Luke Shackleton...

[JeNnO_powerfreak_21]

Just a quick question, why was this kid delisted? Just not up to it, or was there and off-field reason?

Cheers guys.

 

[Lensen]

Cause he's a fat slob without any AFL ability.

 

[JeNnO_powerfreak_21]

Iv'e seen him play before I didn't think he was too bad.

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

Fat slow hack.

What we saw in him I'll never know.

 

[grinspoon]

Neil Balme "delivered" him to us.

 

[EB&W Pieman]

What we saw in him I'll never know.

Won the TAC Cup B&F, it was a VERY thin draft. Took a punt on him - pick 29 from memory - getting an athlete's body.

It looks as if he just didn't have the will to succeed; it can't be all that difficult to lose weight as an 18 year old.

 

[Nardz]

Won the TAC Cup B&F, it was a VERY thin draft. Took a punt on him - pick 29 from memory - getting an athlete's body.

It looks as if he just didn't have the will to succeed; it can't be all that difficult to lose weight as an 18 year old.

a very thin draft, even with him in there to boost up the averages abit?

Getting an athletes body? unless he started packing on the weight after he was drafted, if he has an athletes body i'm a fukn iron man.

 

[Murray]

Cause he's a fat slob without any AFL ability.

 

[MarkT]

Basically just another dud MM policy decision. Wide bodied midfielders won WCE 2 flags but they were actually good footballers taken from secret WA reserves by MM and his predecessors. Different world wrong policy. The sooner MM f’s off the better. If he takes Judkins with him I’ll be happy. If Balme goes too them so much the better. Get rid of all the monkeys randomly hitting keys trying to write War and Piece in our joke of a football department and we might get somewhere. Pretty soon it will be 1 flag in 50 years and none in 20. If that isn’t failure then it’s Collingwood. You tell me the difference.

Unless we draft properly we have no chance of ever winning a premiership let alone having a sustained successful run. Even that won’t do it though. Luke was an example of the wrong choice to start with but he wasn’t developed and didn’t get fitter. He gets delisted but the monkeys that chose and failed to improve him stay.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Getting an athletes body? unless he started packing on the weight after he was drafted, if he has an athletes body i'm a fukn iron man.

Read it again...

He said we were taking a punt on him getting an athletes body, a punt that didn't pay off.

Proper grammar dictates that anything in between dashes can be removed from the sentence without the sentence losing meaning.

Therefore, if you removed " - pick 29 from memory - " from the sentence, you'd be left with:

"Took a punt on him getting an athlete's body"

Does it make sense now?

 

[JeNnO_powerfreak_21]

Thanks for that guys, and thanks to the moderators for not deleting it.

 

[Johnson#26]

Just another McGough. Was a footballer first, athlete second, which is probably the thing which hurt him the most (aside from his distinct lack of pace). Not really great on the fitness side of things, either. Was actually ok in his one and only game (round 18 2004 vs Richmond @ The MCG) - spent 26 minutes on the field - some may say he was robbed, he won a few touches/tackled well.

Playing for Tassie in the VFL.

The 2002 Draft was a shocker for us: Nixon, Shackleton, C.Cloke, King, Lokan. Hurts us badly in ther present day, when they were expected to kick on.

 

[MarkT]

It's worse than that, we lost Davis (for the Nixon pick) and gave up our first pick for Woewodin who played 3 years of slow, soft football before being delisted. This is really a big part of where we are now. Poor drafting and poor trading has led to a very thin list with most of the better players near the end of their careers.

 

[FIGJAM]

Thanks for that guys, and thanks to the moderators for not deleting it.

Errr...you're welcome!?!!

 

[Nardz]

Just another McGough. Was a footballer first, athlete second, which is probably the thing which hurt him the most (aside from his distinct lack of pace). Not really great on the fitness side of things, either. Was actually ok in his one and only game (round 18 2004 vs Richmond @ The MCG) - spent 26 minutes on the field - some may say he was robbed, he won a few touches/tackled well.

Playing for Tassie in the VFL.

The 2002 Draft was a shocker for us: Nixon, Shackleton, C.Cloke, King, Lokan. Hurts us badly in ther present day, when they were expected to kick on.

funny how C.Cloke is the only player to survive 4 years from the class of 2002, and even he is an often maligned player.

We basically might as well have not turne up to draft day.

 

[Us3]

Basically just another dud MM policy decision. Wide bodied midfielders won WCE 2 flags but they were actually good footballers taken from secret WA reserves by MM and his predecessors. Different world wrong policy. The sooner MM f’s off the better. If he takes Judkins with him I’ll be happy. If Balme goes too them so much the better. Get rid of all the monkeys randomly hitting keys trying to write War and Piece in our joke of a football department and we might get somewhere. Pretty soon it will be 1 flag in 50 years and none in 20. If that isn’t failure then it’s Collingwood. You tell me the difference.

Unless we draft properly we have no chance of ever winning a premiership let alone having a sustained successful run. Even that won’t do it though. Luke was an example of the wrong choice to start with but he wasn’t developed and didn’t get fitter. He gets delisted but the monkeys that chose and failed to improve him stay.

i thought judkins was gone as head of recruitment?

 

[MarkT]

I understand Hine is the chief. WTF is Judkins still drawing a cheque for though? If you want performance you don’t keep failures and just add another head. Not unless you are the public service that is. Therein lies the problem. Have you seen the new leather elbow patch jumpers and the dessert boots in the Lexus Centre shop? There are groooovy.

 

[spoljar]

The 2002 Draft was a shocker for us: Nixon, Shackleton, C.Cloke, King, Lokan. Hurts us badly in ther present day, when they were expected to kick on.

And here lies the essence of our problems at the moment. Poor drafting has completely destroyed any depth that we had and unfortunatley injuries have clouded the real problem down at Collingwood.
If you look at it, our 2001 and 2003 Drafting was not much better! How in Gods name Dudkins has remained at the club is beyond me because he is the most overated recruiter in the History of the comp! He simply recruited players that would have been ideal in the 1960's!

 

[OZBomb]

If you knew Shackleton's family genetics, you'd understand a little more.

Brilliant player, who was never given a chance. 23 minutes for 5 possessions and 3 tackles isn't really a fair shot at AFL football over 3 seasons.

 

[Lensen]

If you knew Shackleton's family genetics, you'd understand a little more.

Brilliant player, who was never given a chance. 23 minutes for 5 possessions and 3 tackles isn't really a fair shot at AFL football over 3 seasons.

What? Is his great grandfather the Colonel?

Still being a fat slob at the end of his time at the club indicates he didn't really have a crack at AFL football over three seasons.

 

[Johnson#26]

He simply recruited players that would have been ideal in the 1960's!

Can't argue there. Put simply, we were would be guns in that era.

 

[magpies42]

We probably werent the only club to walk away from that draft with next to nothing!

 

[Murray]

If you knew Shackleton's family genetics, you'd understand a little more.

Brilliant player, who was never given a chance. 23 minutes for 5 possessions and 3 tackles isn't really a fair shot at AFL football over 3 seasons.

Brilliant player?????

Not while he was at Collingwood he wasn't