Match ups V Collingwood

[Hu$$ey]

I know it's a bit premature but I was just thinking about the Collingwood forward line and looking as to who we can put on certain players.

One interesting match up that popped up was Walker on Tarrant. Tarrant's always troubled Thornton in the past with his speed and endurance and I wouldn't think he'd be put on him so I was wondering if we would consider putting Tex on Tarrant? And IMO - Why the hell not?

He's got the athleticisim, the leap, the speed, the endurance, perhaps not as much strength but most of Tarrant's marks are on the lead and Walker can more than match him for speed I would think.

So that leaves Rocca, would we put T-Bird on him or Lance? I reckon we should go out to win this game, give T-Bird first crack and chuck Lance forward, try to stretch the defence.

Or maybe we can bring in Livo to tussle with Rocca in those gorilla-type matches, he seems to fare better than Thornton in the body-on-body contests.

The magpies backline is pretty good so we will need as many forward options as we can against them to stretch the defence.

Thoughts?

 

[as0l0]

i'd have Lance on Rocca and I like the idea of Walker on Tarrant...only thing is, that it might drag Walker too close to goal and we will miss some of his drive??

 

[Hu$$ey]

Not really, Tarrant likes to take his marks on long, searching leads, at times he een ends up on the wing and I think that way Walks can more than match it with him. He ain't no slouch that Walker kid

It will just aid his development further and wouldn't we all love to see him succeed on Tarrant.

 

[Gumby]

Good thread this.

Collingwood's tall forwards are not only big but are very good. They have Tarrant, Rocca, T.Cloke and Fraser. They will try to stretch us down there as we might well try to do with our forward line.

Walker on Tarrant I don't mind. Similar type CHF to Croad who Walker did a good job on a couple of weeks back. Big job for him but he's up to it and his confidence and form are at an all time high.

Livo on Rocca would be handy but not sure how we squeeze him in. Maybe for De Luca?

When Fraser goes forward I would be inclined to throw McLaren back there as he did a good job down back against Stafford and the Tigers. Could he play on Rocca or T.Cloke?

Maybe Thornton goes to T.Cloke then or even Bannister? It's a shame Hartlett isn't up and running as he would be handy down there.

Much will depend on whether or not Kennedy comes in. If he does, Whitnall will most likely play down back. If he doesn't come in there is a good chance Whitnall will go forward.

Waite, Fisher, Fevola all forward with say Kennedy if fit.

Thornton, Walker, Whitnall and Saddington down back. McLaren goes back when Fraser is there.

Walker - Tarrant
Saddington - Rocca
Thornton - T.Cloke
McLaren - Fraser

Rocca has been playing deep in their forward line lately so don't know if Whitnall is the man to go with him. Maybe Saddington? Wouldn't mind seeing Bannister given a job on Tarrant or T.Cloke if needed. Probably would suit him. has good speed and strength and has excellent endurance.

I think Whitnall could even play on T.Cloke as he might try to expose the young Pie forward.

That leaves us with Waite, Fisher and Fevola up forward. Throw one of Whitnall, De Luca or Kennedy in there also and the Pies will be stretched. They have Presti who's in good form, Clement to take any size forward and mgith go with Waite or Fisher. If Whitnall plays forward he may go with him. Also, Wakelin and Maxwell can play down back for the Pies so it's quite even in those respects.

I think it will be a battle of the forward lines and much will depend on the clearances and midfield run.

Another dozier. Who will play on Buckley? Bannister wouldn't be a bad choice, ideal for the midfield and when Buck's goes forward.

 

[Lajon]

Another dozier. Who will play on Buckley? Bannister wouldn't be a bad choice, ideal for the midfield and when Buck's goes forward.

He should definitely be our first selection. Has the endurance, the marking ability and the strength to go with Buckley.

 

[mediumsizered]

Good thread this.

Collingwood's tall forwards are not only big but are very good. They have Tarrant, Rocca, T.Cloke and Fraser. They will try to stretch us down there as we might well try to do with our forward line.

Walker on Tarrant I don't mind. Similar type CHF to Croad who Walker did a good job on a couple of weeks back. Big job for him but he's up to it and his confidence and form are at an all time high.

Livo on Rocca would be handy but not sure how we squeeze him in. Maybe for De Luca?

When Fraser goes forward I would be inclined to throw McLaren back there as he did a good job down back against Stafford and the Tigers. Could he play on Rocca or T.Cloke?

Maybe Thornton goes to T.Cloke then or even Bannister? It's a shame Hartlett isn't up and running as he would be handy down there.

Much will depend on whether or not Kennedy comes in. If he does, Whitnall will most likely play down back. If he doesn't come in there is a good chance Whitnall will go forward.

Waite, Fisher, Fevola all forward with say Kennedy if fit.

Thornton, Walker, Whitnall and Saddington down back. McLaren goes back when Fraser is there.

Walker - Tarrant
Saddington - Rocca
Thornton - T.Cloke
McLaren - Fraser

Rocca has been playing deep in their forward line lately so don't know if Whitnall is the man to go with him. Maybe Saddington? Wouldn't mind seeing Bannister given a job on Tarrant or T.Cloke if needed. Probably would suit him. has good speed and strength and has excellent endurance.

I think Whitnall could even play on T.Cloke as he might try to expose the young Pie forward.

That leaves us with Waite, Fisher and Fevola up forward. Throw one of Whitnall, De Luca or Kennedy in there also and the Pies will be stretched. They have Presti who's in good form, Clement to take any size forward and mgith go with Waite or Fisher. If Whitnall plays forward he may go with him. Also, Wakelin and Maxwell can play down back for the Pies so it's quite even in those respects.

I think it will be a battle of the forward lines and much will depend on the clearances and midfield run.

Another dozier. Who will play on Buckley? Bannister wouldn't be a bad choice, ideal for the midfield and when Buck's goes forward.

McGrath did the job in the second match last year and shut him right out of the game after he had totally smashed Thornton.

 

[stokesy]

Pagan won't have the balls too;

1) Play Walker on Tarrant
2) Play Whitnall forward

 

[Kooley]

saddington is a very ordinary unit. he cannot play on rocca or tarrant. please no.

 

[Stakerz]

saddington is a very ordinary unit. he cannot play on rocca or tarrant. please no.

I don't mind the Walker on Tarrant idea, but Saddginton on Rocca?... Rocca would kick 10+.

 

[dids4]

sorry to intrude, but who is 't-bird'?

 

[Silvagnis]

Thornton.

 

[Blues_Man]

Livingstone in to play on Rocca ...he should have been in to play on Richo

 

[Fev0lution]

if we bring the game of the last 2 weeks we will get smashed

 

[iluvparis]

I must say I agree with the Saddington sentiment. First thought was a similar result to Fev's experiment on Gehrig.

 

[Lockyer24]

Saddington usually matched up on Taz when he was at the Swans and did a good job for a few quarters, but quite often Taz broke free and kicked 3-4 goals in a quarter on him through sheer strength. I dare say we would send Tarrant to the goal square and he would exploit Walker for strength there also. Id think Thornton would be your best match up, with Whitnall on Rocca and perhaps Livingstone on Cloke, although not sure how comfortable he is at CHB.

Fraser doesnt really play permanent forward that much, he only really drifts forward on occasions. Buckley will spend perhaps 75% of the game forward, not sure who you will play on him as he too will spend time in the goalsquare as will Didak at time if you send down smaller tagger types.

 

[Silvagnis]

Saddington usually matched up on Taz when he was at the Swans and did a good job for a few quarters, but quite often Taz broke free and kicked 3-4 goals in a quarter on him through sheer strength. I dare say we would send Tarrant to the goal square and he would exploit Walker for strength there also. Id think Thornton would be your best match up, with Whitnall on Rocca and perhaps Livingstone on Cloke, although not sure how comfortable he is at CHB.

Walker did well playing on Croad who is tougher and a more powerful athlete than Tarrant so I think you're off the mark with that comment.

Fraser doesnt really play permanent forward that much, he only really drifts forward on occasions. Buckley will spend perhaps 75% of the game forward, not sure who you will play on him as he too will spend time in the goalsquare as will Didak at time if you send down smaller tagger types.

Bannister or McGrath might get the job on Buckley and I think they have done reasonable job on Buckley in the past. We don't have a McKay down there any more so we don't have much choice other than to go with one of them.

 

[HBF]

We'd have to bring Livingston in this week just so we have enough talls to play on Collingwoods talls, and then this enables us to play Lance forward. We need to go into the game thinking we can win, not to try and contain Collingwood.

My matchups would be:

Walker/Tarrant
Livo/Rocca
T-Bird/T.Cloke
McLaren/Fraser

We also need to be mindful of Didak, who is in very good form at the minute. Perhaps we could use Bannister on Didak, and bring McGrath in to do a job on Buckley.

 

[Blue70]

This ins and outs this week will be:

Out - DeLuca, Bentick (possible)

In - Kennedy, Wiggins (possible - if Bentick is dropped)

The team will line up as follows:

FB: Walker Thornton Saddington

HB: Bannister Whitnall Lappin

CN: Houlihan Stevens Carrazzo

HF: Fisher Waite Simpson

FF: Betts Fevola Murphy

Ruck: French, Kouta, Scotland

Int: McLaren, Russell, Bentick/wiggins, Kennedy

 

[mediumsizered]

This ins and outs this week will be:

Out - DeLuca, Bentick (possible)

In - Kennedy, Wiggins (possible - if Bentick is dropped)

The team will line up as follows:

FB: Walker Thornton Saddington

HB: Bannister Whitnall Lappin

CN: Houlihan Stevens Carrazzo

HF: Fisher Waite Simpson

FF: Betts Fevola Murphy

Ruck: French, Kouta, Scotland

Int: McLaren, Russell, Bentick/wiggins, Kennedy

I can't see Bentick being dropped. His 34 disposal game against Collingwood late last season will ensure he stays in the side for this game.

 

[pumped]

Would much prefer to try Saddington on Rocca than Livo. Have not seen anything as yet to suggest Saddington is a hack. Whitnall should play up forward and only go down back when he doesn't have to man up on a gun opposition forward. Lance is creative and should not be expected to be a blanketing stopper on players like Rocca, Richo and Croad.

 

[Blues_Man]

Would much prefer to try Saddington on Rocca than Livo. Have not seen anything as yet to suggest Saddington is a hack. Whitnall should play up forward and only go down back when he doesn't have to man up on a gun opposition forward. Lance is creative and should not be expected to be a blanketing stopper on players like Rocca, Richo and Croad.

Saddington does not have the body size to play on Sav ..you saw last week how small he looked compared to Richo ...playing saddington on Rocca would see him kick 7 + goals and us get an absolute thumping ....Saddington is yet to show enough to even retain his spot in the team .

 

[lenny&carl]

 

[SurreyBlue]

Walker vs Buckley
Bannister vs Tarrant
Thornton vs T.Cloke
Livingston vs Rocca
Saddington vs Fraser
Carrazzo vs Davis

Carrazzo Livingston Saddington
Walker Thornton Bannister
Lappin Scotland Simpson
Houlihan Whitnall Waite
Fisher Fevola Betts
French Koutoufides Stevens
McLaren Bentick Murphy Russell

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

My matchups would be:

Walker/Tarrant
Livo/Rocca
T-Bird/T.Cloke
McLaren/Fraser

That's probably the best set of matchups, but with Walker on Tarrant, Tarrant would drop right back to the goalsquare to just try and get him one out - Tarrant has significantly more strength than Rocca.

I was just coming over here to ask about this though.

In case anyone was wondering, the lineups you might expect to see on your forwards would be:

Fevola - James Clement. Presti is a possibility, but I think Clement will get the job. If Whitnall plays back, then I'd expect Presti to get this job.

Whitnall - If played forward, I'd expect Presti to get him.

Waite - I'm hoping to see Nick Maxwell given the job, even if he runs through the midfield. If Waite starts really performing, I could see Maxwell moved to Fisher, Clement to Waite and O'Brien the big job on Fev.

Fisher - Harry O'Brien will probably get him. He more than matches him physically, so it will come down to whether Fisher can outsmart him. There's a possibility of a switch between him and Maxwell.

Betts - Tarkyn Lockyer's a good chance, but Heath Shaw might get the job.

 

[Dazman]

Walker vs Buckley
Bannister vs Tarrant
Thornton vs T.Cloke
Livingston vs Rocca
Saddington vs Fraser
Carrazzo vs Davis

Carrazzo Livingston Saddington
Walker Thornton Bannister
Lappin Scotland Simpson
Houlihan Whitnall Waite
Fisher Fevola Betts
French Koutoufides Stevens
McLaren Bentick Murphy Russell