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dockshark said:
No....they're fighting for the best outcomes for themselves, which is expected. I haven't seen any reference to the AFL clubs proving without doubt that entering reserves sides in the WAFL will give them a material advantage......
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The fact that two of the best teams (Geelong and Collingwood) for a while now have their own reserves teams is a pretty good start. Also that fact that all 18 coaches have called for them and that other Victorian teams are already aligned with VFL clubs.

Lach72 said:
I just love that we get to pay 1 million bucks a year or more to help "WA" footy that Collingwood, Essendon don't have to pay and then they get equal access to the players we've helped pay for.

That's just ace. Lucky 'WA' footy is in such good hands
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It almost makes me cry that GC and GWS who are full of great WA talent already have their own reserves teams. We miss out on so much good WA talent and yet we are still held to ransom by our own Footy league.
 
yakka man said:
It almost makes me cry that GC and GWS who are full of great WA talent already have their own reserves teams. We miss out on so much good WA talent and yet we are still held to ransom by our own Footy league.
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Is that what you really think is happening...that Freo is being held to ransom by the WAFL? Seriously?
 
Lach72 said:
Yeah it's not about funding it's about power and control and it's to the detriment of FFC
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It's more about the vibe of the game.
 
dockshark said:
Is that what you really think is happening...that Freo is being held to ransom by the WAFL? Seriously?
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It's a result of having the licences owned by the WAFC.

We should not have to pay the WAFC money for developing players or growing the game in the state unless each AFL club pays the same amount. We get no benefit in players drafted, we get no benefit in player development.

None. Not a cent. FFC gets no benefit at all from it other than keeping their players match fit, and even then the WAFL benefits more by having greater depth of talent available.
Essendon have, what 14 WA players on their list...towards which they have contributed **** all.
It's a crock
 
Lach72 said:
It's a result of having the licences owned by the WAFC.

We should not have to pay the WAFC money for developing players or growing the game in the state unless each AFL club pays the same amount. We get no benefit in players drafted, we get no benefit in player development.

None. Not a cent. FFC gets no benefit at all from it other than keeping their players match fit, and even then the WAFL benefits more by having greater depth of talent available.
Essendon have, what 14 WA players on their list...towards which they have contributed **** all.
It's a crock
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Sure...but your beef remains with the WAFC, not the WAFL, I fail to see how the WAFL is holding anyone to ransom as implied above.
 
Lach72 said:
The WAFL gets some of that money?
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Well, I'm not actually highly familiar with the finiacial arangements of the WAFC, but presumably yes. The WAFL clubs also get stuffed around by the AFL clubs, specifically with regards to stability of player availability, and structure and positiong etc. The current arangement is hardly a bed of roses for the WAFL clubs either. Fremantle have not been compliant with the agreement several times this year, particularly with regards to timings informing WAFL clubs of players availbility.
 

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Lach72 said:
I think they would...If WAFC surrender the licences
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Be careful what you wish for. Remember the AFL wanted to impose a levy on WA supporters to help subsidise tickets for Victorian fans.

These are not the actions of an organisation I would trust to have our best interests at heart should they become our owners. I'm not happy with us paying for Essendon's draftees either, but in this case I'm leaning towards better the devil you know.
 
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/14358570/more-talks-in-bid-for-reserves-teams/

The WA Football Commission has brought in a professional facilitator in a bid to broker a compromise between West Coast, Fremantle and WAFL clubs over the deadlocked AFL reserves team issue. Consultants Robert Radley and Stuart Love from management consultancy Bain and Company will chair a summit of WA football stakeholders next Monday in what WAFC chief executive Gary Walton yesterday termed a "line-in-the-sand" bid to progress debate on the issue. The AFL and WAFL clubs remain deadlocked on their positions in the debate. The Eagles and Dockers are adamant they will proceed until they get reserves teams in some form.
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It's not going away.

WAFL council of presidents spokesman Haydn Raitt yesterday repeated a threatened a shutout of AFL players if an interim proposal for Eagles and Dockers reserves teams to play each other in a series of games at the start of 2013 went ahead, or if clubs chose an AFL alignment. "The thinking is still as it was from that (June) council of presidents meeting," Raitt said. "If they take their players for six weeks they can have them for the year. And if any club wants to align, the other clubs may refuse to play."
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And has the potential to get nasty.
 
yakka man said:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/14358570/more-talks-in-bid-for-reserves-teams/


WAFL council of presidents spokesman Haydn Raitt yesterday repeated a threatened a shutout of AFL players if an interim proposal for Eagles and Dockers reserves teams to play each other in a series of games at the start of 2013 went ahead, or if clubs chose an AFL alignment. "The thinking is still as it was from that (June) council of presidents meeting," Raitt said. "If they take their players for six weeks they can have them for the year. And if any club wants to align, the other clubs may refuse to play."
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That's a bluff if I've ever heard it, it might sound tough at first, but it would mean the demise of the WAFL entirely - it's would be a worse thing than simply letting the Eagles/Dockers have their reserve side.

We'll end up just going around in circles here, but in the longer term, the WAFC needs to work out a way in which the WA AFL teams have their reserve side one way or another. In time all teams in the AFL will have them - slowly all the Melbourne clubs are heading that way, the expansion teams have them, SA and WA will eventually get them. It's in the WAFLs interest to work towards it over the next few years while they have some control in how it all could work.
 

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