!

 

[bradrowe#32]

I don't think Cloke is as bad as everyone thinks. This year, he had a fantastic pre-season, got super fit and then didn't get his chances. And when he did play, Malthouse played him out of position, such as the time he played on (and got murdered) Pavlich. He does have some very good match-ups however, such as Aaron Hamill.

He only played 7 games this year and of those, 3 times he had more than 18 disposals and 10 marks. As with all trades, if you can get him for a good price, then I think you should.

 

[Jasiano]

I don't think Cloke is as bad as everyone thinks. This year, he had a fantastic pre-season, got super fit and then didn't get his chances. And when he did play, Malthouse played him out of position, such as the time he played on (and got murdered) Pavlich. He does have some very good match-ups however, such as Aaron Hamill.

He only played 7 games this year and of those, 3 times he had more than 18 disposals and 10 marks. As with all trades, if you can get him for a good price, t
hen I think you should.

And i'm sure you'd agree it is a much better option than getting Bradshaw to play at CHB?

 

[bradrowe#32]

And i'm sure you'd agree it is a much better option than getting Bradshaw to play at CHB?

I would probably agree with that. Bradshaw is a pretty decent CHB. Cloke is 4-5 years younger than Bradshaw, which may suit Essendon's youth policy better.

 

[Jasiano]

listen mate, bradshaw is more then capable of playing chb then inch hitting at chf which would provide more value to our team then cloke thats what everyone is pointing too. You know lepptisch was a full forwrad before matthews went to brisbane, carey played CHB for north adelaide before joining the roos, jason dunstall and ableet were played across half forward before becoming two of the greatest. you obviously havn't researched this argument enough or have only just started watching footy from round 15 this year???????????????????

hmm steve silvagni full back of the century well he would never have been if you had been coach???????????????

I see your point.

Silvagni stayed at the same club though. He wasn't traded to play at a completely different position than his best. Also, his build suited FB and that's why he was given the oppertunity there. Also, Silvagni was still a young player. Bradshaw is 27/28? Too late, especially in modern day footy.

Bradshaw in my opinion is such a typical FF that it would be a mistake to recruit someone like that at this stage. Look at how many big quality talls we have up forward. Lloyd, Lucas, Johns. Hird also plays pretty tall.

So if we did get him it would be as a CHB, and just about that only.

Would be such a gamble.

 

[Jex]

I see your point.

Silvagni stayed at the same club though. He wasn't traded to play at a completely different position than his best. Also, his build suited FB and that's why he was given the oppertunity there. Also, Silvagni was still a young player. Bradshaw is 27/28? Too late, especially in modern day footy.

Bradshaw in my opinion is such a typical FF that it would be a mistake to recruit someone like that at this stage. Look at how many big quality talls we have up forward. Lloyd, Lucas, Johns. Hird also plays pretty tall.

So if we did get him it would be as a CHB, and just about that only.

Would be such a gamble.

Whether Cloke is a better CHB than Bradshaw is irrelevent. He can play as a loose man in defence, but other than that, he's plops. I used the word plops, because it's school holidays.

 

[Jasiano]

Whether Cloke is a better CHB than Bradshaw is irrelevent. He can play as a loose man in defence, but other than that, he's plops. I used the word plops, because it's school holidays.

It's not irrelevent at all. We're comparing the two and seeing who would be best suited at CHB in our current team.

 

[Jex]

It's not irrelevent at all. We're comparing the two and seeing who would be best suited at CHB in our current team.

You can compare Cloke to anyone and everyone, but nothing will change the fact that he isn't (and never will be ) a good CHB.

 

[Jasiano]

You can compare Cloke to anyone and everyone, but nothing will change the fact that he isn't (and never will be ) a good CHB.

All i'm saying is the guy has more talent for CHB than Bradshaw and we'd be better of actually recruiting a CHB FOR CHB! Rather than Bradshaw who is a FF.

 

[DaSawx]

All i'm saying is the guy has more talent for CHB than Bradshaw and we'd be better of actually recruiting a CHB FOR CHB! Rather than Bradshaw who is a FF.

Then don't bother with either, I'd rather McPhee or even Kepler

 

[Jasiano]

Then don't bother with either, I'd rather McPhee or even Kepler

Agreed.

 

[mickyt888]

jason cloke it a dud jesus he isnt anywhere near as good to even make the collingwood team we dont need him! and dont want him. if he joinsessendon i will go watch essendon at telstra dome or mcg and be begging he breaks his arm or soemthing.

 

[matty lloyd the champ]

We need a CHB and his might not be at Collingwood next year
wat do u think

The last thing we need is a Collingwood dud (Jason Cloke) running around for Essendon.

Why would we replace Bolton when both of them are just as bad?
I would prefer Kepler Bradley, Mcphee over Cloke

 

[Citizen Erased]

OH MY GOD NOOOOOO! Not only is he missing a footy brain,he is missing one altogether!.....