Mick Mansfield's time at Carlton - Comments?

[James88]

Interested in people's thoughts on Mick Mansfield's career at Carlton (2000-2002).

I thought he was serviceable and had a good season in 2001. I thought he was a gun player at Geelong and he was past his best when he was traded to the Blues after his indifferent 1999 season.

 

[thylacine60]

 

[SayWhatAgain]

I thought he was OK. I don't really remember much about his career at Carlton.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Was shit.

 

[thylacine60]

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=Michael+Mansfield

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Was shit.

My thoughts exactly, just another example of how poor we were at draft/trade time.

 

[AceAndy]

Was shit.

Don't recall him playing that well for us so I think SOAP's assessment is on the money.

 

[thylacine60]

Was shit.

Geez, that sort of description of past and present player's annoys me. You're better than that SOAPman!

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Geez, that sort of description of past and present player's annoys me. You're better than that SOAPman!

I think we tend to mark under-performing ring-ins harsher than those failures we drafted as teenagers. We always hold out hope for the 'talent' that we've nurtured, but can be far quicker to judge experienced players who haven't always identified as 'Carlton people' (Andrew Collins a mighty and notable exception).

Mansfield was well past it when he arrived at Carlton and I used to hate watching him play for us, really offered us nothing. But I agree, it is wrong to denigrate past Carlton players like I did (Cain Ackland obviously notwithstanding).

 

[thylacine60]

I seem to remember him with his head swathed in bandages quite a bit. I guess they can't all turn out like Hick-hick-hick...

 

[AlecDuncan]

He was a whipping boy from early on, and definitely wasn't the player we remembered from the mid-nineties, but he was never as bad as the haters made out. His kicking was shot by the time he got to us - probably because of the knee. Didn't shirk, and had moments of brilliance, but like a lot on the list in those days was a list clogger.

By the end he looked like a man half-way across Bass Strait who'd been sold a soap canoe. But then, so did everyone else.

And as Thy says, we gave up Chappy for him.

 

[Aphrodite]

No comment!!

 

[gbatman]

Played some reasonable footy then was gone, past his prime. As you know Geelong drafted Chapman with the pick we gave them, that doesn't mean we would have drafted Chapman, with our drafting at the time we probably wouldn't have. Sums up Both Geelong and our list management at the time pretty well.

We were trying to top up to have a go at a flag, we got close but we were a one man band too heavily reliant on one mega star (Kouta) and when he went down so did Carlton.

 

[HBF]

Arguably one of our worst trades ever. Hack!

 

[Dramoth]

I think that he would have to rate as the #3 worst trade ever... by a distance to the other two Micks... Martyn (#1) and Mcguane...

 

[agro]

Brad Pearce touched him up in the 1995 Grand Final, so he shouldn't even have been recruited under the "played well against us so let's recruit him" criteria.

He was a waste of space, had an atrocious "snap hook" kick under pressure, and as accurately pointed out above, Geelong used the pick we gave them for Paul Chapman, not that we would have been smart enough to draft him anyway.

 

[Monkey King]

It was always a poor choice IMO. They were drafting a guy who's best football was played probably five earlier and his rebound kicks were always a bit too up & under for my liking. The trade kinda typified what was wrong with the way the Blues went about recruitment at the time.

 

[Bronze]

Played his best game for Carlton in the 1995 Grand Final.

 

[juzza316]

Hope no-one starts a Stephen O'Reilly time at Carlton thread

 

[serenityNow]

Worst trade........ serviceable my ass

Maybe this thread was started by Mick himself reflecting back on his career and looking for a few kinds words or something????..........sorry pal



Maybe a Mick Martyn's time at Carlton thread will be next................

 

[Wickzki]

Interested in people's thoughts on Mick Mansfield's career at Carlton (2000-2002).

I thought he was serviceable and had a good season in 2001. I thought he was a gun player at Geelong and he was past his best when he was traded to the Blues after his indifferent 1999 season.

 

[Dramoth]

Worst trade........ serviceable my ass

Maybe this thread was started by Mick himself reflecting back on his career and looking for a few kinds words or something????..........sorry pal



Maybe a Mick Martyn's time at Carlton thread will be next................

No... I will track down and kill in the most horrible manner possible the person who starts a Mick Martyn's time at Carlton thread... and I suspect that I wouldnt be alone in doing that.

 

[BlueTongue]

Would rather talk about Hickmont

 

[beowulf]

Would rather talk about Hickmont

We got much better value out of Hickmott, no doubt of that. Hickey was an inspired pick, who may have slowly lost it physically, but who continued to give and give and give with his guts and commitment.

However, Mansfield wasn't our worst pickup. I am old enough to remember champions like Peter Bedford running around in our 2nds because he waited too long to join a team that could reach finals. It was embarrassing to see a guy who had been so good running around on good money in our 2nds. I am sure we were seduced by his name and history, but by the time he got to us he was a physical wreck.

As for Mansfield, he was serviceable. At the time our mantra was 'mature bodies', and we found one who was out of favour at Geelong. When he came to us he changed his game significantly, becoming a far more defensive player. He had lost that burst of pace and the spring that had made him so effective as an attacking weapon at Geelong.
To be honest, we did not do our due diligence in his case or a number of others at that time. Stephen O'Reilly is the perfect example: his back and hamstrings were shot. He was looking for a final payday as he knew his body was shot. We were stupid enough to select on what he had done years earlier, not whaat he had done in the previous season or so.
He was never value for money.
Mansfield was a lot closer to being worth what we were paying him, although we paid overs as far as draft choices went. We should have waited for him to be delisted by Geelong and picked him up cheaply: he was definitely on the outer there and may well have been flicked because he wanted more money than they were willing to pay.
In those days we really lost the plot. I cannot believe we wasted a 1st round pick on Peter Bubner, who was never going to come over. I cannot believe we traded our way out of a couple of drafts almost entirely. I am glad we were so good at finding gems at the bottom of the draft, but we had to: we were so incredibly wasteful in the first 2 or 3 rounds.

 

[Aphrodite]

Hope no-one starts a Stephen O'Reilly time at Carlton thread

Maybe a Mick Martyn's time at Carlton thread will be next................

Not on my watch!!