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Jobe Watson = Reliable
Jobe Watson = Liable

I think the first one makes the most sense. Jobe Watson is a gun player and if he can slightly improve his kicking then he will be highly regarded among everyone. I rate him, some don't that is just the way it is.
 
L_J_T said:
Jobe Watson = Reliable
Jobe Watson = Liable

I think the first one makes the most sense. Jobe Watson is a gun player and if he can slightly improve his kicking then he will be highly regarded among everyone. I rate him, some don't that is just the way it is.
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His kicking has improved......pretty sure he hit most targets and his left foot snap at goal:eek:
Seen him at training last season going though his kicking drills seems to have paid off:thumbsu:
 
Sir James said:
His kicking has improved......pretty sure he hit most targets and his left foot snap at goal:eek:
Seen him at training last season going though his kicking drills seems to have paid off:thumbsu:
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He had a 95% kicking efficiency on the weekend. He and Stanton have both improved their kicking this year; great to see!
 

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cooper6 said:
surely hille is more important than watson. watson is a very good player but is far more dispensable than hille.
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David Hille's season thus far has been sub-standard. He had a par performance on Saturday night but was beaten in the hit outs.

Jobe Watson playing well when he is getting little help from our ruckmen is an indication of exactly how important he is.

David Hille is highly important, but Hille playing well just makes Jobe's job easier.
Hille's importance is also magnified because of a lack of depth in that position, it's only because of that (IMO) that Hille remains more important than Jobe.

Davey is in that group as well.
 
Too slow, not fit enough, butches the ball every time he gets it, terrible kick for goal.
 
Anyone can hit a handball target from 2m, loses handball accuracy when he goes too far, only good cos Hille wins the taps, has no influence on the game, unaccountable, his man does more damage than he does.

DELIST!
 
Too tall for a midfielder.

Too small for a KPP.

Too slow for an on-baller.

Too many handballs.

Too unaccountable.

Too ineffective on big grounds.

Too many teeth for Collingwood.

Too good for Carlton.

Just good enough for a Crichton.
 
ghostdog said:
Lol! That's hilarious! :D We are talking about Jobe right?
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Yeah, he can't play on the big grounds at all.

Face it mate, he's average. Anyone can handball.
 
Would love to see his kicking efficiency.

Could almost guarantee that he will be inthe bottom 1% in the league!

And i dont like the way he walks. Looks too much like his old man (the watson who could play) the way his head moves up and down.
 

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Ben the Gooner said:
Yeah, he can't play on the big grounds at all.

Face it mate, he's average. Anyone can handball.
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I feel like I'm getting a total wind up here. I usually don't buy into this devil's advocate rubbish but you've got a bite out of me now.

Maybe he does only handball a couple of metres mostly, but when you play in and under as he does it's often that two metre handball that buys the recipient two metres of space from their opposition. The quality of Jobe's handballs and the speed with which he delivers them is terrific. Add to that the improvement he's shown since last season and the season before, and perhaps those long incisive handballs are an aspect of his game that he should work on, but to claim he should be delisted is just dopey. Hocking would be delisted before Jobe.

As for getting to play simply because he's SO32, I would have thought it would be more a case of being considered because of his pedigree and the environment he was nurtured in, the culture, not just because he's SO32, which is a simplistic argument at best.

I can't believe I just fell for the devil's advocate! :mad: You bastards!

BTW BtG, I wanna play Hangar Music Wars please. How do I get on?
 
My prospectus says his kicking efficiency went down 12% last year.

60% kicking efficiency (bearing in mind that kicks to contests can be "effective" regardless of who wins the ball) is embarrassing to the club.

If only he inherited 1% of his dad's talent.
 
ghostdog said:
I feel like I'm getting a total wind up here.
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Ding ding ding!

Jobe is possibly the most under-rated player in the comp, and would walk into any side.
 
If anyone still has genuine concerns over Jobe's kicking then..

According to Champion Data...

"despite a perception he is a poor kick his efficiency of 77% was the AFL average for a midfielder in 2006."

Outside mids boost that average. So for an inside mid that's pretty decent. And most people would agree he's a better kick now.

Jobe was never a poor kick or even below average. Ever.

Neither was Stanton. They were prone to the occasional clanger, but not nearly as many as some people would like to believe.

Palmer, on the other hand.. is the official No.1 clanger king of the AFL! Congrats Rhys!
 

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Ben the Gooner said:
Ding ding ding!

Jobe is possibly the most under-rated player in the comp, and would walk into any side.
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Hehe I thought our sarcasm was blatent.

I concur with the above statement.

I just hope the same people that have made a habit out of bagging Jobe do not go back to their old ways once we start to lose a few games and or if his form drops off a bit.

I remmber saying in early 2006 that he will be our next skipper and i reckon he is a a strong chance.
 
Andre 2000 said:
If anyone still has genuine concerns over Jobe's kicking then..

According to Champion Data...

"despite a perception he is a poor kick his efficiency of 77% was the AFL average for a midfielder in 2006."

Outside mids boost that average. So for an inside mid that's pretty decent. And most people would agree he's a better kick now.

Jobe was never a poor kick or even below average. Ever.
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Absolutely on the money here mate.

I have always, i repeat always maintained that Jobe Watson is not a bad kick of the football. Even back in his early days. The problem is that when he does a bad kick he can really do a bad kick and this is what people tend to remember. But more often than not he actualy does hit his target an is quite accompished. We should also factor in that a lot of the time he is under imense pressure when kicking due to the fact that he is getting a lot of hard ball and clearances.

I think we can also safely say that his rating of 77% from 2006 would be a fair bit higher these days. Does anyone have the %?

I asked our Carlton friends to provide his kicking efficiency % from 2008/09 when they started going on about what a terrible kick he is but they all went missing from the thread after this. :o
 
windyhill said:
There was never any problem with him finding it. Elite.
There was never any problem with his hands. Elite.
His kicking has come on so well and it is so obvious that he has worked on his only glaring weakness. He`s now elite in my eyes. (A few more goals would be good, his left foot snap on Sat.nigt was brilliant.) Long live the father son rule !
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Took a major step back today.
 
As I said on the main board, there's only two things that can be taken out of this game:

Injuries and the four points

We got ****ed over in both, and that's what makes it disappointing.

I don't think you can read much into performances, or form, from this.
 

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