multi bet options: yankee, luck 15, goliath etc...

[soho]

ok, so looking at the odds for round 5, there are 8 clear favorites, so thought of putting some money on a multi picking all 8...

bulldogs 1.12
sydney 1.17
brisbane 1.28
st kilda 1.30
collingwood 1.28
hawthorn 1.33
fremantle 1.05
geelong 1.20

looking through some of the multi bet options (im with sportingbet, but i think other online providers have similar options), there is a 'goliath' function, which puts money on all 247 possible multi combinations for all 8 games...

eg.

two leg combos:

bulldogs + sydney
bulldogs + brisbane
bulldogs + st kilda
etc...

three leg combos:

bulldogs + sydney + brisbane
bulldogs + sydney + st kilda...

until finally you end up with a single 8 leg combo...

what are the merits of a goliath style bet?

each team is in 136 combinations, so if you have $1 on every combination and the bulldogs are upset, you instantly lose $136... thats over half your starting outlay ($1 on every combo = $247) but it also means you only collect on the remaining 111 combos...

i havent worked it out for 2 or more teams, but i highly doubt you'd make money if 2 or more teams are upset (especially given that its probably more likely that the higher value teams are going to be upset, and you'll be left collecting on the lower value combos)

can anyone give me anything in support of the systems? does anyone use them as a way of reducing risk? because to me they look like scams, and you may as well play to win and go for broke...

 

[Cuzz09]

ok, so looking at the odds for round 5, there are 8 clear favorites, so thought of putting some money on a multi picking all 8...

bulldogs 1.12
sydney 1.17
brisbane 1.28
st kilda 1.30
collingwood 1.28
hawthorn 1.33
fremantle 1.05
geelong 1.20

Well if you did an 8 leg multi that would be odds of about: $4.67(ish)

IMO.....

*Adelaide will want to give a better account of themselves and Dogs look a bit weary off a 6 day break: Dogs 1-39

*Swans Vs Eagles in the past have been close: Sydney 1-39

*Melbourne have been playing alright and will full of confidence, Lions take a while to get going but are too big: Brisbane 1-39

*Port Vs St.Kilda.... Dont write off Port, may be wet in Adelaide and No Riewoldt could help them... maybe if Port have a line of say +20.5 go for that.

*Coll Vs Ess on ANZAC Day is tradionally close and its predicted rain... Collingwood 1-39.

*Hawks V Roos, In Tassie, Hawks play well there and with Buddy back look better... Rarely thrashing in Tassie so: Hawthorn 1-39

*Freo should bounce back vs tigers but tough a tough one.... Id maybe just go: Fremantle 25+

*Geelong should beat Carlton but at the MCG on a Monday it'll be close for 3 quarters: Cats 1-39

Now that would give ya some good odds I reckon

 

[Schmucta]

ok, so looking at the odds for round 5, there are 8 clear favorites, so thought of putting some money on a multi picking all 8...

bulldogs 1.12
sydney 1.17
brisbane 1.28
st kilda 1.30
collingwood 1.28
hawthorn 1.33
fremantle 1.05
geelong 1.20

looking through some of the multi bet options (im with sportingbet, but i think other online providers have similar options), there is a 'goliath' function, which puts money on all 247 possible multi combinations for all 8 games...

eg.

two leg combos:

bulldogs + sydney
bulldogs + brisbane
bulldogs + st kilda
etc...

three leg combos:

bulldogs + sydney + brisbane
bulldogs + sydney + st kilda...

until finally you end up with a single 8 leg combo...

what are the merits of a goliath style bet?

each team is in 136 combinations, so if you have $1 on every combination and the bulldogs are upset, you instantly lose $136... thats over half your starting outlay ($1 on every combo = $247) but it also means you only collect on the remaining 111 combos...

i havent worked it out for 2 or more teams, but i highly doubt you'd make money if 2 or more teams are upset (especially given that its probably more likely that the higher value teams are going to be upset, and you'll be left collecting on the lower value combos)

can anyone give me anything in support of the systems? does anyone use them as a way of reducing risk? because to me they look like scams, and you may as well play to win and go for broke...

I use them all the time, however I don't use them how they are set up.

What I do is say you have a yankee, 11 bets, involving 4 winners.

Why have the doubles? If two of your 4 winners actually lose you wont be winning much back on the one double so what I do is leave out the doubles. That leaves 5 bets. Say you were going to have a $10 yankee, costing $110, well now you can have a 5 bet yankee version, where you can have 5 x $20 bets or a cost of $100. 4 Trebles and one 5 leg multi. You need three to get a collect, but like I said you wont win much if you dont get atleast three up with a traditional yankee so it wont matter if you lose it all, as when you do hit, you are having double the investment on those winners.

Have done this right up to the goliaths, where I take the bets onvolving legs of 6 winners, 7 winners and the goliath 8 leg winner. You really need most to hit to win with the traditional bets, so it helps you cut down having pointless doubles bets.

My take on things.