Naming Names

[lachy]

Clearly we have major leadership problems at our club. Player we say have sublime skills, are quick are this and that yet strangely never stand up when needed. We have many scapegoats yet there are a few names we need to have a serious look at now to go anywhere in the next couple of years. In no particular order:
Ray
Boyd
Eagleton
Street
Walsh
Giansiracusa
Power
Addison
Akermanis
Baird
Hargrave
Mc Cormack
Mc Dougall
Mc Mahon
Minson
Wight
Skipper
Faulkner

Throw in Darcy and Robins retiring and West and Grant getting close to the end and you can see big question marks over a large portion of the list. These blokes in particular either have not delivered or fail under pressure. there is alot of talk about us doing a Geelong next year. For that to happen all of those not named will need to be at their best not only in form but in leadership, 2nd year players will will need to have a dramatic improvement and half of the above list needs to show some consistent form and leadership.

In essence we are a long way from Geelong and really are closer to Richmond and Carlton than many of the posters here would care to admit.

 

[TedDougChris]

Ok, let's break this list down a little bit first....

Younger Players:

Walsh
Addison
Baird
McCormack
Wight
Skipper
Faulkner

Experienced Players:
Ray
Boyd
Eagleton
Street
Gia
Power
Akermanis
Hargrave
McDougall
McMahon
Minson

(Minson might be in both categories here)

Of the younger brigade, only Skipper and possibly Faulkner have had a few years to demonstrate their ability. Most judges here on BF are split on their merits, but most would say they deserve another shot, in particular if it isn't a stronger depth draft. Most of the other guys have had a bit of bad luck with injuries, or are in very early stages of development. Some have actually shown a bit when they have played... A bit harsh to judge them all so early on....

Of the experienced list, both Aker and McDougall should be excused simply due to the transition from another club. Aker has also been very good on a number of occasions this year.

I cant believe that Boyd and Hargraves are on this list, but anyway.

Eagleton is getting older and will have less of an impact as time goes by. But he should be used solely as a burst player (like Aker) from now on.

Power and Ray have both improved in recent weeks, although I am worried by their lightweight nature to the game. Neither appear to be able to tackle. McMahon has had an off year. Hopefully he can sort things out and get back on track.

Street and Minson are the two interesting ones here. Niether has stepped up as hoped, but what alternatives do we have on our list ??

There is no doubt we haven't progressed as a club, but there have been a few shining lights.

Depending on who is available (or what picks are available), some of the Power/Ray/McMahon type players may be made available for trade, with possibly one or two youngsters who may not get much game time (ie Faulkner).

We need to install a culture of physical hardness and solidarity at the club, who is to say that these guys can't help us to achieve this, with the right approach from the top..... (sorry, very long winded)

 

[SCRAY72]

Simple fact is that due to all the retirements, some blokes will be retained.
You can't have 4 retirements and delist 8 blokes in the one year. Thats too many draft picks especially in a weak draft.

 

[kookadog]

If we turn over 10+ players we'll be looking at pick #1 next year.

Our leadership group needs to be the players in the middle of their careers Gia, Murphy, Hahn, Gilbee, Harris, Hargy etc I'm pretty hopeful these guys can do it.

 

[SOTW 73]

based on what we have seen the past 2 months we will give the #1 draft pick a shake ragardless of what we do

 

[Bulldog Banana]

If we turn over 10+ players we'll be looking at pick #1 next year.

Our leadership group needs to be the players in the middle of their careers Gia, Murphy, Hahn, Gilbee, Harris, Hargy etc I'm pretty hopeful these guys can do it.

Hopefully these guys can learn something called "desperation" and learn how to fight out matches on the field.

Our club pays them a good salary, and has given them the opportunity to do something most of us would give our left one for.

Big bodies, small bodies, tall, short whatever......you can still tell if blokes are fighting the game out or not. The past 6 weeks we have seen very little of this.

Downhill skiers & frontrunners seem to be correct definition of a majority of our list.

 

[Knackers]

Hopefully these guys can learn something called "desperation" and learn how to fight out matches on the field.

Our club pays them a good salary, and has given them the opportunity to do something most of us would give our left one for.

Big bodies, small bodies, tall, short whatever......you can still tell if blokes are fighting the game out or not. The past 6 weeks we have seen very little of this.

Downhill skiers & frontrunners seem to be correct definition of a majority of our list.

Absolutely agree!! All this crap about being too short and too light is merely an excuse for poor skills and lack of desire and intensity.
Being smaller than your opponent doesn't mean that you can't run to a contest or chase or make position or hit a target.

 

[dogupya]

Allow me a few moments of your time, if you will....

I would of thought there were a few bulldogs who were playing for their careers yesterday. Did they stand up, I hear you ask? HA HA

Lets go through them shall we... In particular order of disgust and contempt.

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

Daniel Giansiracusa - Wanna hear a funny joke?? Gia is touted as a future captain of our club and is a great leader amongst the boys. No wonder we have a ship without a sail, if this bloke is leading us then were screwed. A bloke who has played over 100 games who constantly goes missing when the heat is on, an average of 13 odd possesions a game from a premier ball mover, supposedly???? Not good enough pretty boy, I bet Peter jackson won't be making that mistake again. If they make you captain, I will never attend another game again, simple as that. You are weak.

Adam Cooney - Overhyped, underacheiving glory hunting, lazy midfielder. Time to step up and start gut running and busting packs. One month of tough footy doesn't exclude the other 18 games of mediocrity

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Peter Street - Self explanitory

Farren Ray - Eat some food and lift some weights find a position!!!!

Wayde Skipper - I just spewed in my mouth

Wil Minson - Woops there it goes all over my shoes

Sam Power - It's Ok Sam, you just trot over to the contest, I'll man your fukcing opponent for you

Jordan mcmahon - May enter the winter Olympics in Downhill Slalom



Never in my life have I witnessed a more insipid and deplorable effort from a so called AFL outfit. Not one player put on a sheppard or a bullock, no one was hurting, there was no scragging or dirty tactics, we just lay there dead and Hawthorn penetrated us over and over again.

EJ would be turning in his grave if he could see what our club has become, so many TV hungry millionaires who believe their own shyte. Nobody prepeared to run both ways, to put the blocks on, to double team to niggle the opposition.

SHOW SOME HURT YOU LITTLE PANSIES!!!!

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

If our Premaddona's had a sceric of the heart that beats through these club legends, we would be in the top 4, no doubt.

Problem is, we have no heart. A pathetic football club that has taken away the only thing our club ever had to show for... And that was Heart.

You can go and get f******* for taking that away you little pretty boy f****, you have no right!!!!!!

Time for pride.

Time to stand together against North and bleed. I want to see blood, I want a line in the sand, I don't care what the consequence. I want scrag for 120 minutes, niggle and dirt... I want to see you bare your teeth and fly in , not fly away. You are a laughing stock at the minute. One last chance to redeem yourselves to not being a total disgrace to that jumper!!

 

[DogsRuleWstNoBul]

Allow me a few moments of your time, if you will....

I would of thought there were a few bulldogs who were playing for their careers yesterday. Did they stand up, I hear you ask? HA HA

Lets go through them shall we... In particular order of disgust and contempt.

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

Daniel Giansiracusa - Wanna hear a funny joke?? Gia is touted as a future captain of our club and is a great leader amongst the boys. No wonder we have a ship without a sail, if this bloke is leading us then were screwed. A bloke who has played over 100 games who constantly goes missing when the heat is on, an average of 13 odd possesions a game from a premier ball mover, supposedly???? Not good enough pretty boy, I bet Peter jackson won't be making that mistake again. If they make you captain, I will never attend another game again, simple as that. You are weak.

Adam Cooney - Overhyped, underacheiving glory hunting, lazy midfielder. Time to step up and start gut running and busting packs. One month of tough footy doesn't exclude the other 18 games of mediocrity

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Peter Street - Self explanitory

Farren Ray - Eat some food and lift some weights find a position!!!!

Wayde Skipper - I just spewed in my mouth

Wil Minson - Woops there it goes all over my shoes

Sam Power - It's Ok Sam, you just trot over to the contest, I'll man your fukcing opponent for you

Jordan mcmahon - May enter the winter Olympics in Downhill Slalom



Never in my life have I witnessed a more insipid and deplorable effort from a so called AFL outfit. Not one player put on a sheppard or a bullock, no one was hurting, there was no scragging or dirty tactics, we just lay there dead and Hawthorn penetrated us over and over again.

EJ would be turning in his grave if he could see what our club has become, so many TV hungry millionaires who believe their own shyte. Nobody prepeared to run both ways, to put the blocks on, to double team to niggle the opposition.

SHOW SOME HURT YOU LITTLE PANSIES!!!!

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

If our Premaddona's had a sceric of the heart that beats through these club legends, we would be in the top 4, no doubt.

Problem is, we have no heart. A pathetic football club that has taken away the only thing our club ever had to show for... And that was Heart.

You can go and get f******* for taking that away you little pretty boy f****, you have no right!!!!!!

Time for pride.

Time to stand together against North and bleed. I want to see blood, I want a line in the sand, I don't care what the consequence. I want scrag for 120 minutes, niggle and dirt... I want to see you bare your teeth and fly in , not fly away. You are a laughing stock at the minute. One last chance to redeem yourselves to not being a total disgrace to that jumper!!

I feel your pain. If Gia is Captain I quit too.

 

[borgy]

I agree, Eagle has to go. Biggest front runner in our team no doubt. He wont go but if we want to move forward we need to get rid of these types of players. When hes on, hes on but when is that? When the teams 6 goals up once every 2 months. Pull your finger out.

 

[Dog 36]

I feel your pain. If Gia is Captain I quit too.

Gia should be taken out of the leadership group on Sunday at approximately 4.45pm.

Leadership is more than patting players butts at training, cooking them dinner and organising their social activities.

 

[lifelike_]

It's safe to say that we're currently the bye.

Not sure what Boyd is doing in there. He isn't the flashiest footballer going around, but he has a crack, unlike a good fifteen others.

Minus Darcy twice in the last two weeks, I haven't seen a solid bump since the Port game.

I hate to think what this club is going to become in the next couple of years once Darcy, Grant and West go, the ones who actually care about the club.

 

[the dog catcher]

Anyone who waxes their legs out...

 

[Gooka]

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

!!

I appreciate your sentiment, but how many finals series/flags did that mob deliver?

All well and good saying you need tough nuts, cause you do, but you need a good mix of skilled players too. We have the skilled guys, now need the hard nuts to fill the gaps.

 

[topdog]

What makes me sick is players like Gia, Power and McMahon at there age, to be the size they are. Weak little girls that can't win a contest and hold a tackle. When you got players like Lewis, Bateman and Hodge similar age group, built like men and gut running, just not good enough, they have been given plently of time, move them on.

Yesterday in the 3 quarter, Power and Hodge went for a contest on the wing, Hodge won the ball, passed to a player and kept running, received the ball again and set up a goal. Power just stood still at the first contest, didn't even try chasing Hodge and this is when the game was still in the balance. Made me sick in the guts when a player can do that, give up on his team. If I was coach I would never play Power again, thats just weak and pathetic.

 

[firstdogonthemoon]

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

while I dont agree - this is a beautifully crafted diatribe

 

[topdog]

Allow me a few moments of your time, if you will....

I would of thought there were a few bulldogs who were playing for their careers yesterday. Did they stand up, I hear you ask? HA HA

Lets go through them shall we... In particular order of disgust and contempt.

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

Daniel Giansiracusa - Wanna hear a funny joke?? Gia is touted as a future captain of our club and is a great leader amongst the boys. No wonder we have a ship without a sail, if this bloke is leading us then were screwed. A bloke who has played over 100 games who constantly goes missing when the heat is on, an average of 13 odd possesions a game from a premier ball mover, supposedly???? Not good enough pretty boy, I bet Peter jackson won't be making that mistake again. If they make you captain, I will never attend another game again, simple as that. You are weak.

Adam Cooney - Overhyped, underacheiving glory hunting, lazy midfielder. Time to step up and start gut running and busting packs. One month of tough footy doesn't exclude the other 18 games of mediocrity

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Peter Street - Self explanitory

Farren Ray - Eat some food and lift some weights find a position!!!!

Wayde Skipper - I just spewed in my mouth

Wil Minson - Woops there it goes all over my shoes

Sam Power - It's Ok Sam, you just trot over to the contest, I'll man your fukcing opponent for you

Jordan mcmahon - May enter the winter Olympics in Downhill Slalom



Never in my life have I witnessed a more insipid and deplorable effort from a so called AFL outfit. Not one player put on a sheppard or a bullock, no one was hurting, there was no scragging or dirty tactics, we just lay there dead and Hawthorn penetrated us over and over again.

EJ would be turning in his grave if he could see what our club has become, so many TV hungry millionaires who believe their own shyte. Nobody prepeared to run both ways, to put the blocks on, to double team to niggle the opposition.

SHOW SOME HURT YOU LITTLE PANSIES!!!!

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

If our Premaddona's had a sceric of the heart that beats through these club legends, we would be in the top 4, no doubt.

Problem is, we have no heart. A pathetic football club that has taken away the only thing our club ever had to show for... And that was Heart.

You can go and get f******* for taking that away you little pretty boy f****, you have no right!!!!!!

Time for pride.

Time to stand together against North and bleed. I want to see blood, I want a line in the sand, I don't care what the consequence. I want scrag for 120 minutes, niggle and dirt... I want to see you bare your teeth and fly in , not fly away. You are a laughing stock at the minute. One last chance to redeem yourselves to not being a total disgrace to that jumper!!

Going by your tone, it'seems to me your holding back a bit, just let it all out!!!

I love it, Spot on.

 

[That's deliberate]

Allow me a few moments of your time, if you will....

I would of thought there were a few bulldogs who were playing for their careers yesterday. Did they stand up, I hear you ask? HA HA

Lets go through them shall we... In particular order of disgust and contempt.

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

Daniel Giansiracusa - Wanna hear a funny joke?? Gia is touted as a future captain of our club and is a great leader amongst the boys. No wonder we have a ship without a sail, if this bloke is leading us then were screwed. A bloke who has played over 100 games who constantly goes missing when the heat is on, an average of 13 odd possesions a game from a premier ball mover, supposedly???? Not good enough pretty boy, I bet Peter jackson won't be making that mistake again. If they make you captain, I will never attend another game again, simple as that. You are weak.

Adam Cooney - Overhyped, underacheiving glory hunting, lazy midfielder. Time to step up and start gut running and busting packs. One month of tough footy doesn't exclude the other 18 games of mediocrity

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Peter Street - Self explanitory

Farren Ray - Eat some food and lift some weights find a position!!!!

Wayde Skipper - I just spewed in my mouth

Wil Minson - Woops there it goes all over my shoes

Sam Power - It's Ok Sam, you just trot over to the contest, I'll man your fukcing opponent for you

Jordan mcmahon - May enter the winter Olympics in Downhill Slalom



Never in my life have I witnessed a more insipid and deplorable effort from a so called AFL outfit. Not one player put on a sheppard or a bullock, no one was hurting, there was no scragging or dirty tactics, we just lay there dead and Hawthorn penetrated us over and over again.

EJ would be turning in his grave if he could see what our club has become, so many TV hungry millionaires who believe their own shyte. Nobody prepeared to run both ways, to put the blocks on, to double team to niggle the opposition.

SHOW SOME HURT YOU LITTLE PANSIES!!!!

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

If our Premaddona's had a sceric of the heart that beats through these club legends, we would be in the top 4, no doubt.

Problem is, we have no heart. A pathetic football club that has taken away the only thing our club ever had to show for... And that was Heart.

You can go and get f******* for taking that away you little pretty boy f****, you have no right!!!!!!

Time for pride.

Time to stand together against North and bleed. I want to see blood, I want a line in the sand, I don't care what the consequence. I want scrag for 120 minutes, niggle and dirt... I want to see you bare your teeth and fly in , not fly away. You are a laughing stock at the minute. One last chance to redeem yourselves to not being a total disgrace to that jumper!!

LMAOROTF.....I have never laughed so much in all my life...well apart from the pathetic performance you dishlickers dished out on Sunday

I love the doggies and they are my second team and yes i have a doggies membership aswell but i must say that this is the funniest most accurate and hilarious analysis i've ever read.

Good on ya mate cheer up doggies will be better next year, there not that bad..

 

[roguless54]

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Only part i found a bit perplexing in the bold italics there.
I remember his first though ....

 

[Benjo]

Allow me a few moments of your time, if you will....

I would of thought there were a few bulldogs who were playing for their careers yesterday. Did they stand up, I hear you ask? HA HA

Lets go through them shall we... In particular order of disgust and contempt.

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

Daniel Giansiracusa - Wanna hear a funny joke?? Gia is touted as a future captain of our club and is a great leader amongst the boys. No wonder we have a ship without a sail, if this bloke is leading us then were screwed. A bloke who has played over 100 games who constantly goes missing when the heat is on, an average of 13 odd possesions a game from a premier ball mover, supposedly???? Not good enough pretty boy, I bet Peter jackson won't be making that mistake again. If they make you captain, I will never attend another game again, simple as that. You are weak.

Adam Cooney - Overhyped, underacheiving glory hunting, lazy midfielder. Time to step up and start gut running and busting packs. One month of tough footy doesn't exclude the other 18 games of mediocrity

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Peter Street - Self explanitory

Farren Ray - Eat some food and lift some weights find a position!!!!

Wayde Skipper - I just spewed in my mouth

Wil Minson - Woops there it goes all over my shoes

Sam Power - It's Ok Sam, you just trot over to the contest, I'll man your fukcing opponent for you

Jordan mcmahon - May enter the winter Olympics in Downhill Slalom



Never in my life have I witnessed a more insipid and deplorable effort from a so called AFL outfit. Not one player put on a sheppard or a bullock, no one was hurting, there was no scragging or dirty tactics, we just lay there dead and Hawthorn penetrated us over and over again.

EJ would be turning in his grave if he could see what our club has become, so many TV hungry millionaires who believe their own shyte. Nobody prepeared to run both ways, to put the blocks on, to double team to niggle the opposition.

SHOW SOME HURT YOU LITTLE PANSIES!!!!

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

If our Premaddona's had a sceric of the heart that beats through these club legends, we would be in the top 4, no doubt.

Problem is, we have no heart. A pathetic football club that has taken away the only thing our club ever had to show for... And that was Heart.

You can go and get f******* for taking that away you little pretty boy f****, you have no right!!!!!!

Time for pride.

Time to stand together against North and bleed. I want to see blood, I want a line in the sand, I don't care what the consequence. I want scrag for 120 minutes, niggle and dirt... I want to see you bare your teeth and fly in , not fly away. You are a laughing stock at the minute. One last chance to redeem yourselves to not being a total disgrace to that jumper!!

Call yourself a supporter. You are a disgrace. Stay at home. We dont want you there.

 

[Pigdog]

Call yourself a supporter. You are a disgrace. Stay at home. We dont want you there.

Fair go cobber, the last 5 or 6 weeks has put our team into perspective. It has shown the pretenders for who they are. The 'experienced' players have not risen to the challenge this year and have been outed, while I do not agree with all the dogupya has posted, he is pretty spot on. It's ok to say we will de-list players like Faulkner, Baird, etc.. at the end of the year, but they are not the problem. Many of the players in dogupya's group are and until they are moved along we will not improve.

If a supporter isn't allowed to show there frustration and out the player's he believes have let the team down he supports then what is this place coming to?

 

[beaser]

What makes me sick is players like Gia, Power and McMahon at there age, to be the size they are. Weak little girls that can't win a contest and hold a tackle. When you got players like Lewis, Bateman and Hodge similar age group, built like men and gut running, just not good enough, they have been given plently of time, move them on.

Yesterday in the 3 quarter, Power and Hodge went for a contest on the wing, Hodge won the ball, passed to a player and kept running, received the ball again and set up a goal. Power just stood still at the first contest, didn't even try chasing Hodge and this is when the game was still in the balance. Made me sick in the guts when a player can do that, give up on his team. If I was coach I would never play Power again, thats just weak and pathetic.

I agree we keep hearing this bullshit about how it takes years to put muscle on and some players take longer than others at the rate we are going these blokes will be on the old age pension by the time they get to physical peak. I was looking at Wight compared to Franklin on Sunday.
Put the cliches in the bin and get em on the wieghts

 

[dogupya]

Call yourself a supporter. You are a disgrace. Stay at home. We dont want you there.

No No No, my friend.... It is not me that is a disgrace, but our playing group that is a disgrace.

In my line of work, if I performed my task with the same enthusiasm as our players have showm, I would of been retrencehed a long time ago and have my license to practice revoked.

Throwing personal insults clearly shows you have no capacity to debate the issue with me. You comment of "we don't need you there".. How old are you, 12??

Who are you, more to the point??


I've supported this club for 22 years and have been a member for every single one of those, I am entitled to expect far greater than what my club has dished up this year. It's totally unacceptable from a professional organisation that has come out and advertised the slogan "bring on the expectation" to be absolutely crushed by the very sound of the word.

If that above quote is all you can offer me in terms of debating the issue, then I would storngly recommend you take yourself over to bay 13 with the kiddies and play in the shallow end.

 

[dogupya]

Fair go cobber, the last 5 or 6 weeks has put our team into perspective. It has shown the pretenders for who they are. The 'experienced' players have not risen to the challenge this year and have been outed, while I do not agree with all the dogupya has posted, he is pretty spot on. It's ok to say we will de-list players like Faulkner, Baird, etc.. at the end of the year, but they are not the problem. Many of the players in dogupya's group are and until they are moved along we will not improve.

If a supporter isn't allowed to show there frustration and out the player's he believes have let the team down he supports then what is this place coming to?

It's cool PD, obviously blind optimism is the only way to support a club.

 

[Benno From Berwick]

Allow me a few moments of your time, if you will....

I would of thought there were a few bulldogs who were playing for their careers yesterday. Did they stand up, I hear you ask? HA HA

Lets go through them shall we... In particular order of disgust and contempt.

Nathan Eagleton - Never in my life have i been unlucky enough to witness the softest, front running reciever the club has ever seen. Not only that, if he's not 50 out shooting for goal, He will turn it over every time lika kid playing under 9's. seriously, how many time can a player be stupid enough to get caught with the ball and cough it up without a yelp... It was enough to give me an abrasion on my hand from punching the seat in fron to me. Goodbye Eagleton, just take your bag, your boots and your monster left foot from outside 50 and take yourself outside of victoria.

Daniel Giansiracusa - Wanna hear a funny joke?? Gia is touted as a future captain of our club and is a great leader amongst the boys. No wonder we have a ship without a sail, if this bloke is leading us then were screwed. A bloke who has played over 100 games who constantly goes missing when the heat is on, an average of 13 odd possesions a game from a premier ball mover, supposedly???? Not good enough pretty boy, I bet Peter jackson won't be making that mistake again. If they make you captain, I will never attend another game again, simple as that. You are weak.

Adam Cooney - Overhyped, underacheiving glory hunting, lazy midfielder. Time to step up and start gut running and busting packs. One month of tough footy doesn't exclude the other 18 games of mediocrity

Jason Akermanis - I hate your guts. You don't belong here. How the hell did you win 3 brownlows, i ve never seen so many kick and hope turnovers, if your the best kick in the league then i know nothing about footy.

Peter Street - Self explanitory

Farren Ray - Eat some food and lift some weights find a position!!!!

Wayde Skipper - I just spewed in my mouth

Wil Minson - Woops there it goes all over my shoes

Sam Power - It's Ok Sam, you just trot over to the contest, I'll man your fukcing opponent for you

Jordan mcmahon - May enter the winter Olympics in Downhill Slalom



Never in my life have I witnessed a more insipid and deplorable effort from a so called AFL outfit. Not one player put on a sheppard or a bullock, no one was hurting, there was no scragging or dirty tactics, we just lay there dead and Hawthorn penetrated us over and over again.

EJ would be turning in his grave if he could see what our club has become, so many TV hungry millionaires who believe their own shyte. Nobody prepeared to run both ways, to put the blocks on, to double team to niggle the opposition.

SHOW SOME HURT YOU LITTLE PANSIES!!!!

Once upon a time we had plyers like

Steve Wallis
Daniel Southourn
Scott Wynd
Crusher Kretiuk
Rick Kennedy
Peter Foster
Libba
Jose
Dimma
Super Mcpherson
The Ice Man

If we didn't win the game at least we won the fight.

If our Premaddona's had a sceric of the heart that beats through these club legends, we would be in the top 4, no doubt.

Problem is, we have no heart. A pathetic football club that has taken away the only thing our club ever had to show for... And that was Heart.

You can go and get f******* for taking that away you little pretty boy f****, you have no right!!!!!!

Time for pride.

Time to stand together against North and bleed. I want to see blood, I want a line in the sand, I don't care what the consequence. I want scrag for 120 minutes, niggle and dirt... I want to see you bare your teeth and fly in , not fly away. You are a laughing stock at the minute. One last chance to redeem yourselves to not being a total disgrace to that jumper!!

I want to buy you a beer! Better buy you a slab.