Joel Bowden great

[Greggy]

Joel Bowden's been a great servant to the tigers and sacrificed his own career as a potential gun forward and wingman to fill the backline void. I don't think he gets the respect he rightly deserves for doing this. With his recent movement up the ground I'd love to see him show us what we've been missing out on.

He's a top bloke with a big heart for the tigers.

 

[Rancid_Beasties]

Joel Bowden's been a great servant to the tigers and sacrificed his own career as a potential gun forward and wingman to fill the backline void. I don't think he gets the respect he rightly deserves for doing this. With his recent movement up the ground I'd love to see him show us what we've been missing out on.

He's a top bloke with a big heart for the tigers.

No doubt he's been a great servant and he is a great guy off the field. And despite the fact that he is often maligned by supporters and opposition alike for getting soft possessions, he has in reality taken and beaten many gorilla forwards for years now. However to say he sacrificed his own career is rubbish. Its a team game and when you have a shocking backline like we did, you do what you have to do. Bowden has been alot better player as a fullback/loose man in defence than he probably would have been as a midfielder/forward...just look at his early career. Very in and out of games and despite moments of pure creativity he was always just short of consistant.

However down back he has utilised his footy brain to its maximum and his reading of play is just about the best in the afl. Here is a guy who rarely gets more than 4 goals kicked on him despite being sometimes 10-15kg lighter and 5-10cm shorter as well as usually slower than his opponent, and gets 25-30 possessions the other way. He directs our shoddy backline, creates alot of drive from defence and knows exactly when to leave his opponent to cover a hole.

 

[Greggy]

I never said he sacrificed his "career" as a hole, i said he sacrificed his career as a "potential" forward or wingman, which i know is where he wanted to play.

 

[tugga]

Sacrificed his career? You play where the coach wants you to play. Being a top bloke doesn't excuse the selfish way in which he has riddled our team with stuff up after stuff up.
Looks good to the nuffs who see his two or three sidesteps every game and the few targets that he does manage to hit. But has not contributed once ounce of leadership to the club.
He's certainly no great.

 

[lousampi]

Why wasn't Bowden made captain?

He would have been my first choice.

Who did the media go to for a comment, after the Johnson incident.

Bowden of course.

 

[Greggy]

Why wasn't Bowden made captain?



Because certain people (Miller/Wallace) think that because you've come from a successful team(johnson), that somehow success will magically follow you.

 

[Bad Tiger]

Yeah, I always thought Bowden was gonna be a gun on the
half forward flank. Would've been interesting to see him develop
more as a winger/half forward type in a more complete team.

I dunno if he's a great, but I think he deserves more respect
than I've seen from some posts on the forums. Maybe I'm a nuff
that's had the wool pulled over his eyes, but I think Bowden
has been a sure hand and a player unlikely to turn the ball over.
I don't really think matters if his possessions are "soft" or not,
I think thats par for the course in the linking/marshalling type
role he normally plays. It's probably a good thing he is getting
the ball out on his own at times, shows hes making space and
setting up play.

 

[_RT_]

I would feel a whole lot better about him if he was to start getting 12-18 quality possessions that resulted in 5-6 goals extra on the scoreboard, not directly from his boot but from score assists, which would in turn have a far greater impact on whether Richmond won games on the park instead of 25-30 cheap arse possessions around the backline, that result in me having wins in Dreamteam, but don't really help the team on the field.

 

[acr2751]

I would feel a whole lot better about him if he was to start getting 12-18 quality possessions that resulted in 5-6 goals extra on the scoreboard, not directly from his boot but from score assists, which would in turn have a far greater impact on whether Richmond won games on the park instead of 25-30 cheap arse possessions around the backline, that result in me having wins in Dreamteam, but don't really help the team on the field.

imo i dont regard him as a great more just a good handy player.

i think a measure would be how we would go with out him in the side and i doubt it would make a hell of a lot of difference.

still i like and respect joel.

 

[Greggy]

imo i dont regard him as a great more just a good handy player.

i think a measure would be how we would go with out him in the side and i doubt it would make a hell of a lot of difference.

still i like and respect joel.

In retrospect I think i probably misused the word great. I think he's just been a great person and player for the club........not one of the all time greats.

 

[kizzaob]

I'd definately put him as captain, over captain 'i piss on police stations'!!

 

[Ando_4]

Is more of a natural leader than Sugar will be in a gazillion lifetimes..

and to think we had to hire a company to make this decision.

Joel should have been made captain some time ago. too late now though.