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John Lennon gets his sweet revenge from the grave
By Matt Born November 21 2005

John Lennon's “definitive” account of the break-up of the Beatles is to be heard for the first time in Britain.

In it, he accuses Sir Paul McCartney of being all “form and no substance” and treating the rest of the group as little more than his backing band.

He also says the other Beatles “despised” Yoko Ono and forced him to choose between them or her.

The interview, which exposes the raw bitterness Lennon felt towards the other Beatles, and McCartney in particular, was recorded in 1970 by the editor of Rolling Stone magazine, Jann Wenner.

It is being broadcast next month by Radio4 as part of a season of programmes to mark the 25th anniversary of Lennon's murder.

The remarkably candid interview is regarded as a key document of Beatles history, charting everything from their early days in Hamburg to the eventual, acrimonious split. Lennon himself described it as “definitive”.

In it, he talks bitterly about his tumultuous relationship with McCartney. “One of the main reasons the Beatles ended is because we got fed up with being sidemen for Paul,” he says


“After Brian [Epstein] died we collapsed. Paul took over and supposedly led us. But what is leading us when we went round in circles? Paul had the impression that we should be thankful for what he did, for keeping the Beatles going. But he kept it going for his own sake. Not for my sake did Paul struggle.”

Discussing his bandmates' hostility towards Yoko, Lennon says: “It seemed that I either had to be married to them or Yoko. I chose Yoko – and I was right. They despised her. They insulted her and still do – they can go stuff themselves.”

Despite almost 35 years having passed since the Beatles split, the enduring bitterness of the feud was evident recently when Yoko denounced McCartney as an inferior song-writer to Lennon.

At an awards ceremony last month, she mocked his lyrics, suggesting he did no more than rhyme “spoon” with “June”.

Lennon was 40 years old when he was assassinated outside his New York apartment block on December 8 1980. His killer, Mark Chapman, is currently serving a life sentence for the crime after repeatedly being turned down for parole.
 
I'm not defending McCartney but you cannot entirely blame him. John had told the Beatles he wanted out as early as 1969 but Paul was the first to announce it then the press got onto it vilifying him as the bad man.

The four men were growing apart and their musical differences were diverging. John was giving Yoko attention and she was even trying to put her stamp onto sessions.

There was a conflict of interest when Paul wanted his father in law to run things whilst the other 3 wanted Klein.

A few years later John said "so Pauls suspicion's of Klein prooved to be correct"

Klein was dropped by the other 3 after they found out about his nature and Klein sued the hell out of all of them after defending them on one hand, especially My Sweet Lord where Klein took 20% of the success then went through the back door and brought Hes so fine and then proceeded to sue George, 18 years later, George owns both songs.

All their doing were going into the apple kitty and they were not financially rewarded for their efforts, thats why Paul called for a dissolution and the others thanked him afterwards

All their solo proceeds of sales no longer went into one kitty that was frozen in recievership, etc.....

John and Paul were at odds with how to best handle the situation and two people argue, its like that in real life.

the media led you to beleive that they were enemies till death, however they were friends and loved eachother a great deal

Its silly to blame anyone, the beatles were meant to break up, it was inevitable.

Paul is being shat on too often, and what I am saying is that regarding the situation, it has prooven in time that some of the callous sounding stuff Paul did was beneficial for the individuals.
 
materamagic said:
I'm not defending McCartney but you cannot entirely blame him. John had told the Beatles he wanted out as early as 1969 but Paul was the first to announce it then the press got onto it vilifying him as the bad man.

Didn't John's anger mainly derive form the fact that when he said he wanted out of the band he was convinced (mainly by Paul himself, along with Klein) to keep it quiet until a few negotiations were finalised? Then, shortly after Paul announced HIS departure from the band with a soon to be released solo album under his arm.
He even went so far as to create a little questonairre on the album sleeve.
One question read:
Q.Will the Beatles ever get back together? Answer: No.
 
Not surprising, Paul is incredibly egotistical. Well that'd what I've read, of course I've got no idea because I dont know the guy. I'd sooner believe John's account of things. for example the word was that Paul demanded to headline Live 8, even over and above the Floyd reunion.
 

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Bob asked McCartney and Bono to open then Macca to finish. There are alot of rumours floating around about this, Geldof himself nailed these on the head. I know some people cant accept and celebrate Paul the live performer with the best back catalogue.

Pink Floyd were amazing and was my highlight despite how well documented a huge Macca fan I am. But people assume that Macca with his "jubilant" stage persona came on the finish to take over, well far from it.

Paul can't win and its the only problem he has as a musician.

If someone is overrated and underrated at the same time its Paul.

About John, I loved the guy and his music, the lennon legend but heres something his own son Julian said....

"He sung about love and peace in his songs but he would never show these things to his wife and kid"

Both Lennon and McCartney did things they wish they could change had they had their time again, then again, couldn't we all?

Paul loved the Beatles and if you listen to the "fly on the wall" you could see he sort of took over, as he was full of ideas, his ideas, and was a little selfish in doing so, maybe it was a reason to go to the papers. also all the ideas from revolver onwards, were Pauls. at one stage the other 3 came up to him when the recording session was a shamble and said "paul produce us" he wanted to get things done, to get the beatles back doing shows, etc but they were all growing apart.

The good thing resulting from the break up was each individual could pursue what they wanted to and this resulted in some classic stuff


John: Plastic Ono Band (classic)
Imagine (classic)

George: All things must pass (classic)
Concert for Bangladesh (classic)

Ringo: Ringo

Paul: Band On The Run (classic)
RAM (classic)

Paul and John even had a recording session in 1974, i have some of those recordings which are Paul and John drunk with Stevie Wonder.
 
materamagic said:
Paul and John even had a recording session in 1974, i have some of those recordings which are Paul and John drunk with Stevie Wonder.

How did you get them??? :eek:
 
No massive suprises here. As much respect and admiration as ive always had for John, it's no secret that he was about as paranoid and self consious as they come. I don't believe John and Paul ever hated each other, it was more the jelousy that fueled these fires.
 
Great read,.

Why haven't Ringo and George said the same thing ?

Its obvious Lennon had his own star and deservedly so.

Perhaps the remaining guys,seeing as they weren't as prolific as John and Paul in the writing department,were just happy to play with Paul because of his strong musicianship and direction.

Does John sound bitter towards Paul or is it both Paul and the others for supoorting him ?

I think Lennon was more the egomaniac of the two.
Staging a sleep in, open to media in the name of peace would need a huge ego to think that so many would be affected.
 
an interview with RS from 70 aint a comment from beyond the grave. Funny how they try and sell old Beatle revelations, and hardly a revelation.

The inteview was Johns thoughts in 1970 but to say hes saying it beyond the grave is poor and shallow journalism, Im sure everyone would agree.

Toasta and Oxx, you are both spot on in your comments
 
CarterS said:
Not surprising, Paul is incredibly egotistical. Well that'd what I've read, of course I've got no idea because I dont know the guy. I'd sooner believe John's account of things. for example the word was that Paul demanded to headline Live 8, even over and above the Floyd reunion.
McCartney is egotistical.But then McCartney had all the talent so he could probably afford to be...
 
Jarryd_S said:
John Lennon gets his sweet revenge from the grave
By Matt Born November 21 2005

John Lennon's “definitive” account of the break-up of the Beatles is to be heard for the first time in Britain.

In it, he accuses Sir Paul McCartney of being all “form and no substance” and treating the rest of the group as little more than his backing band.

He also says the other Beatles “despised” Yoko Ono and forced him to choose between them or her.

The interview, which exposes the raw bitterness Lennon felt towards the other Beatles, and McCartney in particular, was recorded in 1970 by the editor of Rolling Stone magazine, Jann Wenner.

It is being broadcast next month by Radio4 as part of a season of programmes to mark the 25th anniversary of Lennon's murder.

The remarkably candid interview is regarded as a key document of Beatles history, charting everything from their early days in Hamburg to the eventual, acrimonious split. Lennon himself described it as “definitive”.

In it, he talks bitterly about his tumultuous relationship with McCartney. “One of the main reasons the Beatles ended is because we got fed up with being sidemen for Paul,” he says


“After Brian [Epstein] died we collapsed. Paul took over and supposedly led us. But what is leading us when we went round in circles? Paul had the impression that we should be thankful for what he did, for keeping the Beatles going. But he kept it going for his own sake. Not for my sake did Paul struggle.”

Discussing his bandmates' hostility towards Yoko, Lennon says: “It seemed that I either had to be married to them or Yoko. I chose Yoko – and I was right. They despised her. They insulted her and still do – they can go stuff themselves.”

Despite almost 35 years having passed since the Beatles split, the enduring bitterness of the feud was evident recently when Yoko denounced McCartney as an inferior song-writer to Lennon.

At an awards ceremony last month, she mocked his lyrics, suggesting he did no more than rhyme “spoon” with “June”.

Lennon was 40 years old when he was assassinated outside his New York apartment block on December 8 1980. His killer, Mark Chapman, is currently serving a life sentence for the crime after repeatedly being turned down for parole.
I can wear Lennon slagging McCartney but not the other b1tch...What has she ever done besides live off Lennons' coat tails and after he died live off his name?

She is basically a famous nobody...I wonder if it also bothers her that she still receives royalty cheque's for the long and winding road which McCartney wrote,and Lennon had no part in...Get off it parasite...
 
McCartney was always a better songwriter than Lennon.

Bitch all they want at each other, Lennon has always sounded like a nasty, bitter tosser in interviews and songs like 'How Do you Sleep?' and his wife fits that bill.

McCartney wrote the best Beatles songs, and that's all there is to it.
 
What a crock of a beat up this is.

This is old news dressed up as new.

All this was revealed in the Jann Wenner Rolling Stone interviews conducted in 1971 and released in the book Lennon Remembers.

It was around the time Imagine the album came out and the comments were made at a time when they were their most distant.

Everyone knows it was that whore Ono that split them up. How could you make music when this trollop turns up in her bed to the studio all day?

FMG
 

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