Moloney

[Tenacious Kane]

Would have been top 10 by the end of 2005

Absolute tripe.

Brent Moloney is a good solid footballer, but there is no chance he had enough improvement in him to surpass guys like Kelly, Tenace, Corey and Bartel in terms of performance.

Just wasn't going to happen.

The hype surrounding Moloney since being traded is hilarious. Before his name was thrown up most considered him a promising young player who might go on and be a solid contributor, as soon as he gets traded he's some future champion.

Like i said, hilarious.

 

[JUBJUB]

Then why was he traded?

I think people overrated him to be honest. He has a lovely long kick which will be missed but Koula is an improving long kick as well and he certainly made an impact late in the season. Moloney has the long kick and nothing else. He struggles to hit targets with short kicks and is a defender's dream with those long bombs to the forward line.

I'm with Catman on this.He does have a great long kick,but he can't get away with doing that every time he gets the ball.His defensive skills do need a massive improvement.Just look at his first quarter against North when he was on Wells.

He was in our best 25 for 2004,but I doubt he would've been in our best 25 by the end of 2005.

He is probably easier to replace than a player like Tenace.
Good luck to him at Melbourne

 

[ablett factor]

On theother side of things if you look at the situation in business terms, which football is we have done very well. Effectively we traded pick 5(i think) in the pre season draft along with pick 16 for a past all australian key position forward who is only 24 years old. I loved moloney but really we have done very well.

 

[nananana catman]

People may think Moloney doesnt have a lot of scope for improvement (which given the quality of some of his performances may not be needed, if he were to play to his absolute best week in week out hed be sublime) But surely hes got to be a fair way ahead of Kolourioutious. Koula played some good games against ordinary opposition and has been around a lot longer than Moloney, even though id say Moloneys played more games.

Anyway,yes Moloney wouldve been in our best 22 and personally id put him a fair way ahead of Koula.

 

[nananana catman]

Agreed, I don't think Melbourne would have had any problems with taking Koula, he's certainly as good as Moloney and if Moloney had'v'e had the opportunity to stay we could have seen the two of them warring for a spot. Y'know, if Koula didn't take it outright.

Cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but thats utter rubbish. If it were true Moloney would still be at Geelong now, and Kolourioutious (i spell it different each time) would be playing for Melbourne.

 

[*koulagirl]

Cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but thats utter rubbish. If it were true Moloney would still be at Geelong now, and Kolourioutious (i spell it different each time) would be playing for Melbourne.

You actually spelt Koulouriotis identically incorrectly in consecutive posts.

I do hold the opinion that Koula is better than Moloney. You may have noticed that they pretty much shared a wing position at the end of the season and it is my opinion based on that that Koula did better there. At that time. When it counted.

You're saying that if I'm right Paul would have been traded? Maybe. We don't know. But Brent was and we have to live with that.

 

[nananana catman]

You actually spelt Koulouriotis identically incorrectly in consecutive posts.

Hehe sorry, ill have to practice in the off-season

I do hold the opinion that Koula is better than Moloney. You may have noticed that they pretty much shared a wing position at the end of the season and it is my opinion based on that that Koula did better there. At that time. When it counted.

If you go by the games when it counted then really they both failed. They were both ordinary in the finals, but at times during the year Moloney was really able to take the game by the scruff of the neck and play a ripper. Take the Fremantle game early in the year. Although we lost he played a smashing 3rd term and got us right back into the game.

The Port Adelaide game he was also sensational and again, although we lost was probably our best player.

I cant see Koula being anything better than a fringe player. There's nothing about him that makes you take notice or puts him ahead of any midfielders at Geelong. Thats why port adelaide got rid of him and thats why I think hell really struggle to get a regular spot in the Geelong 22. I hope for his,yours, and Geelongs sake that he has a great year and shows us why he was a first round draft pick, that would be great for us, but unfortunately I just cant see it happening.

 

[*koulagirl]

If you go by the games when it counted then really they both failed. They were both ordinary in the finals, but at times during the year Moloney was really able to take the game by the scruff of the neck and play a ripper. Take the Fremantle game early in the year. Although we lost he played a smashing 3rd term and got us right back into the game.

Koula was seen to be doing his bit in the latter part of the season, he really stepped up in the Freo game in r20. And, to be fair, he didn't get much match time in the finals - something which mystified me as it's not like he couldn't have played more.

I cant see Koula being anything better than a fringe player. There's nothing about him that makes you take notice or puts him ahead of any midfielders at Geelong. Thats why port adelaide got rid of him and thats why I think hell really struggle to get a regular spot in the Geelong 22. I hope for his,yours, and Geelongs sake that he has a great year and shows us why he was a first round draft pick, that would be great for us, but unfortunately I just cant see it happening.

I can see it. It's so close sometimes I wonder why he doesn't just play like I've seen him play before. His time at Port kinda dulled that spark but I know it's still there, it's just going to take him actually bringing that back out for him to really sparkle.

 

[nananana catman]

Koula was seen to be doing his bit in the latter part of the season, he really stepped up in the Freo game in r20. And, to be fair, he didn't get much match time in the finals.

The description of a fringe player.... I agree, he played well enough to hold his spot, but not much beyond that really.

It's so close sometimes I wonder why he doesn't just play like I've seen him play before.

Because hes now playing in the AFL and not the SANFL.

 

[skywalk750]

Hehe sorry, ill have to practice in the off-season


If you go by the games when it counted then really they both failed. They were both ordinary in the finals, but at times during the year Moloney was really able to take the game by the scruff of the neck and play a ripper. Take the Fremantle game early in the year. Although we lost he played a smashing 3rd term and got us right back into the game.

The Port Adelaide game he was also sensational and again, although we lost was probably our best player.

I cant see Koula being anything better than a fringe player. There's nothing about him that makes you take notice or puts him ahead of any midfielders at Geelong. Thats why port adelaide got rid of him and thats why I think hell really struggle to get a regular spot in the Geelong 22. I hope for his,yours, and Geelongs sake that he has a great year and shows us why he was a first round draft pick, that would be great for us, but unfortunately I just cant see it happening.

If he can have an injury free pre-season, get some confidence in respect to his injuries - I think he could become a good player for the cats.

 

[*koulagirl]

The description of a fringe player.... I agree, he played well enough to hold his spot, but not much beyond that really.

If he can play well enough to merely hold his spot in 40 minutes imagine what he could do given a whole match, with more than ten minutes at a stretch.

Because hes now playing in the AFL and not the SANFL.

It's not that. The guernsey is immaterial to his ability.

 

[jmain14]

koulagirl, I sense you are being a little too biost (not sure on spelling) towards your namesake here. I would have to admit that he is a lot better player than I first thought, however the reality is that his 2 best games were against richmond and freo at the latter end of the season. hardly games where we discover who our good players are I would of thought.

 

[dave_4813]

koulagirl, I sense you are being a little too biost (not sure on spelling) towards your namesake here. I would have to admit that he is a lot better player than I first thought, however the reality is that his 2 best games were against richmond and freo at the latter end of the season. hardly games where we discover who our good players are I would of thought.

biast

 

[Akalon]

biast

...
biased

 

[*koulagirl]

koulagirl, I sense you are being a little too biost (not sure on spelling) towards your namesake here. I would have to admit that he is a lot better player than I first thought, however the reality is that his 2 best games were against richmond and freo at the latter end of the season. hardly games where we discover who our good players are I would of thought.

I'm not biased, just more of a optimist regarding Paul's ability. Anyone who can kick straight in the crap conditions the Freo game was played under is worthy of a few compliments, and I honestly unbiasedly believe that he earned his chance at the starting 22 for 2005 with his end-of-season performances. It's not always who the team plays but how the individual goes, and Paul didn't slack off in the easy games, something which I would have thought to count for something.

 

[dave_4813]

...
biased

damn i suck
*head moves back and forward*

 

[JUBJUB]

damn i suck

I don't think anyone will disagree with you on that statement

 

[dave_4813]

I don't think anyone will disagree with you on that staement

i dont care, i have thick skin!

 

[HighRoller]

Just a quick question guys..how do u think he will go at replacing say scotty thompson..? do they play the same way etc...for instance scotts best trait was actually getting the ball which is one thing we lack at the dees...we have a few to many receivers.

 

[GeeCat]

Just a quick question guys..how do u think he will go at replacing say scotty thompson..? do they play the same way etc...for instance scotts best trait was actually getting the ball which is one thing we lack at the dees...we have a few to many receivers.

The only comparison I can make between the two is that both have fairly big bodies.

Thompson always came across to me as an in-and-under player, something Moloney really isn't. Moloney can get his own ball every now and then, but I'd suggest he's better as an outside player running the lines.

He does his best work outside the packs, which technically makes him more a receiver than anything.

 

[WestCat]

Koula was seen to be doing his bit in the latter part of the season, he really stepped up in the Freo game in r20. And, to be fair, he didn't get much match time in the finals - something which mystified me as it's not like he couldn't have played more.



I can see it. It's so close sometimes I wonder why he doesn't just play like I've seen him play before. His time at Port kinda dulled that spark but I know it's still there, it's just going to take him actually bringing that back out for him to really sparkle.

I think he just doesn't quite have enough confidence to play his best yet. He will probably be in the starting 22 at the start of the year and will get 5-8 games to show his worth. It's up to him, if he can do it he has to do it early. Personally I believe he can, he was a first round pick, which means he's got the talent it's just a case of getting it together on the park.

As for the comparison with Moloney. Koula doesn't have the body of Moloney, but you'd say that all of their other assets would be simliar, fast and long kicks. However, Koula appears to think about his game more and is more focussed rather than Moloney who can go looking for some rough stuff. We need smart footballers, as we already have Mooney, Milburn and Scarlett to belt people, so in that sense I think Geelong made the right decision.