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Well its all over now for Kobe, back to only worrying about basketball.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1872740

Wednesday, September 1, 2004

Associated Press

EAGLE, Colo. -- The Kobe Bryant case collapsed Wednesday as prosecutors said they had no choice but to drop the sexual assault charge against the NBA star because the woman accusing him could no longer participate.

With the parents of the 20-year-old accuser looking on, District Judge Terry Ruckriegle threw out the case under a deal that means no charges will be refiled.

"The people have filed a motion to dismiss this case based on the fact the sole victim at this time is unable to go forward," District Attorney Mark Hurlbert told the judge.

The woman's attorney, John Clune, said his client has been through an extremely difficult time over the past 14 months and was disturbed by a series of courthouse mistakes that included the release of her name and medical history. Speaking on her behalf, Clune told the judge, "It is in her sincere belief that when this case ends she does not want to be brought back into the criminal process."

"The difficulties that this case has imposed on this woman the past year are unimaginable," he said.

Ruckriegle admitted mistakes had been made and took full responsibility.

The prosecution dropped the case as jury selection was beginning to wrap up. Opening statements had been expected next Tuesday.

Bryant still faces a federal civil lawsuit filed by the accuser that seeks unspecified damages.

Hurlbert said outside the courtroom that he and his office wanted to try the case, but acceded to the wishes of the woman, who no longer wanted to testify.

Bryant, 26, has said he had consensual sex with a then-19-year-old employee of a Vail-area resort where he stayed last summer. If convicted, the Los Angeles Lakers star would have faced four years to life in prison or 20 years to life on probation, and a fine up to $750,000.


Kobe's court statement
"I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colo. ...
 
Geez, Obviously I dont know the true facts but its amazing what money and Fame can do..

Wouldnt be surprised if any threats were maybe carried out during the whole process, to make someone as scared as what she is, I know if i was a chick and I got r*ped, id wanna make him pay for violating me like that...

Just My Opinion
 
CrowMuncher said:
Geez, Obviously I dont know the true facts but its amazing what money and Fame can do..

Wouldnt be surprised if any threats were maybe carried out during the whole process, to make someone as scared as what she is, I know if i was a chick and I got r*ped, id wanna make him pay for violating me like that...

Just My Opinion

Civil proceedings are still in motion, so she will be financially compenstated for whatever took place in due course.

I doubt there were threats involved. It seemed that like many sex crimes, the eveidence against Bryant was probably "he said, she said".

Whatever happened, both parties have lost alot through this process.
 
Thats exactly right, the whole thing has been she said he said, its just what ur opinion is about the whole process, that happend it a friend of mine and it changed her whole life, so thats why i made the comment about making him or them pay, but anyways looking forward to seeing him in the gold and purple this year
 

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Mr X said:
Civil proceedings are still in motion, so she will be financially compenstated for whatever took place in due course.

I doubt there were threats involved. It seemed that like many sex crimes, the eveidence against Bryant was probably "he said, she said".

Whatever happened, both parties have lost alot through this process.


Exaclty right. Story fits perfectly into an essay i am writing at the moment concerning athletes and rape trials in the US. Acquaintance rape cases have traditionally lacked any physical, testimonial or other corroborative evidence so outcome is based on teh testimony of teh parties. In the case of high profiled athletes, teh complainants name is often dragged through the mud before trial even begins and evidence of prior sexual history, mental illness and family problems all churned through teh media. Trying to match this image with that of our "role model" athletes often gets the better of the alleged victim.

Whether he was guilty or not, teh treatment of Kobe's accuser was pretty shocking in this case.
 
Lol how come I never found this? :D


221 Detective Winters: Okay, all right um, did anything happen in the room?

223 Bryant: Like what?

225 Detective Loya: Uh, did you guys hug or kiss?

227 Detective Winters: Kiss or hug?

229 Bryant: No.

231 Detective Winters: Nothing like that happened?

233 Bryant: No.

235 Detective Winters: Okay. Um, I’ll be blunt and ask you. Did you have sexual intercourse with
236 her?

238 Bryant: No.

240 Detective Winters: Okay. Uh, what, okay, Kobe here’s what I’d like to do okay. Um,
241 yet there is an allegation that it was an unconsensual intercourse that occurred last night, okay.
242 All right, hang on, okay, hang on, I understand you have every right to be upset, okay, but, you
243 know, but, I’m giving you an opportunity to tell the truth if something did happen, because I’m
244 gonna tell you right now, um, we’re gonna find out.

340 Bryant: Uh, this is what I need to know because uh, I did have sexual intercourse with her
341 cause I was …(inaudible whisper).

345 Detective Loya: Okay, was it consensual?

347 Bryant: It was totally consensual.

349 Detective Loya: What makes you believe, what makes you believe it was consensual?

351 Bryant: Cause she started kissing me, (inaudible) then she bent over and (inaudible).

Second Convo

529 Detective Loya: Hey Kobe, have you ever had any of these allegations made against you before?

531 Bryant: No. You kidding me.

533 Detective Loya: No?

535 Bryant: Never, I like, I treat everybody with the utmost respect, absolutely nothing…

554 Detective Loya: Did you ever ask her if you wanted, if you could cum in her face?

556 Bryant: Yes. That’s when she said no. That’s when she said no. That’s when she said no.

562 Bryant: Um, you know, that’s when I asked if I could cum in her face, she said no.

564 Detective Loya: So you like to cum in your partners face?

566 Bryant: That’s my thing, not always, I mean, so I stopped. Jesus Christ man. (Inaudible).

Third Convo

1005 Detective Winters: And I understand, and just let me finish okay. So one you lied to us, okay,
1006 that doesn’t help. Two, um, then, then we confront this issued and you seemed a little bit
1007 skeptical in the details of exactly what happened throughout the entire incident okay. I’m not
1008 saying you’re a person that would do something like this okay. I agree with you, I agree that you
1009 got caught up in the moment. Okay. No doubt about it, you know, no doubt about it whatsoever.
1010 What I think you got caught up in also Mr. Bryant, is that, and I agree, I, I completely agree with
1011 you, it was consensual up to the point of the hugging and kissing issue I agree, completely
1012 consensual. I have no issues with that whatsoever. What I, what I’m being, what I’m skeptical
1013 on is that I don’t know how consensual the sexual intercourse was. Okay. I don’t, I don’t, I
1014 guess to be honest with you I’m not sure, I’m not sure, if we’re getting all the facts presented to
1015 us as far as what exactly happened. See this is the way I [look] at it, I, you know, I look at it this way,
1016 she’s an attractive young lady okay.

1018 Bryant: She wasn’t that attractive.

1024 Bryant: I didn’t finish a ____ing thing.

1030 Detective Winters: And I know it stopped at a certain point okay, um…

1032 Detective Loya: By, by no means do we think that you’re…

1034 Bryant: Matter of fact.

1036 Detective Winters: Go ahead.

1038 Bryant: (Inaudible). I jerked off when she left. (Inaudible).

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0924041kobea1.html

Absolute gold.
 

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Shit, hadn't seen that transcript - nice PR ;thumbsu:

Reading back on some of the earlier posts at the time of the incident just reminds me how dumb some people really are, but lets not get into arguments from 4 years ago :D
 
Why was the case dropped?

Was it because the girl couldn't be bothered or because Kobe payed her off or what?

By reading all of the transcript i have no doubt he was guilty and that he is so stupid.
 
Why was the case dropped?

Was it because the girl couldn't be bothered or because Kobe payed her off or what?

By reading all of the transcript i have no doubt he was guilty and that he is so stupid.

by reading all of that transcript its pretty clear to see he wasn't guilty.

also the fact that the woman had done the same thing before, which was to accuse a man of rape only to be found to be lying.
 
by reading all of that transcript its pretty clear to see he wasn't guilty.

also the fact that the woman had done the same thing before, which was to accuse a man of rape only to be found to be lying.
not true, please post your source mate.

her statements were not completely truthful.

Neither were Bryants.

The statistics about unreported rape in instructive. There is not the same statistics of false accusations. It is very difficult to get a charge on someone of that profile.

He may not have r*ped her, but you cannot be sure. Without a trial, you cannot assess the entire evidence.
 

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