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Did anyone else notice how desperate Malthouse has become?
Worse than normal with his positive spin.............. who is he kidding?
  • O'Bree - "Malthouse revealed the onballer trained on Friday and was still a chance to take the field on Saturday night despite not being named as an emergency"
  • Dawes & McCarthy - "They're two exciting young players who have perhaps surprised us all with their development over the last few weeks," Malthouse said from the Lexus Centre on Friday.

    "I think it would be fair to say that Chris Dawes as a young man, before he did his knee, was highly thought of as a key position player. As a consequence of doing the knee we were able to pick him up pretty cheaply, we thought, for a key position player.

    "He's a highly intelligent young man who I think will be, down the track, a fairly good partner in playing in the forward line with Travis Cloke, Ben Reid and Sean Rusling.
    "John McCarthy is a kid who is very dedicated to being a good footballer.
  • Imminent elevation of rookie Brent Macaffer
  • Malthouse also allayed any fears that veteran Shane Wakelin, who was rested last week, had been pressed back into service prematurely by the club's injury and suspension issues.
    "He's ready to go, he's like a first-round pick ready to play his first game," he said.
  • Anthiny Rocca & Ben Reid are also way ahead of schedule

    Oops, thought I just saw a pink elephant fly past my window!!!!!!!!!
 
theres rumours that he woulda gone higher, but from what ive gathered , and this only from bf forums lol so i dunno if it means much. is that he was probably destine to go around the 20s anyway, and we got him at 28.

for his size weight, i guess you could say he is a bargain because he was afl ready in terms of that, but just came with a knee reco that he was recovering from before the draft.

with his form in the vfl the past two weeks and the fact its his first real season , theres reasons for mm to be excited. i dont see where mm is making up anything in what he said ?
 
There is the more conservative point of view which suggests he would have gone 3rd or 4th round and you were silly and took him too early. :eek:

Who cares?

A player isn't any better (or worse) because of the pick he was or should have been.

Whilst clubs are getting very good at this drafting business, and they generally get the first round picks right, there is no guarantee - it is a gamble. The second round draft picks have a fair chance of being successful, but after that there is little difference between draft picks and rookie picks.

The concern should not be at what pick you get a player, it should simply be that you get the players you want with the picks you have.
 
Mick Malthouse is in panic mode. He has half a team and a bunch of kids who may be great, but as is the case with immature players, they will be inconsistent and no-one can predict when they will perform and when they will fail. All he can do is pump them up as high as possible and unleash them on us. He doesn't like the uncertainty so he is pumping their tyres in the public domain - unnecessarily putting pressure on these kids when they have enough to deal with already. I think its unconscionable and it demonstrates Mick's desperation. Generally good coaches protect their young charges, Mick is throwing these kids to the wolves.
 

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Mick Malthouse is in panic mode. He has half a team and a bunch of kids who may be great, but as is the case with immature players, they will be inconsistent and no-one can predict when they will perform and when they will fail. All he can do is pump them up as high as possible and unleash them on us. He doesn't like the uncertainty so he is pumping their tyres in the public domain - unnecessarily putting pressure on these kids when they have enough to deal with already. I think its unconscionable and it demonstrates Mick's desperation. Generally good coaches protect their young charges, Mick is throwing these kids to the wolves.

Throwing them to the Milne
 
Still not really getting the point of your thread. Dawes WAS picked up cheaply, as he came with a knee injury (MM isn't saying he was going to be a top 10 pick). He called him intelligent, geez... stop that crap Mick.

And the last bolded part, just another way of saying he's raring to go. I wouldn't think that is desperation (do you know what it means?). Seems like any other article to me.
 
what a stupid thread. you obvisously know nothing about these kids and how they're progessing but you still have your opinon because we are collingwood. if ross lyon said this about a few of your younger players you would have kept your opinon to yourself.
 
Did anyone else notice how desperate Malthouse has become?
Worse than normal with his positive spin.............. who is he kidding?
  • O'Bree - "Malthouse revealed the onballer trained on Friday and was still a chance to take the field on Saturday night despite not being named as an emergency"
  • Dawes & McCarthy - "They're two exciting young players who have perhaps surprised us all with their development over the last few weeks," Malthouse said from the Lexus Centre on Friday.

    "I think it would be fair to say that Chris Dawes as a young man, before he did his knee, was highly thought of as a key position player. As a consequence of doing the knee we were able to pick him up pretty cheaply, we thought, for a key position player.

    "He's a highly intelligent young man who I think will be, down the track, a fairly good partner in playing in the forward line with Travis Cloke, Ben Reid and Sean Rusling.
    "John McCarthy is a kid who is very dedicated to being a good footballer.
  • Imminent elevation of rookie Brent Macaffer
  • Malthouse also allayed any fears that veteran Shane Wakelin, who was rested last week, had been pressed back into service prematurely by the club's injury and suspension issues.
    "He's ready to go, he's like a first-round pick ready to play his first game," he said.
  • Anthiny Rocca & Ben Reid are also way ahead of schedule

    Oops, thought I just saw a pink elephant fly past my window!!!!!!!!!
If you have heard Dawes speak in interviews you would certainly not have any doubt about his intelligence.
Given his performance dropped off in the second half, almost unheard of with a first gamer, he had a pretty solid debut in what was for Collingwood a "must win" game after a horror week. How did you rate your side given they would have been getting a very similar message all week from the club?

One thing I find amazing is that any teams supporters would find it in anyway unusual for a coach of any side to talk them up a bit, look tot he positives.
What were you expecting?
"We have had a very bad week. So we are out of the running and our boys will just be doing some drills."
Mate St Kilda and St Kilda coach's have made an art form of talking up players and the club in general for the better part of a century. It's a part of their job. I accept it and so should you.
 
This thread is a good candidate for a "Winty" nomination.....lol


How wrong can you be?
 

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1. O'Bree - "Malthouse revealed the onballer trained on Friday and was still a chance to take the field on Saturday night despite not being named as an emergency"

2. Dawes "exciting young players who have perhaps surprised us all with their development over the last few weeks,"


3. "John McCarthy is a kid who is very dedicated to being a good footballer.
4. Anthiny Rocca & Ben Reid are also way ahead of schedule

1. Bollox
2. So you thought they were no good before that?
3. Geez, fill a young bloke with confidence "Don't worry son, work really hard and dedicate yourself and I might get you to wipe the dog poo off my shoes one day"
4. What schedule is that? The pull a quote out of your clacker schedule?

Reminds me of a quote :
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein".
Mick Malthouse (Collingwood)

 
It's still spewing out his pie-hole:

FOR a bloke who loves to boast he never reads the papers, Michael Malthouse is remarkably aware of what's in the papers.
Yesterday, he took up a familiar position - off the long run - and savaged the print medium.
Publicly, nastily, offensively.
Malthouse described the recent coverage of the Heath Shaw-Alan Didak escapade as "a mad frenzy".
He compared the press with "a shark with a bit of blood in its nostrils".
"I think it's disgusting and I don't think it's proportionate."
What's disgusting? The fact the press, the media collectively, reported that a prominent league footballer (Shaw) had been caught driving under the influence of alcohol (0.14).
The fact that Shaw and Didak, and Shaw's injured brother Rhyce, had decided to indulge themselves with a couple of days on the gas mid-season?
The fact that H. Shaw and Didak blatantly lied to the club, severely embarrassing Eddie McGuire and Scott Burns?
Pardon me, but I thought Collingwood accepted a certain seriousness (and related news value) by suspending H. Shaw and Didak for the rest of the season, and R. Shaw for a couple of weeks.
As dim as we might be in this business, surely the "mad frenzy" was sparked by the mad behaviour of three of Malthouse's players.
As for the "disproportionate" claim in terms of coverage, perhaps Mick should run that one past Brendan Fevola, Kane Johnson and Shannon Grant.
Not sure that Fev and Johnson needed to look too hard to find their names in the paper when they transgressed earlier in the year.
Or that Grant thought he got away with his misdemeanours at a club function.
While urinating in a public place has become frowned upon in recent years, I'm bold enough to suggest the courts take a different view to someone pissing in a public place than being pissed at the wheel.
Just a hunch.
Malthouse was quoted in The Australian a week ago as saying: "I've seen players squirted with capsicum spray on Page 35. . ."
This, from a bloke who is forever telling reporters to get it right.
The incident he was referring to involved North Melbourne's Aaron Edwards and occurred between seasons.
The story appeared in this paper under the heading "Cops spray Roo trio" - across the top of Page 5.
Yes, Collingwood stories do get a big run in the media, and for good reason.
As Ed likes to remind us, it's the world's greatest sporting club, and has hundreds of thousands of passionate supporters (and newspaper readers).
If it's about Collingwood, good or bad, it's in the media.
In fact, there are nine other Victorian clubs that occasionally refer to us as "The Black and White News". In envy.
The Malthouse outburst yesterday defies logic. The Shaw-Didak episode had all but disappeared by then.
Sadly, the veteran coach appears to have an insatiable appetite for conflict, in keeping with his contempt for the press.
It is a contempt so often evident, surely, if he has the courage of his convictions, he will resign forthwith as a columnist for The Australian.

Mike Sheahan is spot on with this one. Mick must be bi, as he seems to like it both ways.
 
It's still spewing out his pie-hole:

FOR a bloke who loves to boast he never reads the papers, Michael Malthouse is remarkably aware of what's in the papers.
Yesterday, he took up a familiar position - off the long run - and savaged the print medium.
Publicly, nastily, offensively.
Malthouse described the recent coverage of the Heath Shaw-Alan Didak escapade as "a mad frenzy".
He compared the press with "a shark with a bit of blood in its nostrils".
"I think it's disgusting and I don't think it's proportionate."
What's disgusting? The fact the press, the media collectively, reported that a prominent league footballer (Shaw) had been caught driving under the influence of alcohol (0.14).
The fact that Shaw and Didak, and Shaw's injured brother Rhyce, had decided to indulge themselves with a couple of days on the gas mid-season?
The fact that H. Shaw and Didak blatantly lied to the club, severely embarrassing Eddie McGuire and Scott Burns?
Pardon me, but I thought Collingwood accepted a certain seriousness (and related news value) by suspending H. Shaw and Didak for the rest of the season, and R. Shaw for a couple of weeks.
As dim as we might be in this business, surely the "mad frenzy" was sparked by the mad behaviour of three of Malthouse's players.
As for the "disproportionate" claim in terms of coverage, perhaps Mick should run that one past Brendan Fevola, Kane Johnson and Shannon Grant.
Not sure that Fev and Johnson needed to look too hard to find their names in the paper when they transgressed earlier in the year.
Or that Grant thought he got away with his misdemeanours at a club function.
While urinating in a public place has become frowned upon in recent years, I'm bold enough to suggest the courts take a different view to someone pissing in a public place than being pissed at the wheel.
Just a hunch.
Malthouse was quoted in The Australian a week ago as saying: "I've seen players squirted with capsicum spray on Page 35. . ."
This, from a bloke who is forever telling reporters to get it right.
The incident he was referring to involved North Melbourne's Aaron Edwards and occurred between seasons.
The story appeared in this paper under the heading "Cops spray Roo trio" - across the top of Page 5.
Yes, Collingwood stories do get a big run in the media, and for good reason.
As Ed likes to remind us, it's the world's greatest sporting club, and has hundreds of thousands of passionate supporters (and newspaper readers).
If it's about Collingwood, good or bad, it's in the media.
In fact, there are nine other Victorian clubs that occasionally refer to us as "The Black and White News". In envy.
The Malthouse outburst yesterday defies logic. The Shaw-Didak episode had all but disappeared by then.
Sadly, the veteran coach appears to have an insatiable appetite for conflict, in keeping with his contempt for the press.
It is a contempt so often evident, surely, if he has the courage of his convictions, he will resign forthwith as a columnist for The Australian.

Mike Sheahan is spot on with this one. Mick must be bi, as he seems to like it both ways.

Yep, want all the media to turn up for a "sausage sizzle" but complain when they get mass coverage for something that is newsworthy and of their own (or players) making.
The other thing I found bemusing was that BOTH Geoff Walsh and Eddy appeared on the Footy Show last week..........talk about overkill!!
 

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